I thought it was a great ending to an otherwise mediocre episode. Every week can't be gold though, and the last two episodes were.
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To me the noise just sounded like all the spiders walking through the jungle. Didn't sound like the smoke.
Also, as soon as arzt said it was a medusa spider it was pretty obvious they weren't dead but just paralyzed. Whether the show would have a happy ending or dark ending made it interesting. I liked the episode.
Also, as soon as arzt said it was a medusa spider it was pretty obvious they weren't dead but just paralyzed. Whether the show would have a happy ending or dark ending made it interesting. I liked the episode.
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Oh, so they just went back and refilmed the entire crash scene just to get shots of Paolo and Nikki in it? I doubt it
Yes. Neither one of them were cast until this season.
And they didn't have to film the entire crash scene again. Most of their shots were simply inserts into existing footage.
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That was like a twilight zone episode
JJ Abrams is obssessed with the Twilight zone...there was an episode of Felicity that was a straight-up tribute to it.
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Not really. They were added later. This was clearly just a filler episode.
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Oh, so they just went back and refilmed the entire crash scene just to get shots of Paolo and Nikki in it? I doubt it
The footage with Kiele Sanchez and Roderigo Santioro was either new or damn impressive green screen work...neither one of them was on contract when the original crash scene was filmed. But I would assume any shot that didn't have either of them in it was recycled.
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We also found out why they wanted Kate and Sawyer along with Jack to come back.
I heard them mention they wanted Kate and Sawyer also, but I didn't hear why. Did I miss something?
They needed them to manipulate Jack.
As far as filler episodes go, I thought this one was one of the best. I wanted to hate it from the start when I saw the featured characters and the revisionist flashbacks, but I found myself enjoying the story. It was certainly better than that damn Hurley-driving-a-van episode.
My main gripes are that the show is getting way too self-referential for me. And the background music annoys me. But the second half is much better than the first so far.
My main gripes are that the show is getting way too self-referential for me. And the background music annoys me. But the second half is much better than the first so far.
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I heard them mention they wanted Kate and Sawyer also, but I didn't hear why. Did I miss something?
So they could do exactly what they did...screw with Jack's emotions...get Kate to beg him to do surgery to save Sawyer.
What I was a little confused by was that Ben said they would send Michael to get Jack, Kate, and Sawyer...if so why did Ben go (I am assuming Ben planted himself in the crash survivors possession by purposely getting caught in the trap).
I guess Ben went to screw with Locke's head...maybe planting the seeds to get him to blow up the sub?
I have to disagree that this was a good filler episode. I didn't care about their story at all and the entire episode was nothing but save for the extremely short subplot with Sun/Charlie/Sawyer. The Hurley van episode at least had a good deal of the characters interacting with each other. This one basically had none.
I would have enjoyed it more if it had just been 40 minutes of Nikki in her underwear.
I would have enjoyed it more if it had just been 40 minutes of Nikki in her underwear.
I hope she comes up from the grave. She is a looker.
quote:The characters have interacted enough. It's almost the end of season three and due to sloppy writing, lack of coherent plot, and downright character stupidity, I just don't care about the characters anymore. Give me a decent story that keeps me entertained and I'm happy.
The Hurley van episode at least had a good deal of the characters interacting with each other. This one basically had none.
quote:That's doesn't reflect poorly on the show. Nikki is smoking hot, I can't think of any episodes of Lost that are better than her dancing for 40 minutes.
I would have enjoyed it more if it had just been 40 minutes of Nikki in her underwear.
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Oh, so they just went back and refilmed the entire crash scene just to get shots of Paolo and Nikki in it? I doubt it
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Yes. Neither one of them were cast until this season.
And they didn't have to film the entire crash scene again. Most of their shots were simply inserts into existing footage.
Flashbacks were strange. Some obvious previous footage. Some obvious inserts with the new characters. But there also seemed to be a lot of shots of the old characters doing their thing from different camera angles and povs. They didn't refilm the whole thing (the pilot episode cost some insane amount, mainly due to the crash scene)...but it was more than just reused stock footage from the pilot. Maybe they used previously unused takes and such.
