***** Brace for Impact: The Official Houston Texans 2021 Thread *****

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In reply to Ag_07 • 5:10p, 1/13/22
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Ag_07 said:
I think Nick has his guy but I'd seriously consider Demeco Ryans and Pep Hamilton.

Demeco seems to be an up and comer who would bring some energy to the organization. Former player may add some fan appeal and get buzz going.

As for Pep give him the reigns and if he works out great you've got your man and if not then he's just the stop gap that Culley couldn't be until this things gets turned around.


I'd love it if Ryans gets an interview.
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5:57p, 1/13/22
Unfortunately, Culley was given a horrible situation to succeed in. The Texans also at this point need an experienced head coach and one players can get behind.

Too many times his deficiencies were on display when it came to being a head coach. Bad situation for both parties.

I think has a couple of people he's keyed in on but it isn't down to one guy.

In the end, if Pep isn't here next year it's a big loss
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5:58p, 1/13/22
Plus Culley essentially is getting $22 mill for one year.
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In reply to bilbobag • 6:00p, 1/13/22
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Exactly, he was paid well to be the fall guy
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6:20p, 1/13/22
Flores HC
Pep OC

I wouldn't hate
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6:30p, 1/13/22
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That would be nice. Another option I would like...

Brian Flores HC
Joe Brady OC
Pep Hamilton QB
Jerod Mayo DC
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In reply to MelvinUdall • 6:38p, 1/13/22
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I never heard that directly that's an assumption based on things like Tunsil not trying to come back, the argument he had with Justin Reid, and just stuff that was going on during the season.

He just didn't command a room and I don't see him as someone the players respected.

Just comes from putting 2 and 2 together.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 6:58p, 1/13/22
Ag_07 said:
I never heard that directly that's an assumption based on things like Tunsil not trying to come back, the argument he had with Justin Reid, and just stuff that was going on during the season.

He just didn't command a room and I don't see him as someone the players respected.

Just comes from putting 2 and 2 together.


That is fair, I think the Tunsil issue was to keep him healthy to hopefully trade him, but I could be wrong.
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In reply to Agstro • 7:05p, 1/13/22
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That would be nice. Another option I would like...

Brian Flores HC
Joe Brady OC
Pep Hamilton QB
Jerod Mayo DC


I don't think they'll get to keep Pep if they don't promote him to OC.
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7:21p, 1/13/22
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The moment that best sums up Culley's tenure was when the Texans were on their bad streak of offensive performances in the middle of the season when asked about why or what it is that's the cause his answer was...Penalties. We gotta to cut down on penalties.
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In reply to bilbobag • 7:29p, 1/13/22
bilbobag said:
Plus Culley essentially is getting $22 mill for one year.


Gut feeling, did they pick him rolling the dice hoping Watson would come around?
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7:31p, 1/13/22
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just think how many people are going to win and lose NFL trivia contests at bars 5, 10, and 15 years from now when the category is 2021 NFL head coaches and they can't remember Culley.
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In reply to Thinice • 7:43p, 1/13/22
Negative
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 7:51p, 1/13/22
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helloimustbegoing said:
just think how many people are going to win and lose NFL trivia contests at bars 5, 10, and 15 years from now when the category is 2021 NFL head coaches and they can't remember Culley.


I can't remember half of the 2021 coaches because they all get fired every 2-3 years. (Or this year two didn't even make it through 1 year)

It's a good thing the job pays well.
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8:38p, 1/13/22
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Offseason:

- Fire Culley
- Fire TK
- Keep Pep
- Watson traded to Miami.


3 out of 4..
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In reply to bilbobag • 8:45p, 1/13/22
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bilbobag said:
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Offseason:

- Fire Culley
- Fire TK
- Keep Pep
- Watson traded to Miami.


3 out of 4..


I assume the third means Pep is staying, not that Watson got traded today?

Pep the new OC?
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8:58p, 1/13/22
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Bryan Flores getting fired has accelerated the plan. Now the Texans can hire Flores and the trade Watson to the NY Giants for picks 5 and 7 plus 3-4 additional draft picks. By March when the trade can actually happen there might be other trade options.

Maybe Jerod Mayo gets the DC job maybe Flores brings much of the Miami staff with him.

If BOB gets the JAGS Job, and the Colts stick with Wentz, second in the South might be in sight next year.
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9:00p, 1/13/22
BOB could do some good with Sunshine but if they give him GM responsibility too then LOL to them
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9:29p, 1/13/22
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one downer for the new coach...he's going to get bombarded with Watson questions from day one.

and similar to Culley...the media will try to trap him into answers that are not consistent with what the front office (or Watson's agent) is saying
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In reply to bilbobag • 9:39p, 1/13/22
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bilbobag said:
Plus Culley essentially is getting $22 mill for one year.


