some guys are legends in their own minds.

now for McCown...he's got to get out there and hustle and get hired somewhere as a quarterbacks coach or assistant offensive something, etc..,

so he has a few years of coaching on his resume

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I'm SO ****IN tired of race baiting bull ****

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Then I bet you'll love this...... Sun Man

Some other team will hire McCown in a year or so and they'll immediately become perennial Super Bowl contenders.

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Some other team will hire McCown in a year or so and they'll immediately become perennial RACIST Super Bowl contenders.

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FIFY

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Pep named OC..

Mayo DC?

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well I think this stops the Culley bleeding for a bit. Now, back to tanking and stocking up for a couple years.

So is the plan to pay the QB 40mil not to play again next year. I'm not sure that's great cap or roster management strategy.

Texans have had a black GM and three black HCs (yes, Romeo only sorta counts). The Texans have also had an owner refer to NFL players as "inmates".

As Bilbo mentioned, hiring McCown would have been a rubber stamp of the issue from a perception standpoint. I think Flores knows damn well his lack of hiring by the Texans was not racially driven, but he wants to drive that narrative and go on the offensive. Regardless, I don't know where that goes if anywhere when the Texans have now hired two underrepresented coaches and fired both white and non-white front office personnel and coaches after a short period of time (Gaine, Culley, BoB, etc.)

Would be ironic if the Texans apparent incompetency if the thing that saves them from being painted discriminatory or retaliatory.

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Sea Speed said:

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I feel bad for McCown, he missed an opportunity because some piece of **** cried racism. You only get so many shots in life and this one was definitely affected by the man who cried racism.

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He had no business even being in the conversation.

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That completely misses the point. Of all the reasons there were to not hire him, his skin color is not one of them. He was removed from the conversation for one reason only, which was his skin color, not for all of the reasons that have been hashed out on this thread over the last few weeks.

Texans always gonna Texan....

Horrible, pandering hire. They will be in this same position in 2 years down the road. Book it.

LOL at the statement put out by the Flores Lawyers. One shouldn't expect to be hired by a potential employer they are presently suing for something the employer has yet to do.

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Sea Speed said:

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I feel bad for McCown, he missed an opportunity because some piece of **** cried racism. You only get so many shots in life and this one was definitely affected by the man who cried racism.

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He had no business even being in the conversation.

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That completely misses the point. Of all the reasons there were to not hire him, his skin color is not one of them. He was removed from the conversation for one reason only, which was his skin color, not for all of the reasons that have been hashed out on this thread over the last few weeks.

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You're assuming he wasn't hired because of his skin color, which is not true. He wasn't hired because he has zero qualifications. If Flores hadn't gone scorched earth, he'd be the HC right now. The Texans could have hired McCown at any point, including last year, but choose to wait on Flores. It backfired in a big way.

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You're assuming he wasn't hired because of his skin color, which is not true. He wasn't hired because he has zero qualifications.

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McCown has zero qualifications? Isn't that itself an assumption?

He certainly lacks experience. I'm not making that argument. But lack of experience doesn't mean someone is completely unqualified. I was given a job when I had no experience, but I had knowledge of what went into my job.

Also, if you go back at all you will know I was firmly in the "anybody but McCown" camp. I just don't think any of us know him or the situation enough to say he has zero qualifications.

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If Lovie had such great qualifications why wasn't he interviewed early on? Why did he not get a look until all three finalists were ruled out?

Lovie wasn't hired because of his qualifications. Don't be so naive.

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THIS.

The Texans are telling us who they are but the idiot sports media and the fans aren't listening.

This idiot ownership/management have bungled their way through yet another hiring process in what is probably the worst way possible yet again.

Hiring Lovie Smith in the manner in which he was hired is about as racially motivated as hiring McCown's unqualified ass would have been made out to be in the media.

Lovie Smith was on the staff, right under their noses and collecting a paycheck from this organization for the last year yet they never even considered him for the job. They never even interviewed him to satisfy the Rooney Rule. They had less than zero interest in him at all.

Until Flores decided to sue the NFL for being racist.

Give credit to the clown show for having enough collective brain activity to realize that in light of the lawsuit and the media attention it was getting they could not now hire an unqualified white guy as head coach. Next choice was the guy that had gone out of his way to call the league and three teams individually racist. Awesome. Only the Texans could have put themselves in this situation.

I would bet that Cal got a few phone calls from the league letting him know the displeasure with which hiring an unqualified white guy would be viewed at HQ. He likely also got some calls from other owners explaining how uncomfortable the next owners' meetings would be for him should he hire Flores.

You can almost hear the three legged hamster staring to turn the little wheel that runs what passes for a brain in Simple Cal's head, and the 20 watt bulb flicker to life as he came to the epiphany that he needed to hire a black guy for a head coach.

Turns out the closest black guy with the qualifications to be a head coach in the NFL was Lovie. So he suddenly goes from not even worthy of a passing glance to the "favorite" overnight.

Either Lovie Smith is a good hire and ownership/management are morons for not looking at him the second they knew they were going to fire Culley, or they are morons because they are willing to hire someone they don't think is good enough simply because of his skin color. Any story that they suddenly had a realization of what a great coach Lovie is (like this is some syrupy romantic comedy) is complete horse crap.

Either way, hiring a quality winning coach is certainly not among the top criteria that was used in this coaching search, and as such is not a top criteria in the running of this team. That is the reality. That is who the Texans are. A team that is happy to exist, win some games, make their money and maybe luck into a playoff appearance or two. That is what this entire process is telling the world.

Maybe the Texans can introduce Lovie as the head coach today while playing some Vanessa Williams in the background.

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But now we're standing face to face
Isn't this world a crazy place?
Just when I thought our chance had passed
You go and save the best for last

Sometimes the very thing you're looking for
Is the one thing you can't see

Sometimes the snow comes down in June
Sometimes the sun goes 'round the moon
Just when I thought our chance had passed
You go and save the best for last

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