This is a rather odd HC search.

They're interviewing some guys that seem like a good candidates but some guys that are real head scratchers. Like guys no one would ever interview for a HC.

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We completed an interview with Josh McCown for our head coaching position today.

— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) January 21, 2022

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This is ridiculous...they interviewed him last year too...

They also interviewed other head scratchers like Jim Caldwell...and David Culley.

It's the Houston Texans administration…. Not sure what you guys expect…. They're idiots.

it's possible that the Texans are getting negative feedback from the top coaching candidates (once again) this hiring cycle...in part because of the Watson situation and/or the expected length of the rebuild.

such that the franchise may have to go with another surprise or underwhelming hire.

at this point the Jaguars' and Bears' openings look a lot better because they have a clear QB to build around. And the Vikings have Cousins for another year plus great skill players in Cook & Jefferson

If it ends up being another underwhelming hire then they should've just stuck with DC for another year of two.

For some strange reason, I don't hate the idea of a McCown hire. I think because it will either be a great hire, or one of the biggest coaching blunders of all time. I don't see how there would be middle ground. And in either case, it means things are moving in a positive direction for the franchise.

I have a very difficult time believing that. People speculated that McCown would be groomed to replace Culley, and we didn't even add him to the staff. This sounds like Florio making **** up for clicks.

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The Texans, who really want to hire Josh McCown as the team's next head coach, hope another team with a vacancy will interview him, in order to help legitimize the move they'd like to make. https://t.co/9Zi3ggDEqU

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 21, 2022

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The Texans apparently know they need more than a supportive tweet from one of G.M. Nick Caserio's reporter-friends. They believe they need, as we hear it, another team to interview McCown in order to legitimate and normalize the notion of McCown going straight to the job of head coach, despite having no experience coaching college or pro football, in any capacity.

Will someone do it? Maybe. Many favors are traded in the NFL, for many different reasons. What if, for example, the Jaguars decide to do a solid for McCown's agent, Mike McCartney, who also represents Michigan pass rusher Aidan Hutchinson? How long does it take? Two hours? The time spent could help set the right tone for the inevitable Hutchinson contract talks.

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And right on cue…

Jacksonville Jaguars have had a conversation this week with retired quarterback Josh McCown this week, according to league sources. McCown, who had a formal interview with the Texans on Thursday, highly regarded for his knowledge of the game, leadership skills and intelligence

— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) January 21, 2022

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Yeah.....sounds about right......

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it's possible that the Texans are getting negative feedback from the top coaching candidates (once again) this hiring cycle...in part because of the Watson situation and/or the expected length of the rebuild.

such that the franchise may have to go with another surprise or underwhelming hire.

at this point the Jaguars' and Bears' openings look a lot better because they have a clear QB to build around. And the Vikings have Cousins for another year plus great skill players in Cook & Jefferson

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Also, they just fired a dude for winning 4 games with the leagues worst roster. The advantage to taking a coaching job with a bad roster is that there is more freedom and lower expectations. Not Easterio, they demand immediate excellence! Sure David Culley got a ton of money for 1 year, but he will also never get another chance as a NFL HC. As a result, any well qualified individual that has real aspirations of becoming a HC will avoid this clown show. Texans will end up with a desperate has-been that is just looking for 1 quick payout.

You can't be a crappy supervisor/boss/manager and expect to retain or attract good talent.

Do I think that our front office is great? No.

But this is a load of **** and you know it. No one was expecting Culley to be great, including our front office. And no other coach cares what happened to Culley. They know he wasn't HC material anyway. He was brought in to lose and do so gracefully while solidifying the locker room and culture and amassing draft picks, but he was too bad to even do that as he lost the locker room very quickly. He didn't get fired for his W/L record.

And he was never going to get a HC position anyway. He was a career assistant and the lump sum of money for 1-2 years was his golden parachute out of the league as a retirement gift. But he was so bad of a leader that he couldn't even get to two years.

But we all know Culley was fired for reasons other than wins and losses.

I really hoped we had fired Culley with a clear plan in place to get "the guy" because if we are just going to hire an unknown coach then we should have just stuck with Culley for another year

But why would the Texans do anything that actually makes sense

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Ryan34 said:

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I have a very difficult time believing that. People speculated that McCown would be groomed to replace Culley, and we didn't even add him to the staff. This sounds like Florio making **** up for clicks.

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I seriously hope so, but the problem is, I can actually seem them doing this too. Wow, must be nice to be completely inept at running a business and have it not matter at all in regards to money.

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Based on what? Before Cal got involved, the Texans were a pretty well run franchise. But even with the **** show we've seen under Cal, they've never done anything remotely on this level.

If this turns out to be a load of ****, all Florio has to say is that the Texans "had a change of heart." Even though it likely was never true in the first place, like the majority of coach carousel rumors.

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But we all know Culley was fired for reasons other than wins and losses.

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This

Regardless of Xs and Os he was awful at leading a team. We've hashed through this many times over.

He was in over his head in every aspect of being a HC.

zooguy96 said:

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The Texans have the worst front office in the league and it's not close.

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Although the jury is still out, I think Caserio has done a pretty good job. But he's taking over for arguably the worst front office (mostly O'Brien) in history.

I will completely retract this if they actually hire McCown.

Now as for this McCown smoke...Are we sure Nick isn't pulling out a trick from the BoB bag and trying to get fired?

Because if he hires McCown that's what he deserves.

They have a chance to put together a decent staff with some good candidates out there that would set them up for a start at getting back to respectability.

That would flushed down the drain with a McCown hire.

Ryan34 said:

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IrishAg said:

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Ryan34 said:

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I have a very difficult time believing that. People speculated that McCown would be groomed to replace Culley, and we didn't even add him to the staff. This sounds like Florio making **** up for clicks.

