Correct me if I am wrong, but helicopter pilots do not wear oxygen masks, right?

I think the badness of the photoshop job is telling... it means nothing. Kind of like Hurley showing up on TV in other peoples flashbacks, etc... not important to anything other than the show's themes of fate and how people and events are universally interrelated.

I think the instance of Mrs. Hawking might be an exception to that rule.

My guess is that the picture was made to look that way in order for it to stand out and draw focus to it.

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Locke can walk
Rose is cancer free
Sun is pregnant

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don't forget, evidently, Claire's child birth. Not to mention they all lived through a plane crash in which the plane broke in half in mid-air. I also seem to remember Charlie having a headwound fixed up with gunpowder and not having a scar to show for it.

The poor photoshop is an interesting situation. It appears that the monk and lady could be looking in the same direction, it's just the background that looks real fake. And the monk looks really thuggish. Hardly even smiling. I'm not sure what to make of the picture other than connecting the two characters.

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don't forget, evidently, Claire's child birth. Not to mention they all lived through a plane crash in which the plane broke in half in mid-air. I also seem to remember Charlie having a headwound fixed up with gunpowder and not having a scar to show for it.

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Now, if we can believe Juliet, conception off the island may spare the baby and mother. I can't agree with you on the plane crash, because the majority of the people died. Only a small portion survived. I forgot about Charlie. Good point.

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i think it's pretty obvious

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You must not be watching the same show as the rest of us. Nothing on LOST is obvious...



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Correct me if I am wrong, but helicopter pilots do not wear oxygen masks, right?

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Not normally but they can if they want to operate above 10,000 feet for an extended amount of time.

Certain helicopters can easily reach 20,000 feet.


This is what I think happened. Penny hired the portugese to find Desmond. After the end of season two they started to send out a rescue mission. A high altitude helicopter. The plan was probably to jump and not land. But the island still made the chopper crash. She just had to jump earlier.

BTW this was an image from Desmond's flashback.



Perhaps he did change the future.

^^^^^^^^^^What?

That pic was from Desmond's jigsaw puzzle vision of the parachute jumper?

yes

according to the tailsection.com

These producers are screwing with us!

"Penny on the island? No! A lot of folks caught this freeze frame from 'Flashes Before Your Eyes' and thought it 'could' indicate a future scene. In fact, it looks like the LOST producers may have recolored the frame to add the extra green and give that impression. For a side by side comparison, visit here:"

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Wasn't that apparently obvious?

excellent work zap

don't be a jackass like noac rudyjax. of course that part was obvious.

Link doesn't work.

Anyone think the girl in the parachute looked and sounded a helluva lot like Walt's deceased mom?

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The poor photoshop is an interesting situation. It appears that the monk and lady could be looking in the same direction, it's just the background that looks real fake. And the monk looks really thuggish. Hardly even smiling. I'm not sure what to make of the picture other than connecting the two characters.

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Actually the lighting looks different on each of them and the way the lady is overlapping him looks unnatural. Also, it's a terrible picture in general. Looks like monk dude's mug shot. Why would he have that picture framed if we are to assume that is one of his loved ones? Actually it's so bad maybe it's not a photoshop, maybe it's a physical cut out glued onto the picture? It's wierd, and they definitely wanted us to notice it... whether or not it means anything we shall see.

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The plan was probably to jump and not land. But the island still made the chopper crash. She just had to jump earlier.

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Also begs the question, why was she wearing an emergency beacon? I think that would lead us to assume that it was an unplanned jump?

I still haven't wrapped my head around what is going on with Desmond... if he has traveled back in time, was he somehow able to tell Penny something that would have her watching out for the magnetic anomaly?

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don't be a jackass like noac rudyjax. of course that part was obvious.

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wasn,t trying to be one.... i was asking if everyone thought that?

Some crazy stuff going on.... i didn't post those pics above... i couldbn't get the link to work.

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Originally, the final show was titled "Snake in the Mailbox", which has now been changed to "Through the Looking Glass." I think both of these are significant for a few reasons.

1. "Snake in the Mailbox" was chosen by Abrams and Cuse because of the impact and surprise that walking home, opening a mailbox and finding a snake would have on a person. Snake in the Mailbox can be a metaphor for many things, but ultimately I think it is going to point to the (not a) mole being located in the Losties camp. Combine this with the most divisive episode of the season (Expose) and you garner a lot of support for this possibility. If anyone recalls, Nikki's show (Expose) focuses on finding the Cobra - the ultimate bad guy, who ends up being Billy Dee Williams (who was perceived as the ultimate good guy). I think this episode had much more significance than we may have thought, rather than just writing Nikki and Paulo off the island. Speaking of which...according to IMDB.com, Nikki (and not Paulo) is returning to Lost in episode 21 titled "Greatest Hits" which is a Charlie-centric island. Surely, she will play some pivotal role in a flashback (unless she somehow found a way out of the hundreds of pounds of sand being shovelled on her) which I believe is going to bring the "Cobra" situation back into play - only this time on the island. Someone of great stature (more than likely one of the major Losties) is obviously going to pull the old Kansas City Shuffle and greatly shake things up. We can speculate all day as to who this may be and what may be taking place (is it a Lostie becoming an Other, a mole from Dharma (which by the way, I still believe Locke may have a great revelation to give to us by the end of season), or something else) but it is odd that she is coming back in Charlie's episode. Is he going to die at the hands of a Lostie (a la Boone because of Locke)?

2. "Through the Looking Glass" was an odd name and I went to Wikipedia to see what references are in place. Obviously, this could be a great number of things in terms of surveillance (Ben's cameras and workstation watching the Losties), or maybe it refers to "Jacob" looking on from afar (similar to the Truman Show maybe?) At any rate, on Wiki, it says that "Through the Looking Glass" is a sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. In it, there are many mirror themes, including opposites, time running backwards, and so on. I have not read the book, but we know that the producers get a lot of their ideas from literature, and if they are pulling from this book - it may be interesting to take a closer look at.

At any rate, I just wanted to spend some time speculating, as things are really building up to what I hope is not a disappointing climax to the season. I wanted to offer some ideas to chum through. Thoughts?

LennX...

Those are some pretty good nuggets. At this point the mole could be anybody. But, will the identity be more impactful on the audience or the Losties?

I thought of the Alice in Wonderland thing, as well as the Looking Glass as it relates to doomsday. http://www.answers.com/topic/looking-glass

My guess is that the mole is Hurley, Bernard, Sun, Desmond, Claire, or Charlie.

Or maybe Jack, Rose, Kate, Sawyer, or Locke.

One of those.

Or Desmond.

Or Sayid...

I don't know... Vincent seems to be the obvious pick.

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Guaca-mo-ley!!

I could buy Sayid as the mole. Seriously.

What if Jack were a mole? He was spotted interacting happily with the Others (possibly brainwashed), and he brought Juliet back to camp with her. At this point, we are led to believe Juliet is playing Jack, but what if he is in on it?

I doubt he's the mole unless its temporary since he seems to be the most central of all the characters, but you never know.

Jack would be the most disappointing choice...other than vincent.

I hope there is no mole. The use of "moles" is so 24...Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring

Of course it is going to be boring in 24, because it has been overdone. The possibility of a "mole" infiltrating the camp - and more importantly, being with the group from the get go does offer some intriguing points to speculate about.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.