There are still several teams that don't want to be associated with him regardless of the criminal charges. Teams that would/should be in the market for him.
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Right, and it's not like that makes him much different from a zillion other professional athletes. The team that ultimately trades for him doesn't need him going to read to kids and wear a pink ribbon for breast cancer awareness; they're paying him to win some GD football games.Snake Jazz said:bilbobag said:
The criminal side has been determined. Still need to see how civil plays out. The civil side isn't going away anytime soon. Just mean Watson won't face any jail time.
True, but that shouldn't have much of an effect n trading him at this point, right? Civil cases may not be wrapped up for years.
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i think it was more of a he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and so on and so forth type of thing.rbcs_2 said:But it was always mostly a he said, she said type of case.Sea Speed said:
Wow. I'm very surprised.
No crimes for this sends a great message to our children.
Quarterback is usually the face of the franchise. They are typically held to higher moral standard than the rest of the players on the team.
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Quarterback is usually the face of the franchise. They are typically held to higher moral standard than the rest of the players on the team.
And yet, a fanbase is about to collectively orgasm when their team signs him.
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Jalen Hurt’s bio used to say “QB of the Philadelphia Eagles”
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Could be nothing. pic.twitter.com/ShbbW5XEPs
Wha do the shades mean????0
I bet the trade offers are starting to roll in.
Via ESPN: Carolina #Panthers to make 'aggressive' offer for Houston Texans QB Deshaun Watson according to @DNewtonespn. https://t.co/83wUYJMf6u
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) March 12, 2022
Bilbo… spill it!
bilbo - regardless of if something has been agreed to, how long do you see things going before something is announced?
Before the new league year?
Before the new league year?
Bilbo might know but if you're the Texans you want this done today. No waiting. But with Watsons agent I bet we're talking about the trade on draft night.
That guy sucks.
That guy sucks.
I read that teams need to make the deal happen before the league year starts because they have to get their salary cap in order prior to the end of day 1. With all the stories floating out there, I think the deal will be leaked soon and it is likely to be huge.
Really wish the Texans would just constantly *****with DeShaun and say they want to rebuild around him and they've invited him to a corporate retreat to work on the internal trust issues.
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I hope Caserio tells him they have a tentative deal in place with Seattle but there's one small detail that hangs in the balance. Duane Brown has to publicly apologize for all his disparaging comments, bend over, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own arse.helloimustbegoing said:
Really wish the Texans would just constantly *****with DeShaun and say they want to rebuild around him and they've invited him to a corporate retreat to work on the internal trust issues.
I think this will be a bidding war of NFC teams, I don't see him in the AFC unless there's a holy ****ing **** offer. Seattle and Carolina are desperate. Philly has the best chance at an offer that gets the deal done but it depends on whether they are really interested. They are my preferred option for speed of return assets. I think every GM in the NFC south is going to sit down and think about making an offer.
Most likely:
Carolina
Philadelphia
Seattle
Darkhorses:
Chicago
Minnesota
New Orleans
New York Giants
Tampa Bay
Washington
Shocker:
Atlanta
Detroit
SF
Nope:
Arizona
Dallas
Green Bay
Los Angeles Rams
Keep an eye on the Saints..
Carolina, Saints, and Seattle now on the forefront
Carolina, Saints, and Seattle now on the forefront
The #Saints and #Panthers have made offers for #Texans QB Deshaun Watson and are likely to meet with him soon, sources tell me and @TomPelissero. Other teams also are involved. Watson has a no-trade clause and wants to meet with teams before formally waiving it anywhere.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 13, 2022
The #Texans are expected to grant permission for interested clubs to speak to Deshaun Watson, so this could ramp up quickly. The price hasn’t changed – three first-round picks and more – and multiple teams are willing to pay it. https://t.co/1LJ5NLva9R
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 13, 2022
What do the saints even have? Aren't they in cap hell
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Something that may be worth considering is what we plan to do with Tunsil. You'd have to think a team like Cincinnati would be willing to trade for him. If you get #30 for him, then a team who's willing to give picks through 2024 might make more sense than Philly's stash that is front loaded. All depends on the offers though.
from a standpoint of "building his brand" --- the top 3 and the Saints are kind of so-so for that.Max Power said:
I think this will be a bidding war of NFC teams, I don't see him in the AFC unless there's a holy ****ing **** offer. Seattle and Carolina are desperate. Philly has the best chance at an offer that gets the deal done but it depends on whether they are really interested. They are my preferred option for speed of return assets. I think every GM in the NFC south is going to sit down and think about making an offer.
Most likely:
Carolina
Philadelphia
Seattle
Darkhorses:
Chicago
Minnesota
New Orleans
New York Giants
Tampa Bay
Washington
the Giants, Bears, and former Redskins would be the places to go
I'd like to see DeShaun go to Philly the most so their fans and media can regularly destroy him, maybe mix in a few thrown batteries when it's 25 degrees below zero and he just threw a pick 6. The Eagles have 3 #1 picks this year 15, 16, and 19. They have their #1s intact for the next few years as well.
