I agree, I think this is them setting up to get a specific coach they want and if they don't get him, then they'll just let Culley get another year.Texan_Aggie said:
Idk. It seems like they are trying to line up another coach ie Flores. The longer they say nothing, the more I think they are discussing details with their next coach.
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Have we discussed Jim Harbaugh coming here lately?
This is an interesting follow up tweet to the one talking about Culley being fired
This is an interesting follow up tweet to the one talking about Culley being fired
Also just mentioned Jim Harbaugh is vetting coordinators https://t.co/a0zRuZzG5Q
— Brad Spielberger, Esq. (@PFF_Brad) January 9, 2022
I feel sorry for whoever the Texans draft. They're going straight into the 2nd biggest clown show in the NFL. I even felt bad for Sunshine when the Jags took him last year. Guy lost like 4 games combined in HS and college, then goes to the only franchise in football that makes the Texans look slightly less stupid.
The Texans are widely thought of as a garbage organization run by garbage people. They hired Culley, in part, to help rehab their image and their organization. Firing him after 1 year, where he slightly exceeded expectations, would pretty much cement the organization's garbage status throughout the league.
While I tend to agree with much of this, I think the team needs to move on from Culley if they can get a legit HC lined up. Culley was always a shot in the dark at best and a half ass attempt to appease Deshaun at worst.AG@RICE said:
The Texans are widely thought of as a garbage organization run by garbage people. They hired Culley, in part, to help rehab their image and their organization. Firing him after 1 year, where he slightly exceeded expectations, would pretty much cement the organization's garbage status throughout the league.
From my point of view, Culley showed enough this year to prove he isn't HC material. Not necessarily a bad guy or a bad coach, but just not going to be part of a long-term plan.
A Harbaugh/Easterby combo could throw this shlt show into unforeseen levels of disfunction.
I'm in
I'm in
It is a bad look if someone wants it to be a narrative, but the plain speak is that he's 67 years old, been around the game for 40+ years, and is clueless on how to operate as an HC. Perhaps you repurpose him to a role like RAC has, but he showed this season exactly WHY he has never gotten the shot before.
It should have been obvious in his opening press conference:
It should have been obvious in his opening press conference:
Quote:
Did you take this job believing that this it is a rebuild or did you take this job believing that you can make this into a contending team quickly?
"I took this job simply because there's 32 of these in this league."
Why roll with a coach who isn't/can't develop the players you will be bringing in with all of this draft capital?AG@RICE said:
The Texans are widely thought of as a garbage organization run by garbage people. They hired Culley, in part, to help rehab their image and their organization. Firing him after 1 year, where he slightly exceeded expectations, would pretty much cement the organization's garbage status throughout the league.
Prior to this season, all of Caserio's draft picks looked like rolls of the dice. Each player he picked had potential, but each also had baggage that was undercutting their draft stock.
After 1 season, almost all of those picks look pretty good.
Why aren't ya'll giving Culley any credit for that? Why do ya'll think he sucks, while Flores is amazing? They were both given crappy rosters and mildly overachieved.
Can't see the logic of firing a guy you just hired for a guy who hasnt really done anything amazing.
After 1 season, almost all of those picks look pretty good.
Why aren't ya'll giving Culley any credit for that? Why do ya'll think he sucks, while Flores is amazing? They were both given crappy rosters and mildly overachieved.
Can't see the logic of firing a guy you just hired for a guy who hasnt really done anything amazing.
No reason to fire Culley, he did what he was supposed to do. Be a yes man, coach a bunch of nobodies to a good draft pick, and have no relationship with Deshaun Watson. That team winning 4 games should earn him Coach of the Year votes. I thought they'd lose every game 35-0 when I saw their roster.
Are y'all serious? Culley was awful.
The lockerroom was a mess with him benching players for disciplinary reasons, his skills with the media are atrocious, and his in game decisions were atrocious.
I said it earlier and I'll say it again...All Culley needed to do was babysit and he couldn't even do that.
The lockerroom was a mess with him benching players for disciplinary reasons, his skills with the media are atrocious, and his in game decisions were atrocious.
I said it earlier and I'll say it again...All Culley needed to do was babysit and he couldn't even do that.
Let's say Culley gets the axe in the next couple of days, it's certainly possible, even though I'd be fine with him getting another season. Who's on your short list of candidates that are a must interview?
Please do: Leftwich: young guy, highly respected, been in the league as a player and coach for quite a while, he's one of the few that hasn't been a HC that might also be up to the task of a job requiring a rebuild.
Bowles: He's been HC at a dysfunctional organization before with the Jets, but he's also been in a much better environment in TB. He should have a really good idea about what does and doesn't work, he's a guy that's seen a lot and he intrigues me more as a candidate than a lot of other names.
