Before actually seeing the Falcon, did Rey say it was a piece of junk? If so, I like that line because Luke said a similar thing the 1st time he saw it.
quote:quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
quote:quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
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At the end of Return of the Jedi, the rebellion had a ton of capitol ships and space fighters and stuff. This time around, the resistance only had like a couple of dozen x-wings to go up against a death star the size of a planet. The republic didn't help out in the fight at all! What gives?
quote:That's the likely outcome IMO, but in all honesty I almost want him to be irredeemable... His story already copies Anakin's to a degree. I think it's time that Star Wars had a villain that can't be redeemed. As they have set it up pretty much Rey is the personification of the light side of the force, but Kylo/Ben is the dark side. He pretty much exemplifies how Yoda described the dark side in the PT. I'll also reflect on Rebels as well here, particularly the conversation between Ahsoka and Kanan at the end of Siege of Lothal:quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
quote:Really? I thought they just blew up a few republic planets.quote:
At the end of Return of the Jedi, the rebellion had a ton of capitol ships and space fighters and stuff. This time around, the resistance only had like a couple of dozen x-wings to go up against a death star the size of a planet. The republic didn't help out in the fight at all! What gives?
Uh they blew up the fleet.
quote:Or, he goes mad with lust for power and takes down Snoke to be the new leader of the First Order.quote:quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
I honestly think we are gonna get something more complicated than that.
I loved Kylo Ren and Driver. Loved how whiny he was, it was perfect for his character. A mentally ill and obsessed young talent who has much to learn.
quote:It was mentioned that the fleet was destroyed as well I believe. I can't remember if it was Ackbar (?) or Poe that mentioned it, but someone did mention that the fleet was pretty much destroyed because of the First Order's attack IIRC.quote:Really? I thought they just blew up a few republic planets.quote:
At the end of Return of the Jedi, the rebellion had a ton of capitol ships and space fighters and stuff. This time around, the resistance only had like a couple of dozen x-wings to go up against a death star the size of a planet. The republic didn't help out in the fight at all! What gives?
Uh they blew up the fleet.
quote:quote:Really? I thought they just blew up a few republic planets.quote:
At the end of Return of the Jedi, the rebellion had a ton of capitol ships and space fighters and stuff. This time around, the resistance only had like a couple of dozen x-wings to go up against a death star the size of a planet. The republic didn't help out in the fight at all! What gives?
Uh they blew up the fleet.
quote:If my years of watching Star Wars TV shows and films has taught me anything, it's that the apprentice trying to surpass the master on the dark side of things doesn't work out. See Dooku in regards to Ventress and Maul in TCW. Maul and Savage being just absolutely owned by Sidious was one of the highlights of the series IMO.
Or, he goes mad with lust for power and takes down Snoke to be the new leader of the First Order.
quote:No. He killed Han, there is no going back this time. Vader went back, that'd be too stupid if Kylo did too.quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
quote:Maybe she gets it from her grandfather - although I'm in the camp that thinks she might not be a Skywalker.
Rae's technical prowess was a bit surprising
quote:So, whereas Vader was a flawed hero who fell from grace, Ren is simply a villain in search of power?quote:No. He killed Han, there is no going back this time. Vader went back, that'd be too stupid if Kylo did too.quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
this was them going full in 100% you will absolutely hate this guy for the rest of the series. We were scared of Vader, we'll hate Kylo. Kylo is vulnerable but skilled... he must be destroyed for what he did to Han.
quote:The weird thing is, I don't hate Kylo. I pity him. The kid lost his way. When he asked for Han's help, he meant "let me kill you because you are the only thing tempting me back into the light." Without this temptation, I wan't Kylo to go full Dark and become a badass, yet I also hope there is a chance for redemption, even if it doesn't happen.quote:No. He killed Han, there is no going back this time. Vader went back, that'd be too stupid if Kylo did too.quote:Gotta be setting him up for redemption in IX, yeah?
I'm glad they didn't kill Kylo off. I liked his character and I feel like they can do a lot with him.
this was them going full in 100% you will absolutely hate this guy for the rest of the series. We were scared of Vader, we'll hate Kylo. Kylo is vulnerable but skilled... he must be destroyed for what he did to Han.
quote:I am thinking about reading the book as well. I also tend to think that Rey was hidden in the same manner Luke was, but perhaps by Luke this time. Based on the voice in the flashback sequence, I'm guessing that Lor San Tekka was the one holding Rey's arm. Except, Tekka never to got tell Rey who she is and where she came from before ending up on Jakku like Kenobi did with Luke.
I think it's pretty clear that Rey was hidden in the same way Luke was... Nobody except one knew. So if she is the daughter of Luke, not hard to imagine that Han and Leia don't know her... Or thought she was dead.
I will be reading the book for sure to see what details I can gather from it.
quote:She only felt Luke after being near him and around him for a prolonged period of time.
Would Leia not be able to sense the presence of a blood relative? Maybe she knows and isn't letting on?
quote:I think Marsuvees said it best honestly, Kylo views the Jedi/the light side of the force in the same manner that the dark side is normally regarded. Except, as opposed to when Anakin said that the Jedi were evil in ROTS while battling Kenobi, I believe that he truly believes that.
i think he hates his family. and the next one will be a hunt for uncle luke and cousin Rey. "This is a movie about family after all."
motivations for Kylo in this movie were good. motivations in the next one, other than...he wants power... will be tougher to crack. I hope they do it.
He killed Han. He stabbed first. There is no redemption. Han doesn't get to be one with the Force. He's not coming back. It's different than the Vader/Obi Wan kill. Find that fker, and kill him.
quote:Yep. This would explain why she would be able to feel Han's death because of her connection with him.quote:She only felt Luke after being near him and around him for a prolonged period of time.
Would Leia not be able to sense the presence of a blood relative? Maybe she knows and isn't letting on?