Texans already have the Saints 3rd round pick this year for Bradley Roby and a conditional 6th round next year. They pick 13th overall this year. They had to forfeit their 6th round pick for '22 for violating COVID rules. We also have their 7th round pick for Mark Ingram in 2024.
Texans already have the Saints 3rd round pick this year for Bradley Roby and a conditional 6th round next year. They pick 13th overall this year. They had to forfeit their 6th round pick for '22 for violating COVID rules. We also have their 7th round pick for Mark Ingram in 2024.
Here are the current draft assets for each team...from what I have been able to find online...bilbobag said:
Keep an eye on the Saints..
Carolina, Saints, and Seattle now on the forefront
Also, the info below obviously doesn't take into account any player assets that could be dealt.
Panthers:
2022 1st (6th overall)
(2) 2022 5th rounders (from JAX and their own)
2022 6th (from LV)
2022 7th (from TEN)
2023 - they have all their picks except for their 6th and they get an extra 7th
2024 - they have all their picks
Summary - they can trade their next 3 1st rounders if they want to, but can't add much more in 2022.
Seahawks
2022 1st (9th overall from DEN)
(2) 2022 2nd rounders (from DEN and their own)
2022 3rd
2022 4th (from NYJ)
(2) 2022 5th rounders (from DEN and their own)
2022 7th
2023 - they have all their picks plus DEN's 1st and 2nd rounders and PIT's 5th
2024 - they have all their picks
Summary - draft capital-wise, the Seahawks can offer the most. Over the next 2 years, they could offer (3) 1sts and (3) 2nds if they wanted to.
Saints
2022 1st (18th overall)
2022 2nd
2022 3rd* (projected comp pick)
2022 4th
2022 5th
2022 6th* (projected comp pick)
2022 7th
2023 - they have all their picks except for their 6th rounder
2024 - they have all their picks except for their 6th rounder
Summary - they can offer a lot of picks over the next 3 years, but they would probably not be as high as Seattle's, especially short-term.
So we give up DeShaun and trade for Carolina's next 3 #1s and Christian McCaffrey
Then we perfect the time machine, set it back to 2016, and put McCaffrey and David Johnson out there as the greatest 1-2 running back punch in NFL history.
Then we perfect the time machine, set it back to 2016, and put McCaffrey and David Johnson out there as the greatest 1-2 running back punch in NFL history.
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https://www.profootballnetwork.com/sources-saints-emerging-as-extremely-serious-contender-in-deshaun-watson-trade-market-no-trade-clause-gives-him-a-lot-of-leverage/
Saints general manager Mickey Loomis is determined to land Watson and is prepared to make aggressive, roster-shaking moves to pull this off, according to league sources.
Loomis is expected to try to meet with Watson, as soon as permission is granted, for him to talk directly with teams in what could amount to something of an NFL-style recruiting process for the Georgia native and former blue-chip Clemson recruit, national champion and first-round draft pick.
The Texans still want a package of three first-round draft picks, other draft capital, and players in exchange for Watson. One player that sources predict would be part of a potential Saints trade is offensive tackle Ryan Ramczyk. Defensive end Marcus Davenport, defensive tackle David Onyemata, and center Erik McCoy are other logical players that bear watching in a potential trade, sources said.
Because the Saints' first-round draft pick in 2022 is 18th overall, the Texans would want that selection along with 2023 and 2024 first-round picks in addition to second-round selections.
Need a sheet-ton of 1s and 2s from the Saints because 18th ain't worth a damn.
Based on this breakdown I'd say Seattle is the most likely team to go all in on Watson. Philly has a lot of assets and made the playoffs, but the question comes down to whether or not they want him. Philly can offer the most, if they want to. I don't think Carolina or New Orleans can make the offer we are going to want to get it done. But if Carolina or New Orleans are able to flip some of their current assets for picks, that they then use to offer us they would then they could be in the conversation.
I think Mccaffrey still has life left, as long as he isn't used as 85% of the offense which is why he keeps ending up injured.
I agree, but trading for him will be nothing but David Johnson comparisons.
Texans’ QB Deshaun Watson is expected to meet in the next 48 hours with the Carolina Panthers and New Orleans Saints, amongst other teams, per league sources. Watson wants to meet with them just as they want to meet with him before trade talks ramp up.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 14, 2022
Saints and Panthers ask him to settle out his civil suits?
Watson is being deposed tomorrow, my guess he's meeting today .
Where I’m at: if Watson tells Houston that Carolina is an acceptable destination, among others, I get the sense Carolina will offer Houston more than other teams can/will in terms of picks AND rookie contract starters. It will cost a fortune. And they’ll likely do it.
— John Ellis (@1PantherPlace) March 14, 2022
If only....if only
I think the no trade clause will become a non-factor. I don't see Deshaun using it as leverage, but it wouldn't surprise me if Muhlugeta is trying to broker a deal.
I think Nick will get max value and we'll be impressed with the haul. Then he's not our problem anymore.
I think Nick will get max value and we'll be impressed with the haul. Then he's not our problem anymore.
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