***** Brace for Impact: The Official Houston Texans 2021 Thread *****

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Yes. The old "trade back for picks" requires someone to want to trade up. I don't see anybody right now that would make teams salivate at trading up. We'll see after the media machine does it's thing the next few months.
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Interesting when they said today that Mills would have likely been a 1st round pick if he would have came out this year
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Looking back, given the crappy tools provided to him, Mills didn't have that bad of a year. Out of all the rookie QB's that got meaningful minutes, only Mac Jones was better and he actually had a team to play with.
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E said:

Looking back, given the crappy tools provided to him, Mills didn't have that bad of a year. Out of all the rookie QB's that got meaningful minutes, only Mac Jones was better and he actually had a team to play with.


He was average and with this team that's pretty good. Certainly earned the chance to start again and then assuming we suck and get another high pick next year, then can choose between Mills or whatever too 2-3 QB in the draft
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Just dont get trading watson in the afc. If the ultimate goal is a superbowl you now have to beat herbert, jackson, burrow, mahomes, and watson to try and get there. All those guys have probably 7-8 years left on them if not more. Guess the texans will have to get lucky and draft our herbert or burrow.
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bilbobag said:

Offseason:

- Fire Culley
- Fire TK
- Keep Pep
- Watson traded to Miami.

If Watson isn't a Dolphin next season, I will be surprised. There will be a market and Miami has the most to offer.


All of that sounds great, except why does Miami have the most to offer? I keep thinking the Giants would be a great fit, and several other teams that have a more appealing first rounder than Miami has for the 22 draft.
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Because, so far, Miami is the only place Watson wants to go.
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Quote:

If the ultimate goal is a superbowl

I think I've identified your underlying error…
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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Ya I get that but the comment is that there will be a market and Miami offers the most.
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I agree giants and eagles in theory have the most to offer and they're in the nfc
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Yeah, Miami really doesn't have much collateral to trade with. This year they lost their 1st to Philly in the trade last year, and are only left with the 49ers 1st rounder, no 2nd rounder, and 1 3rd round pick. Unless they're willing to give up their 1's for the next 3 years, we have to be at the point that we trade or release him immediately to make a deal with Miami.

Crazy enough, was looking at the draft board and the Eagles ended up with 3 1st round picks (12, 13, and 17th...don't suppose Watson would mind going to Philly?
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With the Flores news, good chance Watson destination changes.

Chris Grier won the war and got Flores out.

Have to think Harabaugh is in play
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Unfortunately, Watson no trade clause is a problem but I don't see him sitting out again
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So if it hasn't happened by now, I assume that means Culley is safe?
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bilbobag said:

With the Flores news, good chance Watson destination changes.

Chris Grier won the war and got Flores out.

Have to think Harabaugh is in play
Vegas and Miami bidding war for Harbaugh? Edit: and Michigan.
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Watson becoming open to teams other than Dolphins is very good for Texans.

Or maybe we hire Flores and then Deshaun loves it here again...ha!!!
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Cully had to be a 2-4 year stop-gap filler plan. That seemed to be the consensus when hired. Why would they abandon that after 1 season / less than 1 year?
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Because Mills and the other rookies/signings showed more promise than expected and the rebuild timeline may have been accelerated.

He's very bad at doing basic head coaching things. Keeping him another year risks frustrating your team and missing on crucial development.
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Texans keeping or letting Culley go will depend on if Caserio thinks he can get the next HC he wants.

With Flores news, my guess is Caserio is intrigued
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Agree. The internet rumor mill is running wild with Josh McDaniels' name.
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Culley also isn't in the best light with the players with some of his discipline stuff and a few other things
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It may be an issue of Miami offering the most of the places he's approved. Miami doesn't have a ton to offer compared to some of the other teams that need a franchise qb. It's not an efficient "market".
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I don't see Josh leaving NE again.
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Because Culley showed he's incredibly inept at handling even the simplest things like discipline, communication, in game decisions.

Things that even a stop gap HC should be able to handle.

Again...There's a reason this guy has been in the league for 50 years and never had even as much as a OC gig.
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oh no said:

Cully had to be a 2-4 year stop-gap filler plan. That seemed to be the consensus when hired. Why would they abandon that after 1 season / less than 1 year?

He was never going to get more than 2 years.

As for Miami, supposedly they aren't looking at Harbaugh according to ESPN. Edit: and according to their owner as well.
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i wonder if Harbaugh to Vegas is close to a done deal.
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Which makes me question Caserio's judgement...unless Culley was the best of the guys they could get when considering the dumpster fire.
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oh no said:

i wonder if Harbaugh to Vegas is close to a done deal.



Thought he wanted chicago
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Noble07 said:

Which makes me question Caserio's judgement...unless Culley was the best of the guys they could get when considering the dumpster fire.

Culley was brought in as a fall guy who wouldn't cause any controversy. Take the lumps while the team had no draft picks and needed to fix its salary cap issues.
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And frankly, they weren't going to attract top candidates with the mess the organization was in last year. But with Mills showing some promise it will be easier, especially if they can get some serious picks for Watson.

But I think Culley will likely get another season.
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I've always felt like Culley would be 1 and done. Beating San Diego gave me some pause though. I guess we'll see soon enough.
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I hear you, but I actually think that may be why he's gone. Mills and the rookies showed they have some chops and potential.

Is it worth having Uncle Dave babysit for another year? Or can the team get serious candidates to be interested in a long term HC gig?
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I honestly think they're stuck in the middle.

They still need a babysitter but Culley is a bad babysitter.
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Panthers coming for Pep. Hopefully, Houston says no and promotes him
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That is so true.
 
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