Oh I agree. I mean it could be way less than we got for Lynn.
Keep in mind Lynn was one full year, not a year and a half. And Lynn did not pitch as well last year as Gibson is pitching this year. Lynn was a 3.32 ERA guy last year with a 3.1 K/BB ratio. Gibson is 2.00 ERA with a similar K/BB ratio. Gibson leads the AL in ERA.Schall 02 said:
I'd think more than slightly less. Lynn had multiple years of success. That is, less risk for the acquiring team.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lynnla01.shtml
You definitely have the right to be skeptical. In the back of my mind, I am too. I was disappointed with what we got for Darvish so I'm probably going to be disappointed with the return on Gibson.rbtexan said:Again, and I can't emphasize this enough:Schall 02 said:
I'd think more than slightly less. Lynn had multiple years of success. That is, less risk for the acquiring team.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lynnla01.shtml
There wasn't a potential work stoppage looming when Lynn was traded. There is now. Because of that, I think that trade-deadline players will have less value this season than they would in typical years.
I could be wrong, and hope I am, but I truly don't believe you'll see Gibson, Kennedy, Gallo, or any other player we might trade, pull in the type of return that we would get in any other year. One year post-covid, plus the CBA uncertainty...doesn't bode well. Again, just my opinion.
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6) Kumar Rocker will get drafted ahead of Jack Leiter.
Honestly, the top end of this Draft doesn't really lend itself to much in the realm of "bold" predictions, because there are a handful of players who would all be perfectly reasonable selections at No. 1 overall, including both of these prominent Vanderbilt pitchers. But every major mock draft to date -- in line with industry consensus -- has Leiter ahead of Rocker. (The latest mock from MLB Pipeline's Jim Callis has Leiter to the Rangers at No. 2 and Rocker to the Royals at No. 7)
Leiter, though, has an unusual amount of leverage in signing bonus discussions. The biggest household name (because of his famous father and the extensive coverage of his college career), Leiter is a Draft-eligible sophomore who could potentially demand and command above-slot money even if he doesn't go 1-1. And depending on how pre-Draft negotiations go, that leverage could land him lower than some fans expect -- just imagine if it somehow landed him at No. 10 overall, where his dad's Mets would be waiting.
With the Pirates widely expected to go with a prep shortstop (Callis and Jonathan Mayo both have Marcelo Mayer at the top of their mocks), it will be interesting to see where the first college arm lands. Were finances not a factor, Leiter would be the top arm taken. But some evaluators view Rocker as potentially having the higher ceiling and, perhaps, the lower cost.
However it all shakes out, Leiter and Rocker are the most intriguing teammate tandem in the Draft since UCLA's Gerrit Cole and Trevor Bauer both went in the top three a decade ago.
Writer makes some good points. I quoted the ones that pertain to the rangers. Interesting that everyone thinks the team ahead of us will grab a shortstop so Leiter should be there for the taking.Quote:
9) The Cubs will acquire Kyle Gibson.
Right now, evaluators are scrambling to make sense of the effects of the midseason enforcement of the foreign substance rules. Some pitchers who once thrived on high fastballs are suddenly no longer able to execute those pitches quite as convincingly, while sinker-slider guys with command are more valuable than ever.
That makes Gibson a really intriguing trade candidate. He was already having a hugely successful season (his 2.00 ERA and 220 ERA+ both lead the AL), but the environment -- and an affordable salary for 2022 -- adds to his allure.
Lots of teams will be interested in Gibson, but the Cubs are an especially intriguing fit. They are the big-market team most comfortably below the luxury-tax threshold. And though the front office did its darnedest to initiate a transition year with the offseason trade of Yu Darvish, the Cubs have played themselves into contention yet again. Barring a collapse in the next couple weeks, the Cubs need to do right by their clubhouse and get the rotation help needed to ease the pressure on a surprisingly good 'pen and allow the North Siders to advance. Gibson would accomplish just that.
KT 90 said:
FYI: Day game today, Rangers up early 1-0 in the 2nd.
KT 90 said:
WTH is John Hicks??? He just hit a bomb.
(he's a catcher called up to replace an injury Jose Trevino)
gigem1223 said:
Is it any coincidence that Gallo started raking once MLB started enforcing the sticky stuff rules?
The team sure as heck does. They basically predicted it. https://t.co/y3w9WjeIR6
— Jamey Newberg (@NewbergReport) July 1, 2021
vander54 said:gigem1223 said:
Is it any coincidence that Gallo started raking once MLB started enforcing the sticky stuff rules?The team sure as heck does. They basically predicted it. https://t.co/y3w9WjeIR6
— Jamey Newberg (@NewbergReport) July 1, 2021
DallasAg 94 said:Mr Gigem said:
Who are you to decide that they don't plan on competing in 2022?
Someone who can look at a roster and realize regardless what they say... they haven't committed enough to get talent in.
vander54 said:
What date did umpires start checking pitchers for illegal substances?
DallasAg 94 said:Do you think we have the talent to compete next year.wbt5845 said:If Gallo and Gibson are still here Aug. 1, they're going for it next year.DallasAg 94 said:Someone who can look at a roster and realize regardless what they say... they haven't committed enough to get talent in.Mr Gigem said:
Who are you to decide that they don't plan on competing in 2022?
I think we had more talent Dec 7, 2020... than we do now. There is no way JD would be so stupid as to keep Gallo and Gibson. Even if they are on the team Aug 1, there is no chance JD goes for it in 2022.
<<Lynn was traded Dec 8, 2020>>
JD hit on some FA signings... missed on some FA signing. Average off-season at-best. He'll pick up a few good FAs and a few not so good FAs in the off-season.