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Did anybody notice that locke turned into a wolf for a sec when he came out of the tent?

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No.

No one.

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So, did John join a cult? Or do you think that was just an innocent commune-type place?

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Either way, that hitchiker is a goner.

I agree. Figured as much when he made the comment about bad things happening to those around him.

Locke is a hippie?

maybe he gets shot in the back and get paralyzed?

We don't know how Locke got paralyzed, do we?

what happened before he was about to go into the cave my tv cut out for the last 10 min. I think he had a flash back. what was it?

damn the previews look tight!!

That was a great episode and DAMN, next week looks intense!

I think thats the flashback where they learned the hitchhiker was a cop.

Locke showed the polar bear whos boss

I'm glad that Nikki and Paulo are just going to be two of the survivors. 2 more characters with new backstories would be just too much.

next weeks episode looks scary!!

I thought that episode was terrible. One of the worst yet.

I thought John turned into a lion for a sec when he came out of the sweat lodge. He was definately an animal of some sort for a brief second.

It was the bear.

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I'm glad that Nikki and Paulo are just going to be two of the survivors. 2 more characters with new backstories would be just too much.

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lol. I turned to my friend and we both went, "who are they?" Totally extraneous random people all of a sudden.

WTF was up with Desmond knowing Locke's speech ahead of time?

Was the 'cult' leader someone familiar? Or am I looking to hard? He seemed familiar but it's hard to remember everything now.

I missed this. From Lostpedia :

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One of the skeletons in the polar bear's cave was wearing a shirt with the logo from the Pearl.

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No need to be an ass AC...I posted it the same time yall did...

Was it just me or did the guy who was doing the metal detectors on jack look familiar...

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No need to be an ass AC...I posted it the same time yall did...

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Welcome to the internet. Get over it.


Bible verses on Ecko's stick

Genesis 13:14 (New International Version)

14 The LORD said to Abram after Lot had parted from him, "Lift up your eyes from where you are and look north and south, east and west (bolded portion was written out)



John 3:05 (New International Version)

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.



Romans 6:12 (New International Version)

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.



I can't make out two of the others.

Habakkuk 1:3

3 Why do you make me look at injustice?
Why do you tolerate wrong?
Destruction and violence are before me;
there is strife, and conflict abounds.

Acts 4:12

12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

I guess we know now where everyone was "disappearing" to. Sort of like those lions in Africa from that movie....with Val Kilmer, the name escapes me.

The two bears were the ones taking people. Remember that chick who disappearted on the hike back from the tail section to the nose section. She was there one minute and gone the next. I think the bears did it. Lots of bones and cloths in that cave.

Google is your friend..The Ghost and the Darkness

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0211_030211_tsavolions.html

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Ok someone tell me I'm not crazy. Was it not Ben who was in Locke's dream, who was doing the metal detectors?

yes, that was Ben

I wonder if Shannon will appear to someone and ***** about something.

Ok thats what I thought, but I found it weird how no one else posted that, but yet 4 people posted about Locke turning into a wolf.

haha NoAC...


so, can Desmond see the future now? I guess there's more to the Locke backstory with the cop.

I'm ready for someone to beat the crap out of Ben/Henry Gale.

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Hey, she can appear in my dreams all she wants.

Last night's episode was, hands down, the worst episode of Lost I have ever seen. It was as if they stuck some film student with only a small, limited amount of cast members and let him make the most Losty-ish episode he could. It felt like the pretentious, fan-fiction attempt of someone who was trying to audition their "cool" idea of what a Lost episode is... and then failing miserably like those ******bags who direct dramatic Star Wars shorts and post them on iFilm.

The spiritual talking island thing officially reached "OK, you've crossed the line" territory. The Locke being mute was annoying and pointless. And it's not that it was shot horribly - it's that it was shot in this "look at what I can do" kind of way that just MADE IT horrible. And man, Locke's flashback story? Not only did it have a 5% relevance to the whole gotta-find-Eko fiasco, but there was hardly any arc or conclusion to it whatsoever. If anything, he should have shot Tom Cruise's kid in War of the Worlds simply because there was no way in hell he should have been alive at the end of that movie.

