*** COWBOYS 2016 Season ***

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CSWendt said:

You're assuming a player stays healthy all season and continues to produce late in the year at the same level. BIG IF. I'll take the known over the unknown. Extrapolate all you want, but I too watched every game that season and saw how dominate Murray and that run game was. Zeke is a heck of a player. I just feel what Murray brought in the pass game made the weapons Romo have elite.
Zeke has about 50 fewer receiving yards than DeMarco did that season, with 25 fewer receptions. It's not like Zeke is some slouch at receiving the ball either.
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RossK10 said:

CSWendt said:

You're assuming a player stays healthy all season and continues to produce late in the year at the same level. BIG IF. I'll take the known over the unknown. Extrapolate all you want, but I too watched every game that season and saw how dominate Murray and that run game was. Zeke is a heck of a player. I just feel what Murray brought in the pass game made the weapons Romo have elite.
Zeke has about 50 fewer receiving yards than DeMarco did that season, with 25 fewer receptions. It's not like Zeke is some slouch at receiving the ball either.


get out of here with your facts and such.
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God this thread is insufferable.
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MooreTrucker said:

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FTAggies said:

It's a team sport, romos never had this kinda team talent before
He had it last year.
How so?
Same oline, same WRs, equally good RB, Witten


Yeah. No. Look at the list of injuries last year starting with Romo.
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MooreTrucker said:

PooDoo said:

Azariah said:

FTAggies said:

It's a team sport, romos never had this kinda team talent before
He had it last year.
How so?
Same oline, same WRs, equally good RB, Witten

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Duck Patrol said:

God this thread is insufferable.
Exactly... we are a few days away from our 1st playoff game with the #1 seed. All I want to do is talk Cowboys & Packers. Instead I come here and get to do this:



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Hard to talk about this game because stats & trends don't matter if you run into a HoF QB playing at a HoF level.
If that happens our only hope is Zeke & Dak grinding out several 14+ play scoring drives.
And pray we are scoring TDs instead of FGs.
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TDs instead of FGs will be an absolute key to this game. Penalties in the red zone will be a killer.
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PooDoo said:

Hard to talk about this game because stats & trends don't matter if you run into a HoF QB playing at a HoF level.
If that happens our only hope is Zeke & Dak grinding out several 14+ play scoring drives.
And pray we are scoring TDs instead of FGs.


I'm going to disagree here. Rogers can play at an elite level all he wants, but he can't do that if the GB defense can't get off the field, which I suspect they won't based on the complete one-sidedness of the Dallas O-GB D matchup. Green Bay HAS to win time of possession in this game or they won't win. They had the benefit of playing a completely inept offense in NY, which allowed them to wear that defense down. Once NY lost their slot corner (Cromartie), they were as good as done.

GB had 13 possession against NY, not counting the end of the game. They'll be lucky to get 10 against Dallas with that defense. Dallas' plan will be to force Green Bay into long, methodical drives. The longer the drive takes, the more it benefits Dallas.
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JAggie2007 said:

MooreTrucker said:

PooDoo said:

Azariah said:

FTAggies said:

It's a team sport, romos never had this kinda team talent before
He had it last year.
How so?
Same oline, same WRs, equally good RB, Witten


Well, I don't think that but it's a topic in this thread so I left it alone.
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I drove bus said:

TDs instead of FGs will be an absolute key to this game. Penalties in the red zone will be a killer.
How long do we still have to deal with Doug Free?
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MooreTrucker said:

I drove bus said:

TDs instead of FGs will be an absolute key to this game. Penalties in the red zone will be a killer.
How long do we still have to deal with Doug Free?


This will be big for the Packers. Their RZ% is vastly different without Nelson in the lineup. He is far-and-away their best receiver outside the numbers. His absence will effectively allow Dallas to contract the field.
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Anything longer than 3rd and 6 is a drive killer. Cowboys concert at high percentage under 3rd and 6, and very low over.

