Yeah, I missed him the first time. I only caught him the second time by recognizing Skarsgaard's voice. The shot of his face was so fast and hazy you would have no clue. I still only found the one shot and that was unrecognizable as the Baron.Duncan Idaho said:
The baron is in there twice
Mathguy64 said:
To be fair, if you know the source material you can tell that the trailer really hits the look and tone of the characters. But you have to know the source material. If you have never read the book it was just random snippets of unconnected shots. They gave nothing of the story away in those 3 minutes. You couldn't tell who any of the characters were or what they have to do with any part of the story. You don't see Baron Harkonnen, Feyd or even the Emperor. No Thufir.
That trailer was made for the fans of the book, not for the general moviegoer.
C@LAg said:my problem is that Chalamet just has no charisma whatsoever in the trailer.Max Power said:
My main concern with Chalamet was whether
I hope it is just that they cut it that way to give it an overall tone... but he was mostly monotone with minimal facial expressions, in spite of everything else that was going on.
everything else looks rock solid, he just comes off as... bland.
YouBet said:C@LAg said:my problem is that Chalamet just has no charisma whatsoever in the trailer.Max Power said:
My main concern with Chalamet was whether
I hope it is just that they cut it that way to give it an overall tone... but he was mostly monotone with minimal facial expressions, in spite of everything else that was going on.
everything else looks rock solid, he just comes off as... bland.
May be irrelevant at this point, but Kyle Maclachlan was the same way in the Lynch movie.
In Jedi Academy they straight up rip off Dune in one of the mission levels.Render said:
Now I know where Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast got it's idea for Kyle Katarn's personal energy shield.
DubFalls said:YouBet said:C@LAg said:my problem is that Chalamet just has no charisma whatsoever in the trailer.Max Power said:
My main concern with Chalamet was whether
I hope it is just that they cut it that way to give it an overall tone... but he was mostly monotone with minimal facial expressions, in spite of everything else that was going on.
everything else looks rock solid, he just comes off as... bland.
May be irrelevant at this point, but Kyle Maclachlan was the same way in the Lynch movie.
I think it lines up with the Mental/Bene Gesserit training where the human mind is turned into a type of computer completely in control of emotion.
I wonder if it was an influence for Spock?
The Emperor and another major "bad" character are not listed anywhere in the IMDB cast listing and the director has said it's split into 2 movies so they don't have to sacrifice any of the story.RichardSplet said:
Is the emperor supposed to appear in this movie or is he only in the second half of the book?
MuckRaker96 said:The Emperor and another major "bad" character are not listed anywhere in the IMDB cast listing and the director has said it's split into 2 movies so they don't have to sacrifice any of the story.RichardSplet said:
Is the emperor supposed to appear in this movie or is he only in the second half of the book?
The end of the book seems really fast to me after hundreds of pages of methodical, but interesting, things happening in the desert. Interesting to see what all they do to balance them out.
Reminds me of this, and now I want to see a Dune 2020 VHS intro:MuckRaker96 said:I took a stab at a more "Hollywood / General Audience" song for the trailer. Interested in you guys' opinion.TCTTS said:
As for the music, I respect the choice, and understand its significance/what they're going for, but agree that it doesn't quite work here. It's the kind of choice you'd find in a third or fourth trailer that's dropped like a week before the film's release - not in the first trailer meant to (re)introduce this franchise to the world.
Everything is better with music/themes from the 1980sSpreadsheetAg said:Reminds me of this, and now I want to see a Dune 2020 VHS intro:MuckRaker96 said:I took a stab at a more "Hollywood / General Audience" song for the trailer. Interested in you guys' opinion.TCTTS said:
As for the music, I respect the choice, and understand its significance/what they're going for, but agree that it doesn't quite work here. It's the kind of choice you'd find in a third or fourth trailer that's dropped like a week before the film's release - not in the first trailer meant to (re)introduce this franchise to the world.
im super curious to see the interpretation of a guild navigator. I don't know what the folks who haven't read dune even know about navigators so I won't post a pic (from previous movies) in case people don't want that concept spoiled but it could be the hardest thing to nail in this movie.Sarduakar said:
And the other look i am waiting for is a guild navaigator.
