LotR is quite possibly the greatest film franchise of all time. Cinematography, acting, score, costume/set design...everything about it was phenomenal. And it had the rare characteristic of getting better with each installment. Very rare to see the 3rd film of a trilogy be the best. Especially when the first 2 were quite awesome. (Granted, it also had the advantage of working off source material, but still...)
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Agreed.
Especially when you consider the awards and recognition.
I disagree that it got better. I think it got worse. The others just had more and more action.
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I disagree that it got better. I think it got worse. The others just had more and more action.
It's not a thread until 1906 comes in and goes against the grain.
quote:Anything for you.quote:
I disagree that it got better. I think it got worse. The others just had more and more action.
It's not a thread until 1906 comes in and goes against the grain.
Actually Fellowship is my favorite, followed by ROTK. However, it's pretty hard to rank three movies when they're all that good. You can give me any order and I won't really argue.
In the theater, I really liked Two Towers the most, which I know is definitely against the grain. As they've all been out and my interests in them have seasoned, my appreciation of Fellowship has increased a lot.
I think Helm's Deep is my favorite battle, though ROTK has the better "moment" with Theoden's speech and the charge of the Rohirrim on Minas Tirith.
Two Towers was my favorite of the books, but RotK was my favorite of the films. (But I won't argue with anyone who prefers either of the other 2)
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And since we're on the subject, here is my favorite piece of music from LOTR. Certainly on par with anything from Star Wars. Quite possibly my favorite film track of all time.
When I hear this, I can picture the scene very clearly and really feel the crushing heartbreak that the Fellowship had with the breaking. Also my favorite along with Concerning Hobbits (The Shire)
Hey. ***got. They're not gay. They're hobbits.
quote:Not quite. I went tonight for the third time. This track has a small portion of what I am talking about, which I believe is contained in at the end of the track "Burning homestead" from the Episode IV score. This was the scene where Luke returns home to find the bodies of his murdered uncle and aunt. It was a powerful piece that accompanied a pivotal moment in the OT. It is also a pivotal sequence in Episode VII when Rey gets that light saber and suddenly realizes what she is (my theory).
The track "The Ways Of The Force" is when Rey gets the saber.
Finally got my second viewing in today. Really is a great movie. Almost all of my (small) criticisms were gone.
Few things I tried to pay attention to during the vision scene. 1) When Rey is walking into that room before picking up the lightsaber, there's a bag hanging on the wall that looks like it has IG-88's head, or another droid like it. 2) The hallway is definitely the same hall Vader and Luke are in on Cloud City. 3) When she's in the rain Kylo stabs someone with his saber, who appeared to be about to kill Rey. Is that supposed to be someone from Kylo's squad, and Kylo stopped him from killing Rey? Maybe Rey as a child?
Lastly: has this thread been abandoned in favor of the big discussion thread?
Few things I tried to pay attention to during the vision scene. 1) When Rey is walking into that room before picking up the lightsaber, there's a bag hanging on the wall that looks like it has IG-88's head, or another droid like it. 2) The hallway is definitely the same hall Vader and Luke are in on Cloud City. 3) When she's in the rain Kylo stabs someone with his saber, who appeared to be about to kill Rey. Is that supposed to be someone from Kylo's squad, and Kylo stopped him from killing Rey? Maybe Rey as a child?
Lastly: has this thread been abandoned in favor of the big discussion thread?
What if Rey is just the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker?
Not surprised given the home run that the Christmas break turned out to be.
Color me happy. Can only mean that it's definitely going to get its due diligence.
I don't expect it to surpass TFA box office, but you never know.
I don't expect it to surpass TFA box office, but you never know.
17 months seemed overly optimistic anyway.....
i wonder if they also decided it did so well then as a family movie for the entire family over the holidays so why not.
without the box office success of the level of VII they might have felt pressured to rush it and keep the May 2017 date.
that does now put SW VIII pretty much head to head with Avatar 2 in winter of 2017 unless (or until) that gets delayed again. Cameron just confirmed last week it was set for December 25, 2017.
i wonder if they also decided it did so well then as a family movie for the entire family over the holidays so why not.
without the box office success of the level of VII they might have felt pressured to rush it and keep the May 2017 date.
that does now put SW VIII pretty much head to head with Avatar 2 in winter of 2017 unless (or until) that gets delayed again. Cameron just confirmed last week it was set for December 25, 2017.
Showdown!
Unfortunately I think Avatar 2 would win
Unfortunately I think Avatar 2 would win
Completely expected this eventually.
quote:Don't be so negative
Showdown!
Unfortunately I think Avatar 2 would win
I think SW cleans Avatar's clock head to head in the US.
I just put "out of office" on my outlook calendar for Dec 14, 2017.
Dec of 17 is going to be an epic month for movie watching.
Guys, Avatar will move.
I didn't think Pocahontas had a sequel, so what is Avatar 2 supposed to be about?
will jake be on his way somewhere and get stranded on a planet where he befriends a tow truck?
or maybe a newer and improved avatar arrives (let's call him Luzz Blightyear) and jake is afraid he'll be replaced, only to forge an unlikely friendship when he realizes there's enough love to go around?
or maybe jake has become king of na'vi and the story focuses on jake's and neytiri's son (recently born after some of that tail-lovin) and his quest to regain the kingdom after jake is crushed by wild beasts?
will jake be on his way somewhere and get stranded on a planet where he befriends a tow truck?
or maybe a newer and improved avatar arrives (let's call him Luzz Blightyear) and jake is afraid he'll be replaced, only to forge an unlikely friendship when he realizes there's enough love to go around?
or maybe jake has become king of na'vi and the story focuses on jake's and neytiri's son (recently born after some of that tail-lovin) and his quest to regain the kingdom after jake is crushed by wild beasts?
Noooooooooooooo!
Avatar 2 is supposed to take place mainly underwater.
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Showdown!
Unfortunately I think Avatar 2 would win
For a second I thought this was the sequel to the M. Night Shamylan movie based on the cartoon. And I started to fear for humanity and my sanity. Then I realized which Avatar you were talking about. I still fear for humanity, but not quite as desperately. Luckily I lost my sanity years ago.
Cue Vader:
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Avatar 2 is supposed to take place mainly underwater.
ITS AN ALBUM FOR FISH
quote:Great franchise but I disagree that it got better. I actually felt like Jackson has gotten worse with every LotR movie.
LotR is quite possibly the greatest film franchise of all time. Cinematography, acting, score, costume/set design...everything about it was phenomenal. And it had the rare characteristic of getting better with each installment. Very rare to see the 3rd film of a trilogy be the best. Especially when the first 2 were quite awesome. (Granted, it also had the advantage of working off source material, but still...)
Return would have been good but he screwed up how he conceptualized Gondor (basically made them a bunch of wimps when really they were brave guys that really kept Sauron from completely marching across Middle Earth) and he Dues Ex Machina'ed the Army of the Dead to such a degree the conclusion of that battle was anti-climatic.
He should have cut all the Rohrin/Aargon leaving drama at the beginning and do the battle of Pelinor fields right. Honestly, I would almost say the 3rd move was bad except for the Rohan charge.
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