quote:it's Cloud City
I thought it looked like something from the Endor shield generator they blow up in RotJ
quote:it's Cloud City
I thought it looked like something from the Endor shield generator they blow up in RotJ
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Took the girlfriend to see it this afternoon. She was pretty upset, mad, that Han died.
Remind her that Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo dead 32 years ago and has been pissed at Lucas since. He only agreed to do this film if Han Solo was killed.
So basically you had the choice of one last hurrah from Han Solo and he dies. Or no Han Solo at all and they just talk about him being dead offscreen.
Personally I was happy to see him one last time.
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I thought it looked like something from the Endor shield generator they blow up in RotJ
quote:This is what I don't get about actors. They're just saying the lines and acting out a character that the writer created. It's not their character!
Remind her that Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo dead 32 years ago and has been pissed at Lucas since. He only agreed to do this film if Han Solo was killed.
quote:Who's vision is she seeing? She sees herself as a child. And the scene with Luke & R2. I thought that some element of the force stored these visions with the light saber since the light saber was an integral part of the whole Jedi Knight thing. So I thought any vision she saw would be from someone (probably Luke) who used the light saber at the time. If the scene is from some other angle down the hall when Vader tells Luke he's his father who's point of view is that and why isn't it Luke's POV?
It is Cloud City. In the background you can hear Luke screaming "Noooo!" as Vader is telling him he is his father.
They filmed a scene that was supposed to be in the force vision where Rey witnesses the "I am your father" scene but from a different angle but cut it from the final version.
quote:The great actors actually ad lib quite a few of their lines and Ford did that as Han Solo.quote:This is what I don't get about actors. They're just saying the lines and acting out a character that the writer created. It's not their character!
Remind her that Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo dead 32 years ago and has been pissed at Lucas since. He only agreed to do this film if Han Solo was killed.
If Ford doesn't want to play the part anymore that's his doing. He shouldn't be pissed at Lucas because he's tired of playing the part.
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Its probably shaky and blurry because JJ thought it would look cool. It's not from Luke's POV because they didn't think that deeply about it.
quote:Plausible
Or Snoke has tricked Kylo into believing in a fake Vader force ghost.
quote:Luke & Poe's momma recover 2 trees once grew in the jedi temple on Coruscant in the comic "Shattered Empire". Maybe Rey ends up with a branch or something.
1.5 in the AT-AT home scene, we see that she has a homemade rebel pilot doll. Right before that, the camera lingers on a small dead tree/plant with a "flower". What is that?
quote:IMO, some of these are trying too hard.
Second viewing thoughts...
1. Why does Rey keep her arms covered at all times? Her wraps hold some forearm/elbow shield, but why does she always wear it? Even when she goes to see Luke in new clothes (her new wraps are made of the same material as her new vest). I think she might have something on her arms that has yet to be revealed. Or maybe it just looks cool.
1.5 in the AT-AT home scene, we see that she has a homemade rebel pilot doll. Right before that, the camera lingers on a small dead tree/plant with a "flower". What is that?
2. Leia knows who she is. And, I think she told Rey where she comes from. Although, Rey seems to know who Leia is through the Force when they have their "no-introduction" long embrace after Starkiller Base is destroyed. There is a reason why we see Leia and Rey talking alone right before she leaves to find Luke. And, the look on Rey's face when she meets Luke is very emotional. And, there is also a reason she goes alone down the path to Luke.
3. I agree with those who think the force vision part with the Knights of Ren is the future, not the past. Rey is seeing her future. I don't think Kylo was a leader of a group of dark side killers when he betrayed Luke. He was 10-15 years old. He opened the gates for Snoke
4. Obviously Kylo's voice changes when he is wearing the mask. But, it sounds to me like his voice changes when he isn't wearing the mask. Like he has multiple personalities that speak with a different tone and cadence.
5. "show me again, grandfather, the power of the dark side". Canon tells us there is a good Anakin force ghost. I think there may also be a bad Vader force ghost. Or Snoke has tricked Kylo into believing in a fake Vader force ghost.
6. Snoke is a mess. How can someone have that much physical damage and survive without mechanical help ( like Vader)? It looks like his skull has been cleaved open, the back bashed in, and then he was dropped in a fire.
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Disagree. Did you see what the steps and building were made out of? Rocks!
I think it's a headstone. It is clearly upright, we'll all other rocks are horizontal.
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Still got goosebumps during the opening crawl and when Rey fires up the lightsaber. This is just a fun, fun movie. I'll see it a million times.
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I was really hoping the old guy was going to be Wedge Antilles.
It's my understanding that they asked Denis Lawson to reprise his role as Wedge Antilles in this movie and he declined.
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Is this the thread for only talking about the movie? I tried the other thread, but there was a lot of stuff in there that I have no idea about.
A question from a general Star Wars noob: I thought only a practitioner of the force could use a lightsaber. If so, why was Fin able to use it? If not, why doesn't everyone have one of those bad boys?
quote:I really think Finn is force sensitive, and when the awakening happened he, of all the brainwashed stormtroopers, felt it and changed.
It's possible he has some force affinity, but I bet not.
quote:FN2187 trained with with melee weapons prior to using a light saber. He was a star cadet in training.
Anyone can use one, how well is a different question. According to lore from outside the movies, someone without training is more likely to cut off their own arm than do real damage to others. Force ability is more about anticipating and defending against the opponent and deflecting blaster shots.
I think we have to assume Finn's Stormtrooper training allowed him to be somewhat proficient with it, but even then he kind of sucked. It's possible he has some force affinity, but I bet not. Kylo would have noticed him sooner.
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According to...?
Edit: I believe it, just want to know where the info is from
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Is this the thread for only talking about the movie? I tried the other thread, but there was a lot of stuff in there that I have no idea about.
A question from a general Star Wars noob: I thought only a practitioner of the force could use a lightsaber. If so, why was Fin able to use it? If not, why doesn't everyone have one of those bad boys?
Han Solo used it in Empire Strikes Back