Please don't: Kellen Moore, while I think he's done a good job in Dallas he's got a ton of offensive talent to do what he wants on the field. I think he's walking into the opposite in Houston, I don't know that he's ready for a complete rebuild as his first HC job.
Bieniemy: interviewed in Houston last year, sounds like he wanted personnel control to boot, we know what that can turn into.
On the fence: Flores, I don't want anyone that might look like a tool to appease Watson, though part of me would enjoy hiring the guy he wants only to ship him away to another team.
As a point of reference here's a list of candidates that are currently scheduled to interview for the current openings.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notes-why-coach-hirings-could-shift-back-to-defense-giants-come-to-senses-and-more-on-carousel/
Please do: Leftwich: young guy, highly respected, been in the league as a player and coach for quite a while, he's one of the few that hasn't been a HC that might also be up to the task of a job requiring a rebuild.
Bowles: He's been HC at a dysfunctional organization before with the Jets, but he's also been in a much better environment in TB. He should have a really good idea about what does and doesn't work, he's a guy that's seen a lot and he intrigues me more as a candidate than a lot of other names.
Please don't: Kellen Moore, while I think he's done a good job in Dallas he's got a ton of offensive talent to do what he wants on the field. I think he's walking into the opposite in Houston, I don't know that he's ready for a complete rebuild as his first HC job.
Bieniemy: interviewed in Houston last year, sounds like he wanted personnel control to boot, we know what that can turn into.
On the fence: Flores, I don't want anyone that might look like a tool to appease Watson, though part of me would enjoy hiring the guy he wants only to ship him away to another team.
As a point of reference here's a list of candidates that are currently scheduled to interview for the current openings.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notes-why-coach-hirings-could-shift-back-to-defense-giants-come-to-senses-and-more-on-carousel/
I think they've had their eyes on someone since last year and had no intention to give Culley more than 1 year. My guess on names would be McDaniels or Daboll, but Flores coming available could have thrown a wrench into it.
Not saying those are who I want, although I think Daboll is intriguing. Just who I think our New England biased leadership will want.
Edit: didn't mean that emoji.
Not saying those are who I want, although I think Daboll is intriguing. Just who I think our New England biased leadership will want.
Edit: didn't mean that emoji.
I wish they could get over the "New England" leadership thing. Yes, they've won a ton of superbowls. Yes, a lot of that was because of Tom Brady.
But, other locations have been successful (Andy Reid comes to mind - Bienemy).
I think Eric Bienemy is going to be a rock star coach.
But, other locations have been successful (Andy Reid comes to mind - Bienemy).
I think Eric Bienemy is going to be a rock star coach.
Didn't Bienemy get his play calling duties taken away from him this year?
Lol at getting over the new england leadership thing. Our last front move was to take someone from their org. We still have easterby. Until Cal is gone it seems like we will do everything we can do to try doing it the "patriot way"
But i agree wish we would get away from that
But i agree wish we would get away from that
If stingley is healthy we need to go with him over neal
Just because of the NE connections alone I'm sure that both Daboll and McDaniels would be brought in for interviews. I would just rather have someone from outside the NE organization.
While I'm a fan of what the offense has been like in KC, I wonder how much is Bieniemy and how much is Reid. I was on board with Bieniemy last offseason, but when I heard about personnel control request it turned me off. If he just said that to eliminate himself as a candidate then it bothers me. If you have no intention of taking a job, then don't interview for it, don't waste anyone's time.
Just for fun, prediction time for other teams with openings:
Chicago - Flores
Denver - Moore
Jacksonville - Leftwich
Las Vegas - Bieniemy (only if they don't retain Bisaccia)
Miami - Daboll
Minnesota - Eberflus
NYG - Quinn
While I'm a fan of what the offense has been like in KC, I wonder how much is Bieniemy and how much is Reid. I was on board with Bieniemy last offseason, but when I heard about personnel control request it turned me off. If he just said that to eliminate himself as a candidate then it bothers me. If you have no intention of taking a job, then don't interview for it, don't waste anyone's time.
Just for fun, prediction time for other teams with openings:
Chicago - Flores
Denver - Moore
Jacksonville - Leftwich
Las Vegas - Bieniemy (only if they don't retain Bisaccia)
Miami - Daboll
Minnesota - Eberflus
NYG - Quinn
No to Neal. He's severely overrated
If look closely at the bills season this year a lot can be attributed to Daboll not being a great play caller in their losses.
redag06 said:
If look closely at the bills season this year a lot can be attributed to Daboll not being a great play caller in their losses.
He turned their offense into one of the most prolific offenses in the league. And their talent level isn't all that great beyond Josh Allen (who he developed) and Stefon Diggs.
