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In Bran's dream with the three-eyed crow(BR), the crow asks him if he has any corn. That's a coincidental link between Bloodraven and Mormont's raven which is constantly asking for corn.
Wouldn't all trained ravens, if they could talk, ask their human masters for corn?
This isn't a trained raven. This is the three eyed crow speaking to Bran in a vision. The fact that the three eyed crow asks for the same treat as Mormont's raven is significant. The fact that Mormont's raven asks for corn is not significant by itself. Here, the entity we know to be Bloodraven is communicating with Bran and asks for the same thing that Mormont's raven asks for. Why? GRRM is big on foreshadowing and subtle clues. This is simply one of those.
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When the wight attacked Mormont, the raven started sqwaking "Burn" i.e. exactly what Jon needed to do to kill the wight and save his life. That's huge and can't be explained by simply repeating words.
Bloodraven knows that fire kills wights:
Quote:Jon tried to shout, but his voice was gone. Staggering to his feet, he kicked the arm away and snatched the lamp from the Old Bear's fingers. The flame flickered and almost died. "Burn!" the raven cawed. "Burn, burn, burn!"He says burn after Jon picks up the lamp. Could it be possible that the bird associates flame with the word 'burn?'
It could, but this is a castle in a winter tundra. They have to almost always be using lamps and torches, right? This is the first time the raven says anything about it. Why now? Shouldn't he be squawking on about burning every time someone tries to light one or picks it up? He doesn't. He uses the word here without parroting what anyone said and it just so happens to be the only way to kill the wight. Thats too big of a coincidence imo.
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After Jon has the dream where he is holding a red flaming sword and fighting the undead, he wakes up with the raven on his chest. This implies BR has some connection to the dreams. Dreams have been sent to other characters in this story too, so it isn't that unusual. See Quaithe & Dany. Also, the raven then says Jon's full name and flat out calls him "King."
If Jon is AA reborn, like many believe, he won't ever become a king. Also, one has to first believe the connection b/w the bird and bloodraven to consider this encounter as implication that bloodraven is connected to the dreams. Does bloodraven also control Jon's wolf dreams or Arya's?
Whether or not he sits the iron throne is irrelevant. He is the rightful Targaryan king by blood. Bloodraven knows that and points it out.
With respect to wolf dreams, those seem to be unconscious warging by the Starks and there is no evidence BR is behind it. In the wolf dreams they just run around as wolves. In all likelihood they are just warging in their sleep. The dream I am talking about (and Dany's dream with Quaithe) is chalked full of visions and deeper meaning. It seems that visions can be sent through dreams i.e. the AA dream or Dany's dream with Quaithe. But to imply that BR controls all dreams is a silly attempt to marginalize the argument.
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The Longclaw = Blackfyre theory might not be true, but Mormont's raven having special significance and/or tied to Bloodraven is almost canon. Not even close to "almost canon"
Disagree. I would offer to make a wager with you, loser donates to the 12th man foundation, but there is a danger Martin doesn't finish the books for another 10+ years, if ever.
Regardless, here is some more textual support for you, just to ensure my last couple work days have been some of my least productive, ever:
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Ghost was the only protection Jon needed; the direwolf could sniff out foes, even those who hid their enmity behind sly smiles. Ghost was gone, though. Jon peeled off one black glove, put two fingers in his mouth, and whistled. "Ghost! To me." From above came the sudden sound of wings. Mormont's raven flapped from a limb of an old oak to perch upon Jon's saddle. "Corn, it cried. "*Corn, corn, corn."
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The big white direwolf would not lie still. He paced from one end of the room to the other, past the cold forge and back again. "Easy Ghost," Jon called. "Down. Sit, Ghost. Down." Yet when he made to touch him, the wolf blistered and bared his teeth.It's that bloody boar. Even in here, Ghost can smell his stink. Mormont's raven seemed agitated too. "Snow," the bird kept screaming. "Snow, snow, snow." Jon shooed him off had Satin start a fire, then sent him out after Bowen Marsh and Othell Yarwyk.
The first passage is GRRM foreshadowing the raven's significance to Jon. Martin talks about Ghost as a protector for Jon, then the raven just happens to come to Jon after this little internal dialogue about Ghost being his ally.
The second passage is more of the same. Ghost AND the raven are agitated by Bowen Marsh. Jon doesn't get the warning, and he gets stabbed by Marsh shortly after this, but the fact that both Ghost and the raven are agitated by Jon's proximity to danger indicates Ghost is more than just a wolf and the raven is more than just a raven.