Oh, and man. Can Stevenson command on screen or what? Pour one out.

THIRTEEN!

Visually it was very well done.

It's too wonky for non Star Wars uber nerds to know what is being referenced for the most part.

The acting and dialogue ranged from mediocre, to flat, to really bad.

Rosario Dawson remains one of the hottest women in Hollywood.

Ray was great. Always a fan. But Ray was the white guy bad guy. And the rest of the white guys were crusty old white guys of on screen impotence. Predictable.

All of the focus, fighting, and importance was completely thrust upon the female cast. Another Kathleen Kennedy effort.

Not sorry. This will fail. Disney has lost the young male audience and Star Wars cannot survive without it. Asked my teenage sons if they were going to watch it this week and they lol'd, didn't even know it existed.

Disney is completely incapable of learning at this point. This series will be a failure. Newsflash, young ladies are not in to this either.

Flame away. I tried.

First of all, how cool is that everyone can finally fully discuss an episode of a Star Wars series in prime time, immediately after it airs?

As for the show itself, so far I'd put it above all three seasons of The Mandalorian, way above The Book of Boba Fett, but still a significant notch under Andor. I like Filoni, and he obviously knows Star Wars better than anyone, but he's still not quite a great, or even consistently good filmmaker just yet. Mainly, he needs to learn to write/direct with a bit more urgency and a bit less stoicism. Yes, the pacing was slow at first (which I honestly didn't mind), but IMO, more than that it's his scene work that's a pitch slower than it should be. There's just way too much silence between awkward, clunky lines of dialogue, gazing, contemplation, etc. I almost wish Filoni and JJ Abrams could somehow meld into one person; merge Filoni's knowledge, story sense, and steady hand with Abrams' energy, pacing, and cinematography/camera movement. Then we'd really have something.

Overall, though, I definitely dug it. In addition to the great, Raiders-esque Ahsoka intro, speaking of Abrams, I got distinct Star Trek '09 vibes from Sabine's fantastic intro. It felt very much akin to Kirk's Beastie Boys intro as a kid, which I've always loved. I really enjoyed the the whole setup, and for the most part everything else was engaging/entertaining too. Could it have been better? Sure. But right now it at least earned a sigh of relief that it won't be venturing into clunky, meandering, kid-aimed Mando/BOBF territory.

Urban Ag said:

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Visually it was very well done.

It's too wonky for non Star Wars uber nerds to know what is being referenced for the most part.

The acting and dialogue ranged from mediocre, to flat, to really bad.

Rosario Dawson remains one of the hottest women in Hollywood.

Ray was great. Always a fan. But Ray was the white guy bad guy. And the rest of the white guys were crusty old white guys of on screen impotence. Predictable.

All of the focus, fighting, and importance was completely thrust upon the female cast. Another Kathleen Kennedy effort.

Neither of these things once crossed my mind. I swear, how some of you choose to see the world/watch your entertainment will never not be the saddest, weirdest thing to me. On the bright side, at least you got to whine about it on the internet again.

Seriously, though, why is the latter bad? Why is it so wrong that *one* of the six seasons of Star Wars television so far is devoted more to females than males? As a brand, why would you not want to attempt to diversify your audience? Granted, whether they succeed or not is another story, but being endlessly, vocally annoyed at them for trying is so odd.

Not sorry. This will fail. Disney has lost the young male audience and Star Wars cannot survive without it. Asked my teenage sons if they were going to watch it this week and they lol'd, didn't even know it existed.

Great! Then your sons can watch any of the other dozens of Star Wars shows and movies aimed at teenage boys. Good thing there's a ridiculous bounty to choose from, starting in 1977 all the way up to earlier this year.

Disney is completely incapable of learning at this point. This series will be a failure. Newsflash, young ladies are not in to this either.

Learning what, exactly? That for some insane reason grown ass men are going to throw fits on the internet about the fact that Star Wars is trying to branch out and appeal to more demographics than just boys?

Flame away. I tried.

