Good point Hank. I meant major supporter as in he fought for them and lost everything - didn't mean to imply he was a big lord.
quote:Martin gave them the material for Stannis' deed. Its pretty funny watching the internet react toward D&D the way they have as if Martin didn't do these things himself. Its GRRM's story.
Sooo... Pimping out a 14 year old and burning a 12 year old at the stake....good day of work D&D
quote:GRRM had plenty of rape and death in the books. You really think that D&D just come up with this stuff out of thin air?
It baffles me that D&D choose to add more violence and abuse to the TV audience that didn't even happen in the books. Maybe they knew GRRM would kill Shireen but that added with the Sansa rape makes me think they are just trying to shock instead if telling the story.
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It baffles me that D&D choose to add more violence and abuse to the TV audience that didn't even happen in the books. Maybe they knew GRRM would kill Shireen but that added with the Sansa rape makes me think they are just trying to shock instead if telling the story.
quote:in the episode recap directly after, one of the creators says something along the lines of "when george first told us about this, we couldn't believe it but understood it took stannis' story full circle" so I don't think they came up with this on their own
It baffles me that D&D choose to add more violence and abuse to the TV audience that didn't even happen in the books. Maybe they knew GRRM would kill Shireen but that added with the Sansa rape makes me think they are just trying to shock instead if telling the story.
quote:Well, the good thing is this sets the way for Jon Snow to take over the army's of the north once the book 5 ending plays out.
His brother was a grown man and fighting him for the throne.
quote:nope...i think they leave the ending now with Jon stabbed and dying.....
Well I figured Shireen would get burned but in a way that would raise Jon Snow from the dead. This is not good.
quote:and this ENDS any chance that Stannis is the true king or winner in the end...you can't have a guy who sacrifices his own daughter be the one to rule in the end.quote:Well, the good thing is this sets the way for Jon Snow to take over the army's of the north once the book 5 ending plays out.
His brother was a grown man and fighting him for the throne.
stannis is now a disgraced leader. his army will abandon him and go to zombie jon
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Well I figured Shireen would get burned but in a way that would raise Jon Snow from the dead. This is not good.
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Well I figured Shireen would get burned but in a way that would raise Jon Snow from the dead. This is not good.
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Not sure why someone in GRRM's world needs to be just or true to win the throne.
quote:interesting
Assuming they're both dying at the same time, wouldn't stannis be shedding plenty of kings blood to raise Jon inadvertently?
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Not sure why someone in GRRM's world needs to be just or true to win the throne.