**Official Game of Thrones: Season 5 Thread (BOOK READERS/SPOILERS ALLOWED)**

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In reply to AgLaw • 10:23p, 6/14/15
AG
The last chapter of DwD Daenerys runs into the Khalasar, her inner monologue is highlighted with "Fire and Blood".

And she miscarried.
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:24p, 6/14/15
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Jon snow will kill the boltons. Melisandre sees it in her visions and now realizes it's Jon not Stannis who is Azor ahai. She will resurrect him and Sansa and theon come back to the wall, where he will receive the pink letter.

Seems like it could work. I want to believe!
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:25p, 6/14/15
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Thanks
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In reply to The Dog Lord • 10:25p, 6/14/15
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Notice her reactions to the next day at Stannis camp. She knows it's not right. She realizes her visions are haven't been of Stannis, but of Jon. This is why they have her stare at him multiple times in the show.
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:31p, 6/14/15
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Notice her reactions to the next day at Stannis camp. She knows it's not right. She realizes her visions are haven't been of Stannis, but of Jon. This is why they have her stare at him multiple times in the show.


I noticed that too. I cheered when she showed up at the wall.
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10:33p, 6/14/15
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I thought maybe she saw the Bolton banners burning (GRRM would be proud) b/c Littlefinger will show up and kill all the Boltons
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In reply to ellebee • 10:33p, 6/14/15
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I still have my money on him warging into ghost.
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In reply to redline248 • 10:34p, 6/14/15
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Can't be pittlefinger, her visions are only for Azor asai
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10:34p, 6/14/15
AG
So...

What now for Brienne?
What now for Davos?
What now for Jaime? Soon as that B kissed Myrcella I knew she was a goner. Wonder how Tristan will handle that.
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10:34p, 6/14/15
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cliffhangers:
jon's fate
How is it a cliffhanger? Whether or not he stays dead is another question altogether, but as far as what we saw, he is dead.
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:35p, 6/14/15
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Can't be pittlefinger, her visions are only for Azor asai

Are you 100% sure about that?
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:37p, 6/14/15
I'm still undecided. Signs point to him warging but Mel must be at the wall for a reason. If she thinks he is AA she won't let him go. Has she resurrected anyone so far?
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10:37p, 6/14/15
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So... if they don't bring Jon Snow back, who else is now team white walkers? I mean, have they actually killed anyone that we like? At this point I'd be ok if they conquered at least the north.
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In reply to ellebee • 10:39p, 6/14/15
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I'm still undecided. Signs point to him warging but Mel must be at the wall for a reason. If she thinks he is AA she won't let him go. Has she resurrected anyone so far?

No she has not. She seemed a little offended in the show episode when she met Thoros and learned he could do it. Of course, that's not in the book, but she's never done it.
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10:41p, 6/14/15
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Only death can pay for life.
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10:42p, 6/14/15
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Anyone see the picture in the non spoiler thread? Showing Jon with warg eyes?? Photoshop or real? I never caught it real time
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10:42p, 6/14/15
Shireen on a stick had to be for Jon. Who else would it have been for? Unless she really didn't have "king's" blood.
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 10:43p, 6/14/15
AG
I think it's fake, but I also thought the leaked "previously on" was fake as well.

Nice misdirection by the show with that, by the way. Putting Benjen in there was brilliant.
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In reply to BallerStaf2003 • 10:43p, 6/14/15
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Notice her reactions to the next day at Stannis camp. She knows it's not right. She realizes her visions are haven't been of Stannis, but of Jon. This is why they have her stare at him multiple times in the show.

I mean that's been everybody's guess, and there has been a lot more in the books to support it too. You just never know. I think it makes sense to have the pink letter demand that Sansa and Reek be returned, they turn Mel over, etc. We also won't be wondering if it's real or not. A newly resurrected Jon can then act how he wants with the wildlings at his back for support.
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In reply to ellebee • 10:44p, 6/14/15
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There's zero chance he dies completely. Only thing I'm curious about is how he is resurrected. I think it's Melisandre after everything we've seen on the show.

Also, the show has done very little with the dire wolves that all the Starks have the ability to warg into. If Jon was gonna warg into Ghost. They would have shown him having a dream he was ghost.
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10:44p, 6/14/15
AG
Will there even be a pink letter now?
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10:45p, 6/14/15
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What is the WW motive anyways? Seems like they're cursed, not conquerors... Maybe their just trying to reverse the curse, and have to take back over Westeros to do so? If so, I am pro-WW, because it's a tale of reconciliation at the end of the day
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10:45p, 6/14/15
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Seriously, how crappy is the nights watch? Killed morning and Jon snow. Could they be any more clueless?
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 10:46p, 6/14/15
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Anyone see the picture in the non spoiler thread? Showing Jon with warg eyes?? Photoshop or real? I never caught it real time


99% that is a photoshop. I was watching closely and thought they were actually showing the eyes dilating to make sure we know he's dead.
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10:47p, 6/14/15
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 10:47p, 6/14/15
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We don't really know their purpose but it's definitely to conquer. Some people think that the dragons and targaryens are actually the evil ones, and the white walkers wake up to fight them.
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 10:47p, 6/14/15
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Anyone see the picture in the non spoiler thread? Showing Jon with warg eyes?? Photoshop or real? I never caught it real time

Fake. Just watched again three times.
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 10:48p, 6/14/15
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Fake, fake, fake.
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10:49p, 6/14/15
AG
Okay then... I just posted that so people would know what the people above were talking about... I provide information.
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In reply to redline248 • 10:49p, 6/14/15
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Will there even be a pink letter now?

Read my post a few above yours. I think it could still serve to move things on in the north.
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10:49p, 6/14/15
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Shame











Shame










Shame










*ding ding*

If that's mothers mercy I'd rather the warrior just chop my head off.
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10:50p, 6/14/15
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Not to mention, the blood kind of looks like a howling wolf. Good catch.
Reaching on the interwebz
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 10:53p, 6/14/15
AG
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cliffhangers:
jon's fate
How is it a cliffhanger? Whether or not he stays dead is another question altogether, but as far as what we saw, he is dead.

disagree....his eyes were still open.

but yeah for all intents he seems dead....but his fate i meant longterm
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10:54p, 6/14/15
Damn sucks about Jon Snow
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10:55p, 6/14/15
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The red woman finds Thoros, he resurrects Jon, then boom...AA. Only at the end of next season. My guess.
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