Coming from you this is impressive. Haven't you been resurrected a LOT?Duncan Idaho said:
i feel like I've been down this path before
bravo, sir.Brennus said:Coming from you this is impressive. Haven't you been resurrected a LOT?Duncan Idaho said:
i feel like I've been down this path before
and you for the setup.Duncan Idaho said:
i feel like I've been down this path before
GiveEmHellBill said:
Off-topic yet on-topic:
After seeing the documentary, I would love to see a film version of Jodorosky's Dune. It sounded utterly bizarre yet fascinating.
policywonk98 said:
So difficult to adapt arguably the best written sci-fi novel of all time. Even if that's too subjective, its the best selling Sci-Fi novel of all time. I guess if you can successfully adapt LOTR you can Dune. But I would not consider the 84 film or mini-series successful adaptations.
I agree with everything you just wrote. Jodorosky's Dune was an interesting documentary, and I appreciate his dedication, but it didn't really seem like the kind of thing I'd enjoy personally.AliasMan02 said:GiveEmHellBill said:
Off-topic yet on-topic:
After seeing the documentary, I would love to see a film version of Jodorosky's Dune. It sounded utterly bizarre yet fascinating.
I get that his vision was inspiring to a lot of people, but after watching that doc, I can say 100 percent that movie would have sucked.
Dune is my favorite book. Frank Herbert is one of my creative heroes. But... the biggest problem with doing a film series is that the source material goes way off the rails very fast. WAY off the rails, VERY fast. Like, clone Duncan Idahos trying over and over again to kill his omnipotent man-god who turned himself into a worm.
To do it right, the original book would need to be cut into pieces and the story told like a two (or maybe three) part epic. Film it all at once and release it in consecutive years or something.
Film one would be House Atreides gaining and losing Arrakis. Probably end with Paul's duel with Jamis and subsequent naming, which for the first time confirms that he had true prescience. Puts a nice bow on it.
Film two would pick up two years later with Paul as the Fremen warlord leading his assault on the Imperial and Harkonnen forces along with his plans to reform the planet, and end with the assault on Arakeen and the duel with Feyd, and ultimately Paul's installation as Emperor.
Any films beyond that could utilize the books somewhat, but the further you went, the more you'd have to deviate and create a new story. Living gods make poor protagonists.
AliasMan02 said:GiveEmHellBill said:
Off-topic yet on-topic:
After seeing the documentary, I would love to see a film version of Jodorosky's Dune. It sounded utterly bizarre yet fascinating.
I get that his vision was inspiring to a lot of people, but after watching that doc, I can say 100 percent that movie would have sucked.
RPM said:
I love Dune.
I love the 1984 movie for different reasons.
I try to think of the movie as in interpretation by some Ixian historian (Bronso?) of the real story (Herbert's novels). The movie is cheesy AF at times but was incredible for 1984. Not all scifi could match up to Star Wars and Star Trek- budget-wise-in the early 80s.
As a Dune purist, I'm not sure I am willing to give any new movies a shot for two main reason:
1. Dune is a terribly hard story to do visually. The characters are complicated and have lots of internal dialogue going on, which does not translate entirely well when you do it onscreen. Written words do a much better job at Third person omniscient point of view than film.
2. Brian Herbert is attached as executive producer. Being cynical, I believe he has been trying to jumpstart a film/TV rights deal for YEARS since he has vomited so much crap Dune prequel nonsense. His books are TERRIBLE. There's no doubt he will weave all the prequel garbage into any new films in order to legitimize his contributions to the "Dune-iverse."
I am just fine with rereading Dune over and over and never seeing a new movie made.
I see what you did there.israeliag said:
Also, Sean Bean would have to be cast as Duke Leto.
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Paul is the toughest casting. He's supposed to be 15, but I think you'd certainly cast him older and maybe even make his character more like 18 due to the adult nature of his role and associations. He takes lovers and has kids and ritualistically kills and makes drums or of the skins of his enemies, after all. I think you'd need an unknown. Would need tons of range.
Maybe it should be Rickon, oh wait if he can't zigzag from an arrow he can't walk without pattern.TX AG 88 said:Quote:
Paul is the toughest casting. He's supposed to be 15, but I think you'd certainly cast him older and maybe even make his character more like 18 due to the adult nature of his role and associations. He takes lovers and has kids and ritualistically kills and makes drums or of the skins of his enemies, after all. I think you'd need an unknown. Would need tons of range.
too bad the kid that played Joffrey on GOT retired from acting. Would be great to see him as a protagonist. He was so good as a villan!
NICEBrennus said:
Maybe it should be Rickon, oh wait if he can't zigzag from an arrow he can't walk without pattern.
I had never heard that about Jack Gleeson (joffrey). Google tells me he has changed his mind about that.TX AG 88 said:Quote:
Paul is the toughest casting. He's supposed to be 15, but I think you'd certainly cast him older and maybe even make his character more like 18 due to the adult nature of his role and associations. He takes lovers and has kids and ritualistically kills and makes drums or of the skins of his enemies, after all. I think you'd need an unknown. Would need tons of range.
too bad the kid that played Joffrey on GOT retired from acting. Would be great to see him as a protagonist. He was so good as a villan!
israeliag said:
I'd cast rachel Weisz in the role of Jessica.
GiveEmHellBill said:
Off-topic yet on-topic:
After seeing the documentary, I would love to see a film version of Jodorosky's Dune. It sounded utterly bizarre yet fascinating.