There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
I think they reference them, but they don't describe them. They do describe the navigators in detail in Dune Messiah though. After finally reading Dune recently and rewatching the Lynch movie on HBO it's pretty easy to see how Villeneuve won't be making an identical film to Lynch, there's a lot of room to be more faithful to the original book alone. Lots of things on screen that weren't in the book, maybe they're in future books, but definitely not the first one.MuckRaker96 said:There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.Max Power said:I think they reference them, but they don't describe them. They do describe the navigators in detail in Dune Messiah though. After finally reading Dune recently and rewatching the Lynch movie on HBO it's pretty easy to see how Villeneuve won't be making an identical film to Lynch, there's a lot of room to be more faithful to the original book alone. Lots of things on screen that weren't in the book, maybe they're in future books, but definitely not the first one.MuckRaker96 said:There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
ag88man said:I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.Max Power said:I think they reference them, but they don't describe them. They do describe the navigators in detail in Dune Messiah though. After finally reading Dune recently and rewatching the Lynch movie on HBO it's pretty easy to see how Villeneuve won't be making an identical film to Lynch, there's a lot of room to be more faithful to the original book alone. Lots of things on screen that weren't in the book, maybe they're in future books, but definitely not the first one.MuckRaker96 said:There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
I think the Guild representatives are not Navigators. They are just normal spice-addicted humans. Probably addicted because of their close interaction with the Navigators or because they only got partially through the testing/training to be a Navigator.ag88man said:Max Power said:MuckRaker96 said:Duncan I said:
I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.
1980s Jane Badler. Wood.YouBet said:ag88man said:I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.Max Power said:I think they reference them, but they don't describe them. They do describe the navigators in detail in Dune Messiah though. After finally reading Dune recently and rewatching the Lynch movie on HBO it's pretty easy to see how Villeneuve won't be making an identical film to Lynch, there's a lot of room to be more faithful to the original book alone. Lots of things on screen that weren't in the book, maybe they're in future books, but definitely not the first one.MuckRaker96 said:There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
TrustTheAwesomeness said:I think the Guild representatives are not Navigators. They are just normal spice-addicted humans. Probably addicted because of their close interaction with the Navigators or because they only got partially through the testing/training to be a Navigator.ag88man said:Max Power said:MuckRaker96 said:Duncan I said:
I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.
MuckRaker96 said:1980s Jane Badler. Wood.YouBet said:ag88man said:I think two Guild representatives are in the end of the first book, but they only describe them as a taller one and a shorter one. Also, if I remember correctly, one of their contacts slip and the true nature of their eyes is revealed to Paul. I don't know if they are considered navigators or not.Max Power said:I think they reference them, but they don't describe them. They do describe the navigators in detail in Dune Messiah though. After finally reading Dune recently and rewatching the Lynch movie on HBO it's pretty easy to see how Villeneuve won't be making an identical film to Lynch, there's a lot of room to be more faithful to the original book alone. Lots of things on screen that weren't in the book, maybe they're in future books, but definitely not the first one.MuckRaker96 said:There are 2 navigators from the guild near the end of the novel when Paul confronts the emperor and fights the Harkonnenn championDuncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
C@LAg said:my problem is that Chalamet just has no charisma whatsoever in the trailer.Max Power said:
My main concern with Chalamet was whether
I hope it is just that they cut it that way to give it an overall tone... but he was mostly monotone with minimal facial expressions, in spite of everything else that was going on.
everything else looks rock solid, he just comes off as... bland.
Duncan Idaho said:
The idea of getting the navigators right is so daunting that I am not sure I would even try.
There is no reason for them to be on screen for Dune. If I remember right, one isn't even seen by another character until Children of Dune
Wow ...Cromagnum said:
We have come a long way graphically. Now I know where Minecraft came from.
People confused how good the book is with the quality of the movie.MuckRaker96 said:Wow ...Cromagnum said:
We have come a long way graphically. Now I know where Minecraft came from.
That is horrifying.
I was told during the 1980s movie tournament that this is better than The Terminator?
Damn, Rebecca Ferguson is visually strikingBrian Earl Spilner said:
Great watch.
