***** Brace for Impact: The Official Houston Texans 2021 Thread *****

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bilbobag
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Atlanta's offer is legit
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Saints seem to betting favorite
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It's hard to fault Cleveland for trying, but damn they royally screw things up. It was such a long shot and would very likely involve another trade partner to get comparable assets.
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To me it's going to be the Saints or the Falcons..

Carolina I haven't heard much on.
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Right now, I think Atlanta is the team to beat. I don't take much from him meeting with the Saints a 2nd time other than they had ground to make up. The talk about them clearing cap space, it seems like all teams involved up to this point have been doing that.

Also, he's apparently been in Atlanta for the last few days.
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bilbobag said:

Atlanta's offer is legit


Mix of picks and players
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Bilbo,

The one thing I dont understand is whether the texans have any leverage here with Deshaun. since he has a no trade clause and if he chooses New Orleans, would the Texans willingly back out if the offer isnt as good as other teams?
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I can't wait for the Watson "Thank you Houston" letter
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I hope he doesn't. Just pack your shot and leave.
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Texan_Aggie said:

I hope he doesn't. Just pack your shot and leave.


/Jeremy Piven gtfo.gif
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BCSGrubber said:





If it's the same red carpet they roll out for James Harden, DeShaun will be there yesterday.
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Nick wouldn't have let them meet if he didn't like the offer.
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The Texans have leverage because they don't have to trade him at all. It might be salary cap suicide but they could sit his ass on the bench and never even talk about him again for this entire season and all of next season and make him the most well paid but most lame third string QB of all time.

Any chance Caserio can add that they want the other team to include a large sack of excrement as part of the deal so that when it's done, he can hold the sack aloft at the press conference and say, "And we've already found a replacement for DeShaun's contributions to the team in 2021."
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No checkmark...

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lunchbox said:


So Pitts doesn't think he is part of the package....
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So let's say Atlanta is the team, what's the trade look like?
Caserio said the requirement is 3 1st round picks+ other assets

Picks:
2022 1st round pick (8)
2022 2nd round picks (43 & 58)
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick

Players
Kyle Pitts or AJ Terrell
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I just had my mind blown that the Falcons' OC is Dave Ragone and that TJ Yates is their "passing game specialist".
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Chris Olsen is also the Atlanta salary cap guy like he was in Houston
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If it's the Falcons can we get Ridley as a toss in…might be a good gamble
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Pvilleaggie said:

If it's the Falcons can we get Ridley as a toss in…might be a good gamble
I had the same thought earlier.

He's got 1 more year at $11 mil left on his deal and it pushes to 2023 due to his suspension. He's a UFA after that...so you'd potentially only have him for 1 year unless he is willing to sign some sort of extension (not even sure if he can at this time).

There is no dead money left on his deal, however...
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Mr.Bond said:

Back end 1st round picks do nothing for me personally
I don't like it either
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W said:

Mr.Bond said:

Back end 1st round picks do nothing for me personally
I don't like it either


It's unlikely to get multiple high first round draft picks. You would have to hope the team you trade him to continues to stink for a couple more years.

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Watson's a great QB. He will make the team that trades for him better. I don't see Houston getting three years of high picks no matter where he's traded.
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Frok said:

W said:

Mr.Bond said:

Back end 1st round picks do nothing for me personally
I don't like it either


It's unlikely to get multiple high first round draft picks. You would have to hope the team you trade him to continues to stink for a couple more years.



Falcons have a better chance of that happening than the Saints.
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I honestly rather have good young players still on rookie contracts rather than draft picks.

Young proven guys on the cheap are less riskier than even first round draft picks.
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yes, which is why getting a top 10 pick in the 2022 draft is very important.

probably not getting a top 10 pick in 2023 & 2024...unless he gets a long suspension
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Panama Red said:


What is the implication here? Schefter can't help sometimes but show he's a true ignoramus. This isn't going to impact any Watson-to-ATL deal.
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I think he's saying is that ATL would want to get this done prior to being on the hook for that bonus.

Rumors are Ryan would be traded (IND or TEN) so get all this done prior to that and avoid paying that bonus.
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Marvin said:

Watson's a great QB. He will make the team that trades for him better. I don't see Houston getting three years of high picks no matter where he's traded.
Keep in mind he needs someone to throw to and Ridley is suspended for all of next season. This is why I think Atlanta might say that Pitts is off the table, he might be the one player they won't part with to get it done, but who knows. If they hold Watson in high enough regard then no one is really off the table.
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Max Power said:

Marvin said:

Watson's a great QB. He will make the team that trades for him better. I don't see Houston getting three years of high picks no matter where he's traded.
Keep in mind he needs someone to throw to and Ridley is suspended for all of next season. This is why I think Atlanta might say that Pitts is off the table, he might be the one player they won't part with to get it done, but who knows. If they hold Watson in high enough regard then no one is really off the table.

Yeah, I'd assume Ryan would be traded for a package that includes a WR and draft position to pick up another one.
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Ag_07 said:

I think he's saying is that ATL would want to get this done prior to being on the hook for that bonus.

Rumors are Ryan would be traded (IND or TEN) so get all this done prior to that and avoid paying that bonus.

Yes that's what I assumed and it's just a stirring the pot type of comment. It won't factor into this deal. ATL would gladly eat that bonus if the end up with Watson.
 
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