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Didn't sound like the smoke.
I disagree. I just went back and listened again. It sounds just like the noise that the monster makes when it's lurking around the Losties. Note: this noise comes and goes right before we see any spiders on the ground.
I love the ending shot of Hurley and Sawyer leaning on their shovels after all their hard work. Not a bad episode.
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A friend pointed out that Arzt killed of Nikki and Paulo.
That guy just got that much cooler.
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That guy just got that much cooler.
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Just went back and watched it. Sounds like soundtrack, and not the mechanical sound of the monster.
I listened one last time. IMO it's the monster sound.
And not that Lostpedia is extremely reliable so early after the initial airing of an episode, but it's reporting that "the sounds frequently associated with the monster can be heard just after Paulo is bitten by a Medusa spider and just before the spiders attack Nikki."
So take that for FWIW.
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And not that Lostpedia is extremely reliable so early after the initial airing of an episode, but it's reporting that "the sounds frequently associated with the monster can be heard just after Paulo is bitten by a Medusa spider and just before the spiders attack Nikki."
So take that for FWIW.
[This message has been edited by SuperDave03 (edited 3/29/2007 12:08a).]
pretty disappointing, im getting sick of these filler episodes that barely advance the plot. i know they said they have this mapped out for 5 seasons, but it really seems like they could have finished it in 3 if they didnt have crappy episodes like this one and the van one.
I disagree about the monster... why would they bother dumbing down the episode with the spider pheromones nonsense, then?
What's up with Paulo hiding the walkie talkie and keeping mum about finding the hatches/ seeing the others there, not warning Jack etc. about what they said? Did I miss something? Maybe there is more to this story...
What's up with Paulo hiding the walkie talkie and keeping mum about finding the hatches/ seeing the others there, not warning Jack etc. about what they said? Did I miss something? Maybe there is more to this story...
how many days since they opened the hatch with Arzt's dynamite? how long can a spider live in a damn jar?
pretty good episode. pointless, but entertaining...like a Van Damme movie
pretty good episode. pointless, but entertaining...like a Van Damme movie
I thought it was the monster sound as well. not the full mechanical sound, but there was some definite clicking that made me think of the monster. I don't think the monster had anything to do with the spiders though.
i too am concerned with Paulo's lack of telling anyone about overhearing Ben and Juliette. Really the episode seemed like a bunch of unbelievable crap like these two discovering the pearl before Locke and Echo. i didn't like it.
i too am concerned with Paulo's lack of telling anyone about overhearing Ben and Juliette. Really the episode seemed like a bunch of unbelievable crap like these two discovering the pearl before Locke and Echo. i didn't like it.
The clicking sound wasn't the only thing that made me believe the monster was present. I seem to remember them switching to a low POV camera angle like the monster is watching the characters in past episodes, and this happened briefly right before the spiders showed up
I'd say the last 3 or 4 episodes have been on par with what was done the first year.
I think the buried diamonds come back into play at some point. Sayid isn't afraid to dig up a dead body...he's done it before. Also the other's radio...
I think the buried diamonds come back into play at some point. Sayid isn't afraid to dig up a dead body...he's done it before. Also the other's radio...
Paulo not telling about the radio he found and about over hearing the conversation b/w Ben and Julliet will come back I'd bet.
Your concern with the show is that a spider was able to live in jar?
I believe the spiders came because the female was released and they could smell her. No smoke monster involved. This was set up by the Nikki/Artz dialogue.
Also, I thought it was cool how Vincent (the dog) uncovered the bodies. He knew they weren't dead. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he digs them up. There is a slim chance they may survive.
Also, I thought it was cool how Vincent (the dog) uncovered the bodies. He knew they weren't dead. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he digs them up. There is a slim chance they may survive.
Vincent tried to tell everyone that they were still alive but no one caught on.