The only saving grace of this pile of crap (I think that's what the dump truck in the cave symbolized) was the last two minutes. The whole Desmond time-travel-deja-vu thing just elevated the WTF! factor to a new extreme. That, and the preview for next week are the only things keeping me optimistic for the next episode (and the fact that every episode up until last night's is part of the best series in years).

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On a more plot-relevant note, just before we started watching tonight, my roommate was talking about this thing called The Philadelphia Experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment) and relating it to the island. If you ever watch The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, or The Military Channel with any kind of consistency, then you've probably seen at least one of the dozens of documentaries on the subject.

Essentially, the claim is that in 1943 the US Navy was testing Einstein's Unified Field Theory as a military application. The theory states that gravity and magnetism (electromagnetic radiation, specifically) are connected, just like mass and energy are connected (E=mc2)...

"Through a special application of the theory, it was thought to be possible, with specialized equipment and enough energy, to bend light around an object, rendering it essentially invisible. The navy considered this application to be of obvious value in wartime (as the United States was engaged in the Second World War at the time) and approved and sponsored the experiment. A navy destroyer escort, the USS Eldridge, was fitted with the required generator equipment at the naval yards in Philadelphia."

Whether you believe this happened or not (much like I can't believe I'm actually typing all this crap), the gist of it is that...

- There's a story involving the US Navy using electromagnetic radiation to make an object invisible.
- There was a fail safe in the hatch ultimately using electromagnetic radiation to make the island "invisible"... one could assume. Which would explain why no one can (or will ever) find the island (at least using traditional methods NOT used by Desmond's girlfriend).

Keep in mind, my roommate and I semi-discussed this relation BEFORE last night's episode aired, or knowing Desmond's episode-ending situation.

Now, here's where The Philadelphia Experiment REALLY gets "out there" (yet connects even more to Lost). Allegedly, in the more fantastical accounts of the story, at the moment of the experiment, witnesses reported a "greenish fog" surrounded the ship, the ship then completely disappeared - and two of the sailors on board actually claimed that during this period the ship and crew somehow time-traveled and "materialized" in 1983 as a result. Once back in 1943, crew members felt disoriented and severe nausea.

Kind of sounds like a certain cast member's situation, right? The electromagnetic radiation of the experiment - the electromagnetic radiation of the hatch. The green fog of the ship - the white "fog" at the turning of the fail safe key on the island. Sailors traveling in time - Desmond traveling in time. Sailors feeling crazy and disoriented - Desmond running around like a loon and not remembering much of anything.

Again, whether The Philadelphia Experiment really happened (especially to that degree) is irrelevant - that's not the point being argued. We're just relating two STORIES, one as inspiration/an explanation for the other. Are the writers of Lost borrowing elements from The Philadelphia Experiment? Is "the island" using technology to manipulate gravity and electromagnetic forces to bend light, somehow rendering it "invisible"? Is this how Desmond seemingly traveled in time and saw the future? And is it mere coincidence that Tom Hanks starred in a movie with the title "Philadelphia" AND one in which he was LOST ON AN ISLAND as a "Cast Away"? We shall see...

And I shall be total fahg for analyzing it THIS much...

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Not a great episode IMO. Charlie has become a total ***.

I was hoping they were building bombs with all the fertilizer, not growing the pot. That would have really thrown the Locke character for a loop.

I was hoping that Locke would face the polar bear in cave and use Eko's stick to knock its head off. Then the polar bear's head would have exploded to reveal Charlie's face.

Desmond going clairvoyant is ****ing awesome.

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Other small thing I noticed:

The noise made when Ben was passing the metal detector wand over Jack, Sawyer, and Kate in the dream sequence was the same noise as that made by the hatch during the countdown. The noise also increased in frequency in the dream sequence, just like in the countdown.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/

What are you guys talking about Desmond traveling in time?

I must have missed that as it was late when I watched the show and I might have fallen asleep at that point.

TCTTS - The Philadelphia stuff is complete crap because I didn't come up with it or research it first[/NoAC]

Now, back to my point of view, that's crazy stuff.

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Desmond told Hurley that Locke said at the beach that they were going to go rescue Jack, Kate and James.

Locke hadn't been back to the beach yet, and when he did, he said he was going to go resuce them. He said this when Desmond was throwing rocks into the ocean.