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I seriously hope so, but the problem is, I can actually seem them doing this too. Wow, must be nice to be completely inept at running a business and have it not matter at all in regards to money.

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Based on what? Before Cal got involved, the Texans were a pretty well run franchise. But even with the **** show we've seen under Cal, they've never done anything remotely on this level.

If this turns out to be a load of ****, all Florio has to say is that the Texans "had a change of heart." Even though it likely was never true in the first place, like the majority of coach carousel rumors.

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Oh I agree about how the Texans were rung before McNair died. But I could see Cal allowing this to go through because someone like Easterby wants it. I mean, we just fired a coach that was hired with the assumption that we would be probably using him as a scape goat after a few years. The only reason you fire him is if you suddenly have the ability to grab someone that you didn't expect, like a Flores, so I'm really hoping that is the case here and they are just interviewing people for potential position coaches...I just don't trust the fact that Nick C (who I actually think is doing a good job) is going to be allowed to make the decision.

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zooguy96 said:

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The Texans have the worst front office in the league and it's not close.

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Although the jury is still out, I think Caserio has done a pretty good job. But he's taking over for arguably the worst front office (mostly O'Brien) in history.

I will completely retract this if they actually hire McCown.

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Agree, I just worry that Caserio is going to have hand-cuffs put on him and is overruled by stupid.

Buck Compton said:

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Do I think that our front office is great? No.

But this is a load of **** and you know it. No one was expecting Culley to be great, including our front office. And no other coach cares what happened to Culley. They know he wasn't HC material anyway. He was brought in to lose and do so gracefully while solidifying the locker room and culture and amassing draft picks, but he was too bad to even do that as he lost the locker room very quickly. He didn't get fired for his W/L record.

And he was never going to get a HC position anyway. He was a career assistant and the lump sum of money for 1-2 years was his golden parachute out of the league as a retirement gift. But he was so bad of a leader that he couldn't even get to two years.

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I never said he was going to be good, but firing him after 1 season makes no sense. He is literally the perfect coach for the Texans right now. Everyone, except for a few delusional individuals, think the Texans are a bad organization with a terrible ownership group. You aren't going to fix that problem by firing someone you just hired. The Texans need to rehabilitate their organizational image, get high draft picks for several years, and build their young core until they attract a really good coach. They were on track to do all three until they fired Culley.

His inept gameday management is basically the greatest tanking tool possible. Perfect fit.

Did HE really lose the locker room? OR Does the front office create a toxic environment that permeates throughout the entire organization? The last game of the year, the young guys were legitimately trying to beat the 49ers. I'm not sure he lost the locker room. He lost the established veterans who were pissed they still work for a garbage organization that doesn't value their employees. Do you really think Zach Cunningham and Mike Vrabel are sitting around laughing at David Culley? No...they are laughing at the FO. If anything, Culley did a good job of separating the young players from the rest of the circus.

The Texans got a high draft pick and all of their young guys got better. They actually won more games than I expected based upon that horrible roster, and I think that opinion is widely held. Most people around the league know Culley is not a good HC. They knew that 1 year ago....ITS OBVIOUS, but the Texans specifically hired him to rehab their image. They are screwing that part up...again. They are further solidifying the idea that they have an unstable organization that doesn't value people.

A good (smart/rationale/strong-willed) coach is not going to pick the Texans. If they do, they won't have any intentions of sticking around if the team shows ANY promise. It will just be a stepping stone.

Culley only made sense when they had no draft picks or cap space to try to build a team. Now that they are going to have at least some draft picks, they need to build towards a particular scheme.

That's why he was always going to be 1 and done. Caserio wasn't going to risk making picks that don't fit what his future HC wants to do. Culley got paid quite well to fall on the grenade, and now Caserio can start building a real strategy.

Is there any evidence at all that Casserio is actually the person making the call, beyond his own protestations that he is?

The McCown interview reeks of Easterby.

canadiaggie said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Is there any evidence at all that Casserio is actually the person making the call, beyond his own protestations that he is?

The McCown interview reeks of Easterby.

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*tinfoil hat on*

Easterby wants McCown.

Caserio interviews him to shut him up

Caserio lets slip "how badly" the Texans want McCown

Media lambasts the org

Caserio goes to Cal and says we can't hire Easterby's boy, we'll get shredded

Caserio hires his guy

*tinfoil hat off*

I hate this team and organization. I'm so unable to root for other cities that I'm writing fan fiction to rationalise the living delusion that is the Texans

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I think it's just as likely that Easterby wants McCown and Casserio wants (insert at least semi-competent head coach name here) and Cal is forced to make a "Sophie's Choice" between the two of them.

Easterby doesn't fold; that's the reason Casserio is here in the first place.

Based on what I was told last year before Culley was hired, Casserio loves McCown and thinks he has the qualities needed to be a great HC. I could actually see it happening this time.

But don't listen to me because I also think the Easterby stuff is way overblown.

EDIT: I'll add though that I don't think they will hire McCown. I think that they have to hire a legit HC with coaching experience.

For those debating when the team took a turn for the worse, I think it was when they refused to negotiate with Duane Brown coupled with McNair's "inmates running the prison" comment. Brown just wanted more money but he saw the comments as an opportunity to raise a big stink and force his way out of town. Which he did to great success. From that point forward, there has been a cloud over the ownership/front office of this franchise.

If we actually hire Josh mccowin as the head coach I'm done with this franchise

We need one more year of abject terrible play soooooooo why get a good coach now? Give someone like McCown 2mm/year for 3 years and call it an experiment. If he's great, boost him when we have a chance at being good again.