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There is a slim chance they may survive
I hope not...
Did you all (except "The Dog"
miss Locke saying "Nothing stays buried forever on this island"?
Seriously, some of you watching this show just do not seem like people who are the intended audience.
Go watch 24.
miss Locke saying "Nothing stays buried forever on this island"?Seriously, some of you watching this show just do not seem like people who are the intended audience.
Go watch 24.
Again, if we learned one thing from that episode, it's that there is no such thing as "just dialogue". Everything is foreshadowing something else.
What was the point of Locke telling Paulo that things don't stay buried when they buried near the beach before Paulo himself is buried near the beach? That wasn't just a scene for the sake of having a scene.
edit: 91_Aggie posted while I was typing.
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What was the point of Locke telling Paulo that things don't stay buried when they buried near the beach before Paulo himself is buried near the beach? That wasn't just a scene for the sake of having a scene.
edit: 91_Aggie posted while I was typing.
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I would say there haven't been any "best episodes ever" this season. There have been one, maybe two average episodes. The rest sucked. It's no wonder Lost ratings have been way down this season.
the ratings are down because of the move in time slot... and because ratings go down sometimes...
AustinAg.... i think you're among the minority here. I think that the majority of people have enjoyed the last few episodes as they've really opened up the plot towards the others.
I think the other side of the island w/ the majority of the survivors just doesn't have a lot to offer to the overall plot for the time being, but you can't just not have them in the storyline for 4 weeks strait.
as long as you can keep something entertaining going on there... which it was... you may not agree... but the goal w/ story lines like that or the van are to keep something there while the plot unfolds at the other side of the island.
i was convinced until just now that the actress who played nikki was also kelly kapowski's little sister on the episode of saved by the bell when zack started the 900 number dating service. i was momentarily aroused by another former cast member doing the stripper thing.
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Again, if we learned one thing from that episode, it's that there is no such thing as "just dialogue". Everything is foreshadowing something else.
What was the point of Locke telling Paulo that things don't stay buried when they buried near the beach before Paulo himself is buried near the beach? That wasn't just a scene for the sake of having a scene.
I would take this as a reference to the diamonds, not them being alive. There is no air under all that dirt...and that dirt was ridiculously heavy. How long can you stay alive down there and not suffocate? Maybe a few minutes. Said minutes elapsed as they were covering them up. If they are alive, I will not forgive the show...and I tend to be a Lost apologist when everyone else is overcriticizing it.
I'm not saying they're alive, I agree that would be over the line. However, they're certainly setting something up for later in the series.
I have a feeling we'll see that "nothing stays buried" line in the "previously on Lost" thing before the show sometime this season or next.
I have a feeling we'll see that "nothing stays buried" line in the "previously on Lost" thing before the show sometime this season or next.
I don't remember hearing monster sounds with the spiders. I'm not even sure that would make sense considering the monster doesn't attack in the form of something else- at least not to date.
I still enjoy the show, but season 3 just doesn't have the underlying tension that seasons 1 and 2 had. I guess a lot of that is because, besides the fact that we don't know what the hell they're doing there, the Others aren't so mysterious anymore. It's not nerve-wracking when people are walking through the jungle anymore. At this point, it seems like there's not as much thrill left, just a lot of unanswered questions.
Or maybe I'm just suffering a little burn out from watching the entire series in the last three weeks.
I still enjoy the show, but season 3 just doesn't have the underlying tension that seasons 1 and 2 had. I guess a lot of that is because, besides the fact that we don't know what the hell they're doing there, the Others aren't so mysterious anymore. It's not nerve-wracking when people are walking through the jungle anymore. At this point, it seems like there's not as much thrill left, just a lot of unanswered questions.
Or maybe I'm just suffering a little burn out from watching the entire series in the last three weeks.
I think it was the monster, not sure if really had anything to do with the spiders. It made the "sound"...Nikki reacted to the noise, so it wasn't the soundtrack. She wasn't hearing spiders coming toward her.
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