That's where penalties kill them.
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Doug Free has played well this year.
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I could see the game going either way. I expect the Packers to sell out to stop Zeke and force Dak to win it. The Cowboys will need to play keep away from Aaron Rodgers. Hopefully the good guys pull it out.
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ce1994 said:

Doug Free has played well this year.
"well" is generous.

he's been serviceable or average imho. not as bad as some people think, but not well either. basically I think he'd start for about 18-20 other teams in the league.

agree with the post a few above mine that TDs Vs FGs is going to be huge here. if there's a team that early on kicks a couple of FGs when they were in the red zone with a prime opportunity to get 6 and settled for 3 then i think that'll come back to bite em in the ass late in the game.

my keys for Dallas:

-Keep Rodgers off the field with our own ball control(duh)
-Protect the ball. If Dallas doesn't turn it over a single time I think they will win.
-Score red zone TDs instead of FGs.
-Man the middle of the field between the hashes (avoid big gaps in coverage) as Rodgers loves those crossing routes, skinny posts, and slants.
-Irving has to have one of his games. We can't have invisible Irving show up. We need menace Irving.
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Anybody know the status of Collins? If healthy does he start over Leary?
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Not to get bogged down in semantics, but starting for 18-20 teams sounds slightly above serviceable or average.
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I'm hoping that getting some of our injured D-Line guys back doesn't hurt us. Our pass rush was pretty steady against Tampa & Detroit... I don't want to minimize guys like Irving, who have played so well, in favor of Crawford or D-Law if Irving is the hot hand.

A good example of this is when Minnesota beat our butts a few years back. Columbo had been hurt at the end of the regular season and his back-up had played pretty well (that may have been Doug Free, can't remember)... but Columbo is "healed" and starts the Vikings game and get's smoked the entire game and Romo runs for his life. Either Columbo wasn't 100% healthy, he was rusty, or the other guy was simply better, but it was a big mistake to play the old starter.
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Either "Columbo" wasn't 100% healthy, he was rusty, or the other guy was simply better, but it was a big mistake to play the old starter.
I see what you did there...
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A good example of this is when Minnesota beat our butts a few years back. Columbo had been hurt at the end of the regular season and his back-up had played pretty well (that may have been Doug Free, can't remember)... but Columbo is "healed" and starts the Vikings game and get's smoked the entire game and Romo runs for his life. Either Columbo wasn't 100% healthy, he was rusty, or the other guy was simply better, but it was a big mistake to play the old starter.

Logical fallicy.

There is no evidence that the backup would've fared any better.
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Dan 07 said:

Not to get bogged down in semantics, but starting for 18-20 teams sounds slightly above serviceable or average.
ya, i just felt the word "well" was too good for him but you're right.
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Unthought Known said:

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A good example of this is when Minnesota beat our butts a few years back. Columbo had been hurt at the end of the regular season and his back-up had played pretty well (that may have been Doug Free, can't remember)... but Columbo is "healed" and starts the Vikings game and get's smoked the entire game and Romo runs for his life. Either Columbo wasn't 100% healthy, he was rusty, or the other guy was simply better, but it was a big mistake to play the old starter.

Logical fallicy.

There is no evidence that the backup would've fared any better.

Perhaps not, but as I recall, they left Columbo in the entire time. He was getting beat early and often and, as I recall, they never even attempted to let the back-up (that played well when we beat Philly in the 1st round) have a chance.

That's all I'm saying... if we put in Crawford and Co. and they don't produce, let's switch it up. I know it's not exactly the same thing because the D-Line rotates, but you get what I'm saying.




And no, I was in no way implying anything about Romo... I'm hoping that conversation dies!
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If Romo comes in for an injured Dak and leads the Cowboys to a huge comeback victory, could the sports world handle it?
Its these kind of hypotheticals that make this thread insufferable. You are the worst.
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Was listening to sports talk and reminded that Sean Lee was hurt in 2014 when the Cowboys won the division and actually won a playoff game.

That dude is going to be so hyped!!!!!!

