Yep. That's my point - despite the Texans seemingly having no issues hiring and keeping minorities into major roles in the organization, the narrative is that they are racist/discriminatory/whatever else.
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Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
Can you provide some explanation on why "Keeping Pep is huge"bilbobag said:
Lovie HC
Pep OC
That isn't too bad. Keeping Pep, if true, is huge IMHO.
we'll see what Lovie can do.
would be nice to find another Brian Urlacher and Devin Hester.
Lovie caught lightning-in-a-bottle in 2006 (the Super Bowl season)...when Hester returned 6 kicks for touchdowns that year (as a rookie)
would be nice to find another Brian Urlacher and Devin Hester.
Lovie caught lightning-in-a-bottle in 2006 (the Super Bowl season)...when Hester returned 6 kicks for touchdowns that year (as a rookie)
Actually it was even more scarce. There was only 1 job available.JCA1 said:Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
I was being a little flippant before, but I think the point stands. Of course people get jobs with little to no experience. But this isn't just any job. It's basically the head of a billion dollar organization. It would be like someone being tabbed the CEO of a fortune 50 company without ever holding a job in that industry before that. It's ridiculous.rbcs_2 said:Actually it was even more scarce. There was only 1 job available.JCA1 said:Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
can't wait for the press conference today to hear "Sally, from Conroe" ask a question to Lovie on behalf of all season ticket holders on a zoom call.
"Lovie, we are excited for next season and can't wait to watch the young players get better, what do you think the toughest part of your new job will be?"...or some stupid softball question like that.
"Lovie, we are excited for next season and can't wait to watch the young players get better, what do you think the toughest part of your new job will be?"...or some stupid softball question like that.
You are exactly correct. His lack of experience is so glaring that it was really puzzling why they would consider him for the position, this year and last. I never really made an argument to the contrary. I just think it's an assumption to say he has zero qualifications for the position. The Texans certainly think he has qualities to make a good HC.JCA1 said:I was being a little flippant before, but I think the point stands. Of course people get jobs with little to no experience. But this isn't just any job. It's basically the head of a billion dollar organization. It would be like someone being tabbed the CEO of a fortune 50 company without ever holding a job in that industry before that. It's ridiculous.rbcs_2 said:Actually it was even more scarce. There was only 1 job available.JCA1 said:Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
It just struck me as odd that a post was made calling out another for making an assumption, and then followed it up with an assumption. That's really it.
rbcs_2 said:You are exactly correct. His lack of experience is so glaring that it was really puzzling why they would consider him for the position, this year and last. I never really made an argument to the contrary. I just think it's an assumption to say he has zero qualifications for the position. The Texans certainly think he has qualities to make a good HC.JCA1 said:I was being a little flippant before, but I think the point stands. Of course people get jobs with little to no experience. But this isn't just any job. It's basically the head of a billion dollar organization. It would be like someone being tabbed the CEO of a fortune 50 company without ever holding a job in that industry before that. It's ridiculous.rbcs_2 said:Actually it was even more scarce. There was only 1 job available.JCA1 said:Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
It just struck me as odd that a post was made calling out another for making an assumption, and then followed it up with an assumption. That's really it.
Saying he has zero qualifications is not an assumption. He has no experience. The closest analogy to a "normal" job would be taking a technician off the manufacturing floor and making them CEO. Just because they could build the parts doesn't mean they can run a company.
Maybe McCown is a savant and could excel despite having no experience or prior qualifications. But it is still a true statement to say he has no qualifications at this time. I can believe one of my employees has the qualities to become a good executive leader in the future, but that doesn't make them qualified to be one at this time.
This conversation is going off the rails here. He is not qualified for the job. I think possibly for many people this is a binary thing. If one isn't qualified then they are at 0. If that's the case then I can understand the point. But to me, experience is only part of what's needed.Ryan34 said:rbcs_2 said:You are exactly correct. His lack of experience is so glaring that it was really puzzling why they would consider him for the position, this year and last. I never really made an argument to the contrary. I just think it's an assumption to say he has zero qualifications for the position. The Texans certainly think he has qualities to make a good HC.JCA1 said:I was being a little flippant before, but I think the point stands. Of course people get jobs with little to no experience. But this isn't just any job. It's basically the head of a billion dollar organization. It would be like someone being tabbed the CEO of a fortune 50 company without ever holding a job in that industry before that. It's ridiculous.rbcs_2 said:Actually it was even more scarce. There was only 1 job available.JCA1 said:Were you given one of the top 32 jobs in the profession in the entire world?rbcs_2 said:
He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.
Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.
It just struck me as odd that a post was made calling out another for making an assumption, and then followed it up with an assumption. That's really it.
Saying he has zero qualifications is not an assumption. He has no experience. The closest analogy to a "normal" job would be taking a technician off the manufacturing floor and making them CEO. Just because they could build the parts doesn't mean they can run a company.
Maybe McCown is a savant and could excel despite having no experience or prior qualifications. But it is still a true statement to say he has no qualifications at this time. I can believe one of my employees has the qualities to become a good executive leader in the future, but that doesn't make them qualified to be one at this time.
EDIT: And i take full responsibility for it going off the rails. I should have just kept my damn mouth shut. Now I'm the jerk left defending McCown and I never wanted to do that.
Cal physically showed up to talk at the introduction of Lovie as HC? Figured he'd do it from the metaverse.
rbcs_2 said:
Cal physically showed up to talk at the introduction of Lovie as HC? Figured he'd do it from the metaverse.
Did he look like this?
Lovie talking around the question from Fat McClain how it feels to be hired after all the other interviews and searches...lol
LOL basically. Complete with helmet.Max Power said:rbcs_2 said:
Cal physically showed up to talk at the introduction of Lovie as HC? Figured he'd do it from the metaverse.
Did he look like this?
Fire alarm at NRG is going off in the background.
can this been any more Texans,? Elevator alarm going off in the middle of the press conference.
also every questions to Lovie has been about race.....jeezuz this is sickening. Damn you Texans for making this about race instead of winning games.
also every questions to Lovie has been about race.....jeezuz this is sickening. Damn you Texans for making this about race instead of winning games.
I'm trying to figure out who pulled the alarm. Flores, or McCown?. . . said:
Fire alarm at NRG is going off in the background.
Caserio is a sleeze bag, lying ****** bag. No wonder him and preacher boy are best friends.
Caserio is basically the HC.
Love how Caserio is speaking to the fact he's talking defensive game schemes with Lovie. god, the Texans are in football hell
he desperately wants to be a GM/Head Coach....when Lovie gets canned, Caserios will name himself head coach. He speaks as if nobody around him knows football, and that he's the most knowledgeable football brain in the world.rbcs_2 said:
Caserio is basically the HC.
Caught a short bit of the PC while out for lunch.
I thought Lovie handled the questions well. Stated that he never hesitated taking the job based on Culley being canned after 1 year. Stated that you don't ever get jobs unless people are fired and with only 32 of these positions available there was no hesitation.
He sounds confident and like a leader. Something we never once heard from Culley.
I thought Lovie handled the questions well. Stated that he never hesitated taking the job based on Culley being canned after 1 year. Stated that you don't ever get jobs unless people are fired and with only 32 of these positions available there was no hesitation.
He sounds confident and like a leader. Something we never once heard from Culley.
Agreed. He's right - teams with a perfect situation don't typically fire their coaches, you'd have to hope someone retires.
Love Culley as a person, seems genuinely nice. He exuded incompetence and that he was in over his head. Lovie has a confidence and a swag about him.
Time will tell, but I have no issues with the resolution of this search which, ultimately, is what matters. Now it's on Nick to load them up and go.
Love Culley as a person, seems genuinely nice. He exuded incompetence and that he was in over his head. Lovie has a confidence and a swag about him.
Time will tell, but I have no issues with the resolution of this search which, ultimately, is what matters. Now it's on Nick to load them up and go.