So Texans...
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6:46a, 1/14/22
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Y'all don't think Jack will just become head coach now?
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7:12a, 1/14/22
What makes Flores "the guy"? Seems like he's the one everyone talks about, why?
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 9:13a, 1/14/22
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AustinCountyAg said:
What makes Flores "the guy"? Seems like he's the one everyone talks about, why?
I think he has a good amount of potential as a head coach but the biggest issue he had in Miami was he wanted more control of the personnel. Not sure why he would come to Houston because he will have very little control of anything.
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In reply to rbcs_2 • 9:41a, 1/14/22
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AustinCountyAg said:
What makes Flores "the guy"? Seems like he's the one everyone talks about, why?
I think he has a good amount of potential as a head coach but the biggest issue he had in Miami was he wanted more control of the personnel. Not sure why he would come to Houston because he will have very little control of anything.
I could be wrong but I thought the only personnel control issue he had in Miami was he wanted to move on from Tua and the GM didn't.
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9:53a, 1/14/22
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Texans got impatient and deviated from their plan. They hired Culley knowing they had to rehab the organizational image, while tanking for a few seasons. After they acquired enough talent, they could dump Culley so their real HC could start fresh with a legitimate roster. The Culley plan made sense.

Then they won 4 games and all of a sudden they think they have a better team. They don't. They are fooling themselves and they continue to show a lack of vision and an inability to stick to a plan. They will bring in a new coach, with the same crap roster, and get the same results.... except they no longer have a scapegoat. What happens after another 4 win season? What happens when they still look equally bad?

Arrogance is the driving force behind this move. There was no reason to deviate from the original plan. There is always a young, hot-shot, must-have coach on the market. Every year one or two get hired, but without a good roster most flounder and fail. Who ever they hire is basically set up for immediate failure.

Culley should have never been hired in the first place, we all knew that. That same brain trust now thinks they have a new and improved plan. I seriously doubt they do. Good organizations make good hires and stick with them for many years. Bad organizations switch out pieces on a yearly basis with flimsy reasoning. Cal's Texans are the epitome of a Bad Organization.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 9:58a, 1/14/22
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AG@RICE said:
Arrogance is the driving force behind this move.
I believe that.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 10:06a, 1/14/22
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It is much more likely that this was their plan all along. The only reason to hire a career low level assistant who is already retirement age is because he's easily expendable. Since the moment he was announced, I always felt it would be a 1 year thing.
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In reply to Max Power • 10:11a, 1/14/22
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rbcs_2 said:
AustinCountyAg said:
What makes Flores "the guy"? Seems like he's the one everyone talks about, why?
I think he has a good amount of potential as a head coach but the biggest issue he had in Miami was he wanted more control of the personnel. Not sure why he would come to Houston because he will have very little control of anything.
I could be wrong but I thought the only personnel control issue he had in Miami was he wanted to move on from Tua and the GM didn't.
I'm pretty sure that was the biggest issue. And to Flores's point Tua has been regularly injured, and rarely has done more than just manage games. This year he had 16 TDs and 10 ints, then 3 TDs rushing with 9 fumbles (although I don't think he lost any, 9 fumbles is alarming), which is pretty average. Now, is that all on Tua? It's hard to tell since Tua has had a different OC each year, but I could see why a coach might want someone new.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 10:14a, 1/14/22
Only reason I could see is if they want to give Pep a shot at it.

I am happy they have kept Lovie so far as well. Defense played way over their own heads all year. Yes I know they stunk but they are basically a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string guys on most NFL teams.

I do think you can bring in a guy here but he has to more or less know he won't get his guys for another year or so.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 10:29a, 1/14/22
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AG@RICE said:
Then they won 4 games and all of a sudden they think they have a better team. They don't. They are fooling themselves and they continue to show a lack of vision and an inability to stick to a plan.


I don't agree with that at all. They aren't doing this because they think they're ready to compete and back already.

They deviated from their plan because Culley ended up being worse than they anticipated.

They planned on him coming in and keeping the ship afloat until they could undo the roster mess BoB left them.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 10:43a, 1/14/22
This is so well said.. I would add is he lost some of the players do to his ineptness in certain aspects..

I was a bad hire from the beginning..
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In reply to Ag_07 • 10:45a, 1/14/22
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Agreed. Culley was really really bad. He lacked the ability to perform basic head coaching duties and disciplined players that didn't shift the culture and probably soured the locker room. For example, Justin Reid is by all accounts a positive guy who is good for your team, and he got suspended and has no interest in returning.

Culley got $22M for 1 year. That's not a bad gig.

It's time to move on - Culley was not going to make this team or franchise better next year. Why waste another year?
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 10:48a, 1/14/22
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AustinCountyAg said:
What makes Flores "the guy"? Seems like he's the one everyone talks about, why?
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11:02a, 1/14/22
Somehow I missed they already gave Tim Kelley the axe too.

So sounding like Flores or Mayo (who is about the same background as Flores when he went to the Dolphins) as HC with Pep as OC and Lovie staying as DC unless they look for someone to run the Patriots D?
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11:08a, 1/14/22
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Here's a question I have... why the eff can't we get away from the New England family tree? Whoopty do.. Tom Brady won them a bunch of Superbowls. I credit him more to that (he won one the first year he's out of NE) than the system they run. Given that, there are other coaching trees (Andy Reid, etc) that have been successful. Hell, even Kliff Kingsbury, who got fired from Tceh, has been successful somewhat.

It is absolutely infuriating how much the Texan's brass has no imagination or creativity to think outside of their proverbial New England box. You limit yourself by being so stupidly dense.. which is what the Texans brass are really good at.

Dumbasses.
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