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I liked the first episode of #Ahsoka but do you have to keep rubbing it in Qui-Gon’s face like that? pic.twitter.com/DJ7J8X42id

— Marc Fernandez (@MarcFernandez) August 23, 2023

I like how Dave makes it plain that a gut stab wound does not kill you anymore. Meanwhile my boy Qui-Gon is a Force Ghost pissed off like this#AhsokaTano #Ahsoka pic.twitter.com/p9v1kRvSqO

— Flows (@FlowsAndolini) August 23, 2023

Qui-gon watching the first two episodes of Ahsoka seeing medical treatment for lightsaber wounds being used on Sabine and some New Republic troops #Ahsoka pic.twitter.com/50rPbDzyYb

— Alex From Florida 🐊 (@floridian_alex) August 23, 2023

Force Ghost Qui-Gon Jinn seeing Sabine Wren survive a lightsaber stab wound through the stomach in #Ahsokapic.twitter.com/CNiUOtPEiw

— BLURAYANGEL 🦇 (@blurayangel) August 23, 2023

Qui-Gon Jinn watching Sabine get stabbed by a lightsaber and live#Ahsoka #AhsokaTano #Sabine #StarWars pic.twitter.com/6MpajRYOT2

— Tyler Calvert (@ItsTylerCalvert) August 23, 2023

Man, I almost made a "in before someone complains about this show having too many girls!" post last night but held off.

Imagine being so blind to your prejudices that you give yourself a pat on the back "I tried!" as you decide you don't like a show because of those specific hangups.

I think Sabine survived where Qui-gon died because she had an old school, bacta tank using, robot hand attaching med droid instead of the crap they have on Naboo that gives up when people "lose the will to live."

My 8 year old son, and my 5 year old daughter, who both loved Mandalorian, and Boba Fett (and all of the other major Star Wars films), both saw the previews for Ahsoka, and said "What? Is this like a girl Star Wars?" (That came from my daughter). Neither were interested. We gave it a try last night though and within 10 minutes both were fighting over the Nintendo Switch. I took that away and they watched for about 5 more minutes, and then asked if they could go to bed...first time in history!

No Jon Favreau = SUCKS as far as Star Wars extensions. That was absolutely horrible. Try starting the original Star Wars with an almost all female cast, and see how far that goes. In addition, the look and feel of it was way more Star Trek, than Star Wars. To the people that are saying they missed the mark on their target audience, they are spot on.

So, thanks Disney for making an adult and adolescent sleep aid.

I don't think 5 and 8 year olds are the target audience here.

They like Mando because it is incredibly dumb fun. It had some horrific writing and filler last season but kids don't notice that.

This felt more adult like Andor and it was way better.

Sabine became a lothcat lady.

jeffk said:

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Sabine became a lothcat lady.

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A really hot lothcat lady though

Sq1dvm said:

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I think Sabine survived where Qui-gon died because she had an old school, bacta tank using, robot hand attaching med droid instead of the crap they have on Naboo that gives up when people "lose the will to live."

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Well, not getting stabbed in the middle of the chest probably helped.

I seriously do not get how some of you aren't embarrassed, or at least aren't more self aware, as to how ridiculous you sound, as grown ass men, when you throw tantrums on the internet in the most cliched way imaginable about not everything in Star Wars catering to your specific gender, or the gender/ages of your specific children. It's both hilarious, and flat out sad, that this is what sets you off. When most normal people either don't give a sh*t, because who cares if Lucasfilm devotes, like, ten percent of their output to trying to appeal to girls - or - because we're, for the most part, well-adjusted, empathetic human beings who can relate to the plights of characters despite us having d*cks when they don't.

What a ridiculously fragile way to live.

Shocked and outraged that this series named after a female SW character contains females.

I enjoyed it. The person I watched it with (casual star wars fan, never seen Rebels) was bored.

The biggest issue is that it feels like the characters aren't actually in the same room when they are talking to each other in scenes. And it seems like there is a delay between each line where each character has to show you first what they are feeling before responding. It makes the exposition scenes feel more drawn out than they need to be, imo. It's the pilot episodes though, so maybe this improves as the show continues.

It feels like a natural continuation of Rebels, and I will continue watching. Dawson is great at everything in the show.

Glad to see David Tennant return as Huyang.

Meanwhile 91% audience score on RT and 8.6/8.7 on IMDb for the first 2 episodes which is really good.

Guess most people aren't in the same demographic as a 5 year old.

jeffk said:

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Shocked and outraged that this series named after a female SW character contains females.

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The only remaining characters from a team of 5, which included a strong male adult who sacrificed himself to save the team, a strong male teen who saved his planet by capturing the (wait for it) male antagonist and a male alien comic relief/muscle who is currently off world.