Not realistic,Aggie_3 said:
Ok back to Rangers topics.
Is it realistic to think the Rangers will be willing to go out and truly try and get Cole and possibly Rendon? I know both are the top free agents but both would fill absolute needs for us that we need on this team.
Grapesoda2525 said:Not realistic,Aggie_3 said:
Ok back to Rangers topics.
Is it realistic to think the Rangers will be willing to go out and truly try and get Cole and possibly Rendon? I know both are the top free agents but both would fill absolute needs for us that we need on this team.
Im just hoping we can get some good second tier free agents like maybe Donaldson or moustakas.
I'm not so sure. Dodgers brought Kershaw into an identical situation and he gives up bombs on back to back pitches to the same spot in the Nationals order It's easy to make this argument, but I'm on the side of leaving Grienke in. If you bring in Cole, it's at the start of an inning, not with runners on base.AccidentProne said:
Unreal that Cole never made into that game. What a horrible mistake to not pitch arguably your best pitcher in a high leverage situation
Or maybe we actually evaluate young talent like we did in 2007 and build our team for less money like Tampa and Oakland, then add in a free agent starter and closer. Spending $175M doesn't guarantee anything.Aggie_3 said:Grapesoda2525 said:Not realistic,Aggie_3 said:
Ok back to Rangers topics.
Is it realistic to think the Rangers will be willing to go out and truly try and get Cole and possibly Rendon? I know both are the top free agents but both would fill absolute needs for us that we need on this team.
Im just hoping we can get some good second tier free agents like maybe Donaldson or moustakas.
If AccidentProne is right about the amount t of money we will have to use on Payroll this year I think it could be. Will JD do it that's another question. I believe they are going to try and attract a top Pitcher this offseason to send a message that the only thing keeping the top from choosing the rangers so many times before was the fact we didn't play indoors in the Texas heat
Cole isn't even a possibility, imo. He will be on a west coast team. I guess Rendon is possible, but I doubt we go all in on him either. His price was already high, and went up with his playoff performance. I think we offer Donaldson or Moustakas something in the 2 to 3 year range and hopefully Jung will be ready to go and take over third by the end of the contract.Aggie_3 said:Grapesoda2525 said:Not realistic,Aggie_3 said:
Ok back to Rangers topics.
Is it realistic to think the Rangers will be willing to go out and truly try and get Cole and possibly Rendon? I know both are the top free agents but both would fill absolute needs for us that we need on this team.
Im just hoping we can get some good second tier free agents like maybe Donaldson or moustakas.
If AccidentProne is right about the amount t of money we will have to use on Payroll this year I think it could be. Will JD do it that's another question. I believe they are going to try and attract a top Pitcher this offseason to send a message that the only thing keeping the top from choosing the rangers so many times before was the fact we didn't play indoors in the Texas heat
KT 90 said:Cole isn't even a possibility, imo. He will be on a west coast team. I guess Rendon is possible, but I doubt we go all in on him either. His price was already high, and went up with his playoff performance. I think we offer Donaldson or Moustakas something in the 2 to 3 year range and hopefully Jung will be ready to go and take over third by the end of the contract.Aggie_3 said:Grapesoda2525 said:Not realistic,Aggie_3 said:
Ok back to Rangers topics.
Is it realistic to think the Rangers will be willing to go out and truly try and get Cole and possibly Rendon? I know both are the top free agents but both would fill absolute needs for us that we need on this team.
Im just hoping we can get some good second tier free agents like maybe Donaldson or moustakas.
If AccidentProne is right about the amount t of money we will have to use on Payroll this year I think it could be. Will JD do it that's another question. I believe they are going to try and attract a top Pitcher this offseason to send a message that the only thing keeping the top from choosing the rangers so many times before was the fact we didn't play indoors in the Texas heat
DallasAg 94 said:
If Cole goes West Coast... I'm thinking the Dodgers.
They lose to FA:
Rich Hill (SP)
Ryu (SP)
Russell Martin (C)
About $116M committed to 7 players (Kershaw, Justin Turner, Kenley Jansen, Pollock, Joe Kelly, & Kenta Maeda). Option on Jedd Gyorko.
