*****Official Texas Rangers 2021 Season Thread*****

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DallasAg 94
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DallasAg 94 said:

You put positional players like Brock Holt out there.


By far our best pitcher

0.00 ERA
1.00 WHIP
10/6 pitches/strikes

Sign him to a long term contract
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According to the MLB app the Rangers currently have the 25th ranked ERA in the MLB. Orioles are dead last. Essentially a 1 run difference between us and them. I firmly believe we will make that up given the pitching rotation. Who is our best pitcher right now? Allard?
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None of our projected starters for the next 3 games have ERAs below 5.00. Closest is Allard and he's 2-10
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jtstanley4621 said:

None of our projected starters for the next 3 games have ERAs below 5.00. Closest is Allard and he's 2-10


Then if you really want to cry, check out the batting averages of the starting 9 that we roll out each night. We are now tannin', Astro style.
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Don't get me wrong, I have fully embraced the tank. This team needs a reset, slash and burn agriculture style
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jtstanley4621 said:

Don't get me wrong, I have fully embraced the tank. This team needs a reset, slash and burn agriculture style
Let's all hope this is just rock bottom and I truly do want to go as low as possible this year. The team needs a massive infusion of young talent and I don't care where it comes from. The draft, overseas, free agency, or trade. I don't give a ***** Improve this damn roster.
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John King to Round Rock on a rehab assignment. Maybe he'll be back soon
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Dane Dunning is 4.07.
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I stand corrected. So only one of our starters has an ERA below 5.
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jtstanley4621 said:

Don't get me wrong, I have fully embraced the tank. This team needs a reset, slash and burn agriculture style


I'm pulling for this too. Just this season though. I'd be fine with o'fer to finish the year. Go get the #1 draft pick and start building through free agency/development the next few years.
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Won't matter. This franchise could have drafted Nolan Ryan and he would have never made it out of Frisco. Our minor league program has never had a clue how to develop talent. We could get 10 #1 overall picks in a row and we'd screw every one of them up.

Good day everyone.
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South Platte said:

Won't matter. This franchise could have drafted Nolan Ryan and he would have never made it out of Frisco. Our minor league program has never had a clue how to develop talent. We could get 10 #1 overall picks in a row and we'd screw every one of them up.

Good day everyone.
You seem to think the Rangers are the worst franchise of all time at any level. Why bother following?
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Somebody thought we were going to compete next year?
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Quincey P. Morris said:

Somebody thought we were going to compete next year?
No, it is a bizarre strawman that he has built.
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What players? You harp on how all we have is 800 versions of the same guy but expected we'd sort players out and start competing? Even had Gallo and Gibson not been traded you're still not coming close to competitive. You seem to have us alternately with a terrible farm system but only a couple of players away from competing. Nothing about that was ever realistic.
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What happens if we have $200 million payroll next season? Are we competing then?

Why don't we stop acting like we know what JD and Young are going to do in the offseason, and maybe discuss who the potential FA are this upcoming offseason, and see if how/if they could be a fit on this roster moving forward. We picked up pieces in the draft and at the trade deadline that could be contributors soon, and our farm system is showing some promise. Let's fill in the blanks.
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jtstanley4621 said:

South Platte said:

Won't matter. This franchise could have drafted Nolan Ryan and he would have never made it out of Frisco. Our minor league program has never had a clue how to develop talent. We could get 10 #1 overall picks in a row and we'd screw every one of them up.

Good day everyone.
You seem to think the Rangers are the worst franchise of all time at any level. Why bother following?
It's called poisoning the well. If I can get enough people mad at the franchise, maybe they will stop going and stop supporting the franchise, causing the owner to lose money and be forced to sell to someone who will hopefully clean house.

Just doing my part.
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Mr Gigem said:

What happens if we have $200 million payroll next season? Are we competing then?

Why don't we stop acting like we know what JD and Young are going to do in the offseason, and maybe discuss who the potential FA are this upcoming offseason, and see if how/if they could be a fit on this roster moving forward. We picked up pieces in the draft and at the trade deadline that could be contributors soon, and our farm system is showing some promise. Let's fill in the blanks.
Who the hell is going to sign a FA contract to play for us? In the 50 year history of the Texas Rangers we've signed a 42 year old Nolan Ryan, Colby Lewis, and Wetteland. Those are our big splashes for pitching free agents. Beltre was nice - - we were coming off a WS appearance. A-Rod, Will Clark. After that we got Hunter Pence.

Good free agents don't sign with teams with 5 straight miserable seasons. Good free agents don't even sign with the Houston Astros after the incredible run they've been on.
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I hate to sound like a broken record, but the only thing that looks reasonable right now is to sell the team. Not sure why Mr. Davis and Mr. Simpson would want to wade through a rebuild. They're positioned perfectly to sell right now.

EDIT: Heck, Ray Davis is now 80. Bob Simpson is 73.
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Ray Davis is super secretive but Bob Simpson talks occasionally - especially about his biggest passion, coin collecting. And it always seemed Davis was along for the ride of a good investment - Simpson was the one who really wanted the team.

What I found to be an interesting quote from an article last year - he was talking about coins, but it can be any possession.

https://intelligentcollector.com/bob-simpsons-sweet-spot/

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Yeah. It's true not only with collections but possessions in general. There's a cycle you go through in life, which is: When you're younger, your perspective is infinity and you're immortal, and so you're an accumulator. At some point, it goes the other way, where you think of yourself more as a steward, and then what's the ultimate resolution of this asset. Should I share with other collectors? Leave it to my kids? What am I going to do?

We tend to over-clutter our lives and get beyond our capacity to appreciate what we have. I'm 72, so you reach the age where you're thinking about it differently. You're more aware that you were the custodian.
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Whoever we try to court this offseason, we have to do a really good job of explaining that we won't be a playoff baseball team in 2022, but we will be competitive. The window opens 2023.
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I've heard several of the guys who cover the Rangers say that '23 is the target season for a return to truly competing for a division title. A couple even tossed out the notion that as bad as '21 has been, '22 could be equally bad or worse.

That's what I'm expecting. I think that the Rangers will be "active" in free-agency this postseason (to use a JD expression), but that it will be the type of signings that we've seen far too many of. Players coming off of injuries, guys who had one really good season sandwiched in between several mediocre to bad ones, etc. In other words, players more like Jordan Lyles than Max Scherzer.

My best case scenario is that the team is sold during this off-season, which would give a new owner/ownership group a season to acclimate and get their own plan in place moving forward.
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This was my post on 7/30

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We may not "compete" in 2022, but I don't see that as a reason why we couldn't be aggressive in FA this offseason. Especially if we think 2023 is the year the window opens
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@DallasAg also what's up with you deleting all of your old posts. I know mentioned before that you want to limit you social footprint, but you are deleting posts after like 24 hours? Seems odd
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I've seen one poster disagree with spending in FA, and that poster is a cancer to this thread

I don't think anyone would disagree with spending on FA if it meant it gave your team a chance to compete sooner rather than later
 
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