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evan_aggie
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1:24p, 12/23/15
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Sorry...I'm sure this has been covered a few times on a 50 page thread, but exactly why is the franchise using different directors from TFA, to 8 to 9?

If JJ did a great job, and he clearly says the script is amazing...why had it already been a forgone conclusion that Rian (or whoever) was going to be given the reigns?

1 2 3 were NOT great movies imo. JJ at least did what others have said: revive the series and give it a great foundation to build on. I felt this is what happened with Star Trek, which I personally loved watching (the reboot).
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Brian Earl Spilner
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In reply to AggieSouth06 • 1:24p, 12/23/15
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Well, you'll never hear anyone argue that the PT had better characters.

Except this guy of course.

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In reply to evan_aggie • 1:26p, 12/23/15
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I've heard JJ say in interviews that it's because Star Wars is "bigger than all of us", and he's right. It's not something that's ever yours, it's something you contribute to, and pass it on. I can see where he's coming from.

As long as the overarching story is being handled by the same story group (which it is), and you're getting good writers/directors, it's all good.

Look at it like the MCU.
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In reply to evan_aggie • 1:26p, 12/23/15
Duh, JJ only does Pilots.
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1:29p, 12/23/15
Episodes 4,5 and 6 had different directors. They turned out ok. I think Star Wars is in good hands with Disney and Kennedy.
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In reply to Wheatables02 • 1:39p, 12/23/15
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what am I missing at 2:30? Palpatine's scar?


I recommend watching the whole thing, but ~2:30, when Obi starts describing the force to Luke, is what I was referring to.
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In reply to Wheatables02 • 1:40p, 12/23/15
Ani is going down on palp.
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In reply to Knife_Party • 1:40p, 12/23/15
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Episodes 4,5 and 6 had different directors. They turned out ok. I think Star Wars is in good hands with Disney and Kennedy.


Still can't believe we used to say that George Lucas "Disneyfied" the prequels. Turned out to be a real insult to Disney.
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1:44p, 12/23/15
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So, in an attempt to grasp at every bit of Star Wars available, I've started reading the junior novels.
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2:41p, 12/23/15
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Didn't know where else to put this.

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In reply to evan_aggie • 2:47p, 12/23/15
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If JJ did a great job, and he clearly says the script is amazing...why had it already been a forgone conclusion that Rian (or whoever) was going to be given the reigns?

1 2 3 were NOT great movies imo. JJ at least did what others have said: revive the series and give it a great foundation to build on.
Well let's remember that in 1, 2, 3, and 4 Lucas wrote and directed the films. In 5 and 6 he had help writing, and didn't direct. I have no issue with Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow taking over from here on out. Johnson wrote and directed a hell of a film for Looper and worked with some good talent (Joseph Gordon Levitt and Emily Blunt). Trevorrow directed Jurassic World and I think did a pretty decent job.

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I felt this is what happened with Star Trek, which I personally loved watching (the reboot).
Interesting you say this. I liked the 2009 film as the friendships between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were more important in the film. Into Darkness (which JJ didn't write, but did admit to nudging the writers in a certain direction) just failed in capturing that same spark IMO. Even in ST: II the relationship between the three was important as Kirk would later remark on in ST: V that they are family. In fact, one reason that Spock's death worked so well and made an impact in TWOK was because of their friendship.

Quote from ST: V-
Spock: I've lost a brother.
Kirk: Yes. I lost a brother once. I was lucky to get him back.
McCoy: I thought you said that men like us don't have families.
Kirk: I was wrong.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 2:50p, 12/23/15
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What am I looking at here? A young Boyega with Ian McKellon?
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 2:52p, 12/23/15
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Gandalf is part of the First Order?!
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 2:53p, 12/23/15
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Looper.

Hah, when you said that, I was about to say, what in the hell are you talking about? That film was not great! And then I realized I was thinking of Jumper, and Looper was WAY better.

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2:55p, 12/23/15
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Yes, that's Finn and Gandalf.

And to make us all feel old: pretty sure that was taken after LOTR came out.
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2:59p, 12/23/15
Right after that photo was taken, Boyega said to Gandalf, "Don't let them make the Hobbit into three movies, they'll all suck."
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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 3:00p, 12/23/15
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Right after that photo was taken, Boyega said to Gandalf, "Don't let them make the Hobbit into three movies, they'll all suck."
"I have foreseen it."
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3:13p, 12/23/15
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/theres-an-emo-kylo-ren-twitter-account-and-its-totally-perfe#.bf32KkZmm
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3:24p, 12/23/15
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3:27p, 12/23/15
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2nd viewing in 15 minutes (with my kids this time... And my wife came back for a 2nd viewing too.. Awesome!)

Theater is getting pretty full. Probably 70 people here and more still coming. Pretty amazimg for a 3:45 Tuesday showing!
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3:30p, 12/23/15
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testing

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3:42p, 12/23/15
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Random: Went to see it again last night. When Ackbar showed up for the first time, a guy in the audience goes "It's a trap!"

Greatness.
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3:44p, 12/23/15
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Emo Kylo Ren is amazing.

He follows two people: Darth Vader and Hot Topic.
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In reply to fig96 • 4:00p, 12/23/15
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Emo Kylo Ren is amazing.

He follows two people: Darth Vader and Hot Topic.
Hot Topic is a person?
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4:12p, 12/23/15
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Hot Topic has a twitter account...
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In reply to JJxvi • 4:18p, 12/23/15
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Hot Topic has a twitter account...

Hot topic is a store...where you can buy retro SW stuff....and it has a twitter account.
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 4:29p, 12/23/15
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Quit mansplaining Hot Topix.
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4:42p, 12/23/15
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Mind blown. Fan theory on Kylo. He's actually a good guy all along.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/seriously-dont-click-this-if-you-havent-seen-tfa-yet#.yv38yqPerj
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In reply to Carlo4 • 4:46p, 12/23/15
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Dude is tripping with all of HIS CAPS!!!
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4:48p, 12/23/15
AG
This is the Kylo Ren = Snape theory right?
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In reply to JJxvi • 4:57p, 12/23/15
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This is the Kylo Ren = Snape theory right?
Pretty much. Except that Kylo actually killed a lot of people, and you know, Han.

I have a hard time buying that theory when you have him cutting down Tekka at the start of the film for no reason at all, and then ordering the slaughtering of the village on Jakku. This is supposed to be the actions of a good guy? Yeah..... OK.....
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 5:14p, 12/23/15
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Lol. Like i said....dude just ate some shrooms or did a line and then posted a bunch of hooey.
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In reply to Carlo4 • 5:28p, 12/23/15
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Mind blown. Fan theory on Kylo. He's actually a good guy all along.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/seriously-dont-click-this-if-you-havent-seen-tfa-yet#.yv38yqPerj

Nah he's definitely an emo little peehole. Listening to Maul-out Boy alone in the dark because dad doesn't understand how totes Sithy he is.
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In reply to Carlo4 • 5:45p, 12/23/15
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Mind blown. Fan theory on Kylo. He's actually a good guy all along.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/seriously-dont-click-this-if-you-havent-seen-tfa-yet#.yv38yqPerj


I think this is one of the worst fan theories I've read so far.

If anything, Snoke is the one trying to balance the scales. One of the reasons he seduced Kylo to begin with is his blood lines capability to utilize both the dark and light side with tremendous power.

I'd buy that smoke is trying to balance the force by illuminating both the sith and the Jedi, but not so much Kylo
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5:58p, 12/23/15
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I did find the part of Kylo asking Rey to join him pretty interesting, given the rule of two and all.
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