Their rotation next year:
Kershaw (31): 28 GS, 3.30 ERA, 1.043 WHIP, 178.1 IP
Buehler (24): 30 GS, 3.26 ERA, 1.042 WHIP, 182.1 IP <- Serf
Maeda (31): 26 GS, 4.04 ERA, 1.074 WHIP, in 153.2 IP
Stripling (29): 15 GS, 3.47 ERA, 1.147 WHIP in 90.2 IP <- Arb1
Urias (22): 8 GS, 2.49 ERA, 1.079 WHIP in 79.2 IP. <- Arb1
The Dodgers will likely play the trade game this off-season. They have an abundance of prospects and money, and if they find a player they want, they'll have the ability to get them.
I don't think 25M does it for Cole. He'll be looking for mid 30's I believe. Somebody will pay him. He was the hottest pitcher in baseball (overall) this past year, and is still in his prime.DallasAg 94 said:I agree there is little, if any chance the Rangers get Cole. I don't think the Halos are much of a chance, either. They already have $116M tied up in 6 players for 2020. Add a $25M+ guy like Cole and they commit $141M to 7 players with 18 more players to pay.bigcat22 said:
Agree that there's 0% on signing Cole. He's already on record of saying he wants to go back to the West Cost, no? My guess is that he stays in the AL West and signs with the Angels.
As much as I can't stand the guy, it wouldn't surprise me if we offer Donaldson, he fills an immediate need and fits the profile of temporary players JD likes to sign
They had ONE (1) pitcher over 100 IP, and that was 31 yo Trevor Cahill, with 102.1, 5.98 ERA, 1.466 WHIP.
From an innings perspective, Cole gives them a SP they will desperately need in 2020.
Pujols @39, with his 2019 - .244, 23 HR and $29M salary in 131 GP is going to be a huge deficit @40 in 2020.
If Cole goes there... awesome for the Rangers, because they won't have the money to fill many of their other holes. Some people... like Mike Trout and Felix Hernandez, just don't mind losing and being on losing teams.
DallasAg 94 said:I agree. That is why I had the "+" in there. I don't have any idea how much above $25M, so I used it as budgetary. $30M? $35M? 5... 6 years? He is 28, right?! Prime years. Does he take a discount for years or location?KT 90 said:
I don't think 25M does it for Cole. He'll be looking for mid 30's I believe. Somebody will pay him. He was the hottest pitcher in baseball (overall) this past year, and is still in his prime.
. The west coast teams will pay up, or maybe the Yankees get desperate and throw money at him. He will be cashing in. Boras math doesn't work that way... he'll say 6x$35=$210. or possibly 7x35=245 is what Scotty boy will be looking for, or more. And they'll get it. Top shelf pitchers are hard to come by, somebody will pay up.DallasAg 94 said:By discount... I meant less money per year for additional years. 4X$35M = $140 or 6yrX $30= $180MKT 90 said:DallasAg 94 said:I agree. That is why I had the "+" in there. I don't have any idea how much above $25M, so I used it as budgetary. $30M? $35M? 5... 6 years? He is 28, right?! Prime years. Does he take a discount for years or location?KT 90 said:
I don't think 25M does it for Cole. He'll be looking for mid 30's I believe. Somebody will pay him. He was the hottest pitcher in baseball (overall) this past year, and is still in his prime.
He had a hat on after the game last night we with a logo for Scott Boras' organization, there will be no discounts
Flexbone said:
[We don't let fans of other teams trash up the Astros thread and we aren't going to let you do that to this thread. This is your warning. -Staff]
It's kind of an unspoken rule.lda6339 said:Flexbone said:
[We don't let fans of other teams trash up the Astros thread and we aren't going to let you do that to this thread. This is your warning. -Staff]
Can confirm, I sat in timeout for a day after 1 too many posts in the Astros thread lol
Grapesoda2525 said:It's kind of an unspoken rule.lda6339 said:Flexbone said:
[We don't let fans of other teams trash up the Astros thread and we aren't going to let you do that to this thread. This is your warning. -Staff]
Can confirm, I sat in timeout for a day after 1 too many posts in the Astros thread lol
We don't go to their thread and they don't come to ours. Anyone who crosses the line will get ganged up on and have their head kicked in. For instance, look what just happened to Flexbone. Staff will come in after it's over and hand out bans to the people causing trouble.
The trash talk there is where battles are fought. I'm sure everyone reads the opposite teams thread anyway.
I guess other ranger fans think I trash odor too much, but I don't apologize for disliking bad players and wanting to see them replaced or moved. Anything holding us back from winning or competing should be frowned upon when you are at the highest level of competition.AgBQ-00 said:
As long as you post without being a deuch canoe you should be ok. At least on the Ranger thread. We enjoy discussion. But flame posting and general frickery is frowned upon.