Justin Durant is also practicing and should be ready to go. That's going to be very nice too because we know he will be solid and won't be fooled by anything on the field (compared to Wilson who's done a decent job in his absence).
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jr15aggie said:

Unthought Known said:

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A good example of this is when Minnesota beat our butts a few years back. Columbo had been hurt at the end of the regular season and his back-up had played pretty well (that may have been Doug Free, can't remember)... but Columbo is "healed" and starts the Vikings game and get's smoked the entire game and Romo runs for his life. Either Columbo wasn't 100% healthy, he was rusty, or the other guy was simply better, but it was a big mistake to play the old starter.

Logical fallicy.

There is no evidence that the backup would've fared any better.

Perhaps not, but as I recall, they left Columbo in the entire time. He was getting beat early and often and, as I recall, they never even attempted to let the back-up (that played well when we beat Philly in the 1st round) have a chance.

That's all I'm saying... if we put in Dak in and he doesn't produce, let's switch it up.



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BassCowboy33 said:

PooDoo said:

Hard to talk about this game because stats & trends don't matter if you run into a HoF QB playing at a HoF level.
If that happens our only hope is Zeke & Dak grinding out several 14+ play scoring drives.
And pray we are scoring TDs instead of FGs.


I'm going to disagree here. Rogers can play at an elite level all he wants, but he can't do that if the GB defense can't get off the field, which I suspect they won't based on the complete one-sidedness of the Dallas O-GB D matchup. Green Bay HAS to win time of possession in this game or they won't win. They had the benefit of playing a completely inept offense in NY, which allowed them to wear that defense down. Once NY lost their slot corner (Cromartie), they were as good as done.

GB had 13 possession against NY, not counting the end of the game. They'll be lucky to get 10 against Dallas with that defense. Dallas' plan will be to force Green Bay into long, methodical drives. The longer the drive takes, the more it benefits Dallas.
Which point are you disagreeing with? It seems like you are saying the same thing but with more words.
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BowSowy said:


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If Romo comes in for an injured Dak and leads the Cowboys to a huge comeback victory, could the sports world handle it?
Its these kind of hypotheticals that make this thread insufferable. You are the worst.

Are you kidding me? Go look at the post and see what icon I used. It was all in good fun and kind of making a point of how ridiculous all the talk is.
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PooDoo said:

BassCowboy33 said:

PooDoo said:

Hard to talk about this game because stats & trends don't matter if you run into a HoF QB playing at a HoF level.
If that happens our only hope is Zeke & Dak grinding out several 14+ play scoring drives.
And pray we are scoring TDs instead of FGs.


I'm going to disagree here. Rogers can play at an elite level all he wants, but he can't do that if the GB defense can't get off the field, which I suspect they won't based on the complete one-sidedness of the Dallas O-GB D matchup. Green Bay HAS to win time of possession in this game or they won't win. They had the benefit of playing a completely inept offense in NY, which allowed them to wear that defense down. Once NY lost their slot corner (Cromartie), they were as good as done.

GB had 13 possession against NY, not counting the end of the game. They'll be lucky to get 10 against Dallas with that defense. Dallas' plan will be to force Green Bay into long, methodical drives. The longer the drive takes, the more it benefits Dallas.
Which point are you disagreeing with? It seems like you are saying the same thing but with more words.


I believe that stats and trends matter no matter how well Rodgers plays.
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Dan 07 said:

Anybody know the status of Collins? If healthy does he start over Leary?
I believe the plan is for Collins to back up Leary. My source is a bleacher report update a few days ago tho, so take it for what you will.

I think it's the right call. Leary has played fantastic this season. Starting a player coming off injury for almost the entire season to replace a veteran player performing at a higher level than Collins was when playing seems like it would be a poor decision.
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Honestly thought the line got better with Leary at guard. I would have a Collins be his backup, and maybe look at Collins at RT next season. I know he played that at LSU. Free seems to be the weakest link of the o-line
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i think Collins is the backup for the remainder of the year. thats pretty much been determined i think.
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Lol okay dude. No reason to get so mad when someone calls you out for your bull*****
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BowSowy said:

Lol okay dude. No reason to get so mad when someone calls you out for your bull*****


I was making a joke.
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