This is horrible. BoB was an ok coach, would basically keep us at 9-7 purgatory, but he had to call all the shots and became GM. He was absolutely horrible at it make some of the dumbest moves imaginable leaving a completely depleted team.AustinCountyAg said:he desperately wants to be a GM/Head Coach....when Lovie gets canned, Caserios will name himself head coach. He speaks as if nobody around him knows football, and that he's the most knowledgeable football brain in the world.rbcs_2 said:
Caserio is basically the HC.
Now we have a GM that wants to call all the shots on the field. He appears to be a decent GM based on his first draft and clearing the roster of some bad deals. We know he had pretty much zero on field input with Belichek (or at least I assume).
Why can't we just get and above average GM AND an above average coach?
. . . said:
Fire alarm at NRG is going off in the background.
It's just Cal.
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That backhanded compliment on Lovie from the Flores camp is bush league. I'm thinking Flores must be a royal PITA to work with in general.
Just like a lot of the Belichek disciples.
Flores
BoB
Matt Patricia
Saban
Joe Judge
They're A holes that sans Saban have flopped (but even he did in the NFL) while having issues in the relationship/people side of things.
Flores
BoB
Matt Patricia
Saban
Joe Judge
They're A holes that sans Saban have flopped (but even he did in the NFL) while having issues in the relationship/people side of things.
Bigfoot Is Real said:
That backhanded compliment on Lovie from the Flores camp is bush league. I'm thinking Flores must be a royal PITA to work with in general.
He'd fit in well then on Kirby…. caserio liked McCown because he'd basically be a puppet coach. Nicky boy could tell him how to do everything and he'd had to obey daddy because well, his coaching resume is *****
Bigfoot Is Real said:
That backhanded compliment on Lovie from the Flores camp is bush league. I'm thinking Flores must be a royal PITA to work with in general.
I'm pretty tired of the happy for Lovie, but not really, narrative I've heard and read already from a number of media sources. I've given the benefit of the doubt to Flores through this process, perhaps I've misjudged him.
I would agree the NFL has an issue with hiring head coaches for things other than their qualifications but what I don't understand is who gets to choose the coach if the team doesn't? I listened to a little bit of The Ringer NFL podcast this morning, and while they both agree collectively that Lovie was fired in Chicago for no reason, they also collectively agree that this wasn't his job to have. They don't think Dennis Allen deserves another shot at HC after his tenure in Oakland, but Todd Bowles does. They also took at shot at Mike McDonalds heritage and that he's not black enough. We haven't even hit the offseason yet and this nonsense has me exhausted.
Im all in for Lovie right now because of this crap, I want him to succeed to spite the critics that said he only got the job because he's black, and the critics that decided arbitrarily that he wasn't the correct one of their choosing.
Never give Florio the benefit of the doubt. Dude is always more concerned with driving a narrative than actually just reporting news.
Was listening to 790 yesterday on the drive home and they hit on an interesting point about the # of black coaches. What is the magic # of black coaches to make the league happy? Do other ethnicities not count? Only full black and not mixed race? Where is the line drawn? As of right now I believe 7 of the 32 coaches are minorities. But many choose to not count them because they aren't "full black".
Wait until the league puts in place that they require a certain # of minority coaches at all times. Eventually it will get to a point where a team will fire a coach and they will be forced to only interview and hire minority coaches so that they will meet a quota within the league. The NFL is only making racism worse than it already is, and they and other lefties/Biden (supreme court pick) are literally too stupid to realize it.
Wait until the league puts in place that they require a certain # of minority coaches at all times. Eventually it will get to a point where a team will fire a coach and they will be forced to only interview and hire minority coaches so that they will meet a quota within the league. The NFL is only making racism worse than it already is, and they and other lefties/Biden (supreme court pick) are literally too stupid to realize it.
yes, that's why the Rooney Rule has never made sense from the start.
the end game or end goal cannot be defined (or admitted)
the end game or end goal cannot be defined (or admitted)
Lovie has a shot at success for one reason ---> the AFC South is weak...especially at quarterback when compared to the other AFC divisions.
he will have to do what he did in Chicago: win with great defense and special teams
he will have to do what he did in Chicago: win with great defense and special teams
So who's rounding out his staff?
They've got Pep at OC but who else is joining?
They've got Pep at OC but who else is joining?
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