Yeah I don't like the idea of drafting OL or DL from Bama in the early rounds. They never seem to live up to the hype.zooguy96 said:
No to Neal. He's severely overrated
I don't get picking a LT.
If they go LT I'd just rather trade Tunsil and move Howard.
If that can't be done just stick with Tunsil and there's no need for a LT.
If they go LT I'd just rather trade Tunsil and move Howard.
If that can't be done just stick with Tunsil and there's no need for a LT.
this team needs some serious help on defense, much more so than a offensive lineman, imo
hoping one of the DEs falls to them this draft, but a stud DB would be a decent consolation prize
hoping one of the DEs falls to them this draft, but a stud DB would be a decent consolation prize
I have no problem taking Neal and trading Tunsil. Investing in OL is hardly a bad thing. I disagree about him being overrated as well.
I'd rather take Stingley if he checks out, but he hasn't played for basically 2 years. That's a pretty big risk.
It's really going to depend on the trades. If we get a top 10 pick for Deshaun (at least), plus say Cincinnati's 1st for Tunsil, that would obviously change the strategy. We could probably pass on OL at #3 if we had another top 10 pick.
I'd rather take Stingley if he checks out, but he hasn't played for basically 2 years. That's a pretty big risk.
It's really going to depend on the trades. If we get a top 10 pick for Deshaun (at least), plus say Cincinnati's 1st for Tunsil, that would obviously change the strategy. We could probably pass on OL at #3 if we had another top 10 pick.
regarding Alabama...
the Tide have had so many 1st round picks...that, yes, the busts are stacking up.
just 2 years ago...Ruggs & Jeudy went in the top 15; and OT Willis went in the top 10.
but they have been (or were) very average-to-below average players
the Tide have had so many 1st round picks...that, yes, the busts are stacking up.
just 2 years ago...Ruggs & Jeudy went in the top 15; and OT Willis went in the top 10.
but they have been (or were) very average-to-below average players
if Stingley is the pick...hopefully he will be healthier than the last CB to go in the top 5.
the Lions' #3 overall pick from 2020...Okudah...has only played in 10 games in 2 years. And will be trying to come back from a torn achilles
the Lions' #3 overall pick from 2020...Okudah...has only played in 10 games in 2 years. And will be trying to come back from a torn achilles
I see Howard as the future LT..
Still think Culley will be out.
Still think Culley will be out.
Talent level isn't that great? Sure they don't have a rushing attack outside of Allen(still #6 rushing attack in the league), but that is they way they are designed. They easily have a top 5 receiving corps. Diggs, Beasley, Gabe Davis D. Knox, Sanders all have over 500 yards receiving. As a reference Brady only had 4 receivers over 500 yards.Ryan34 said:redag06 said:
If look closely at the bills season this year a lot can be attributed to Daboll not being a great play caller in their losses.
He turned their offense into one of the most prolific offenses in the league. And their talent level isn't all that great beyond Josh Allen (who he developed) and Stefon Diggs.B
Also it could be argued that the qb coach had more to do with developing Allen than Daboll. Ken Dorsey, who was also Cam Newtons qb coach when he was an MVP.
As I said in my original post, this year Daboll's playcalling is a big reason for the 6 losses the bills had this year. Specifically their big losses against the Jags and Pats and Steelers He calls better plays in those games they are enjoying a bye this week.
I'm very curious about the two first picks this year. I could see Jacksonville taking Neal, Hutchinson, or Thibodaux. I think Detroit takes Hutchinson since he's the local kid and he had a hell of a season, he's almost the only one at the top of the board I think is guaranteed to be gone before we draft at 3. If Stingley is healthy, I'm 100% on board with taking him.W said:
if Stingley is the pick...hopefully he will be healthier than the last CB to go in the top 5.
the Lions' #3 overall pick from 2020...Okudah...has only played in 10 games in 2 years. And will be trying to come back from a torn achilles
Hutchison screams "bust" to me.
Agree. Heard nothing about him until the Ohio State game. Would be cautious drafting him.
it's a shame that there is not a Ja'Maar Chase-equivalent at the WR position this year.
the Texans and Jaguars both need a marquee WR
the Texans and Jaguars both need a marquee WR
Culley is out. I feel bad for him...he didn't get much of a shot. However, I also think the job was over his head and it was just a matter of whether or not he got another year.
McDaniels? Mayo? Flores? Or some wild card? I doubt it's the latter...Caserio is going to pick somebody from the Belichick tree.
McDaniels? Mayo? Flores? Or some wild card? I doubt it's the latter...Caserio is going to pick somebody from the Belichick tree.
Culley gone
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