If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
***DUNE*** (Denis Villeneuve)
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You're not wrong. I read the first two and they were so...bad. Couldn't make myself read the others.Duncan Idaho said:
If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
jenn96 said:You're not wrong. I read the first two and they were so...bad. Couldn't make myself read the others.Duncan Idaho said:
If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
Not to derail too much but… I'm kind of glad George R. R. Martin doesn't have kids for this reason. Maybe a competent writer will pick up his notes and finish that series after he passes…
jenn96 said:You're not wrong. I read the first two and they were so...bad. Couldn't make myself read the others.Duncan Idaho said:
If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
You mean the Butlerian jihad being fought against giant cyberborgs that enslaved the rest of humanity didn't seem like something Frank would have written?
If there's any industry I just can't see nepotism working in it is writing.
this is spot on.Duncan Idaho said:
If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
I could sure go for some slig medallions marinated in a
Caladanian wine sauce right now.
Nope. And if he had, it wouldn't have been written with all of the literary grace and style of an overly earnest undergrad project. The combo of bad writing + bad plot + unnecessary shoehorning in every possible character backstory ever alluded to in the (real) Dune books was a beating I could not overcome.Duncan Idaho said:jenn96 said:You're not wrong. I read the first two and they were so...bad. Couldn't make myself read the others.Duncan Idaho said:
If I tried to layout the high points of the son's books, you would think I was trolling.
You mean the Butlerian jihad being fought against giant cyberborgs that enslaved the rest of humanity didn't seem like something Frank would have written?
I think the dune BH/KJA novels were the final stop in my journey to cynicism. That storyline wrapped up in the late 2000s. For years I would read anything in the franchises I followed. Dune. Star Wars. WoT (thankfully this one made me suspect the author only wanted to keep me hanging on just to sell me thousands more to read, never finished).
Just wikied some apparently recent crap from them they shat out on the extended Dune universe. Nope.
Even Tolkien realized that when a story arc is done, it should be put to bed.
MM articulated the scam best in WoWS. Who cares about the thing, just keep people continuing to put money into it.
Just wikied some apparently recent crap from them they shat out on the extended Dune universe. Nope.
Even Tolkien realized that when a story arc is done, it should be put to bed.
MM articulated the scam best in WoWS. Who cares about the thing, just keep people continuing to put money into it.
All of the Herbert sons books I read were prequels.
Has he now done books post Dune?
Has he now done books post Dune?
yes, those assclowns wrote novels after chapterhouse and during the original Paul timeline, pre-prequels and a bunch of other garbage.YouBet said:
All of the Herbert sons books I read were prequels.
Has he now done books post Dune?
Great feature by @StephenPKelly about Denis Villeneuve, in which he talks to @deakinsarchives: https://t.co/VNP8QpLIMv
— Fiona Macdonald BBC (@FionaSMac) October 12, 2021
We gonna start a 10 day count down or what?
Just finished the first book for the first time. Immediately ordered Dune Messiah. Just awesome.
It'll be interesting to see if/where they take the second movie. The tone definitely shifted more than I was expecting to after a certain event.
It'll be interesting to see if/where they take the second movie. The tone definitely shifted more than I was expecting to after a certain event.
1. The scale of this film is otherworldly. It’s a pure cinema experience that demands to be seen (at least once) on the biggest possible screen with the best possible sound system. To experience it any other way is to deny yourself the pleasure of something truly special. 2/4
— Bill Hunt (@BillHuntBits) October 12, 2021
That’s it. Take off your cynic cap, don’t worry about reading the book, don’t let others tell you what to think, and no: HBO Max is not good enough. This is exquisite sci-fi filmmaking on a grand scale—the kind of movie that comes around once a decade. Soak in every minute. 4/4
— Bill Hunt (@BillHuntBits) October 12, 2021
Best Picture nomination. Book it.
One week from tonight.
remember that dune is, first and foremost, the story of pugs in space pic.twitter.com/0nvNcMijWX
— John DeVore (@JohnDeVore) October 15, 2021
Saw it this afternoon in IMAX over here in Okinawa - solid thumbs up from me and my wife (who had no idea what she was getting into). There is a ton of story covered but it never feels rushed, though it is anxiety-inducing several times. Legitimately epic - story, direction, cinematography, score - awesome.
Awesome!
So great to hear, and thanks for sharing.
So great to hear, and thanks for sharing.
I loved Okinawa. Spent a bunch of time down in naha.
A week ahead because of the international date line?
Y'all have probably already seen this, but man this trailer has me stoked. I just finished the book. Can't wait to devour the rest of the series.
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Will it top Addams Family Values as the best movie I've seen this month?
There is no way its better than that all-time cinema classic.helloimustbegoing said:
Will it top Addams Family Values as the best movie I've seen this month?
Going to see this 10/28, can't wait! Been waiting too damn long.
Not much advance ticket buying in my area. Here's the current availability in the theater I'll be in on Thursday at 6 pm.
Just saw my first negative review of it. The reasoning was that a fantasy Sci-fi movie set 20,000 years in the future has a message that it's ok to be a dictator in 2021. How dare Frank Herbert.
https://news.yahoo.com/dune-shouldve-less-dune-y-180110201.html
https://news.yahoo.com/dune-shouldve-less-dune-y-180110201.html
Well that is certainly one take
Lol I know right?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
Champ Bailey said:
Lol I know right?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
Yes. Although he did mess around with women earlier in his life as I was shocked to remember a pretty significant plot point I had forgotten about.
YouBet said:Champ Bailey said:
Lol I know right?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
Yes. Although he did mess around with women earlier in his life as I was shocked to remember a pretty significant plot point I had forgotten about.
. Yeah. That whole concubine and forced pairing of bloodlines and breeding by the Bene Gesserit plot point. That would go over like a lead balloon today. If they come anywhere close to that part I will be shocked.
if they don't go to that point, the whole story just falls apart. but sure, a few years after an incest driven narative focused on bloodlines and breeding was the biggest thing in popular culture, people are going to shy away from it in dune.Mathguy64 said:YouBet said:Champ Bailey said:
Lol I know right?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
Yes. Although he did mess around with women earlier in his life as I was shocked to remember a pretty significant plot point I had forgotten about.
. Yeah. That whole concubine and forced pairing of bloodlines and breeding by the Bene Gesserit plot point. That would go over like a lead balloon today. If they come anywhere close to that part I will be shocked.
The point of Harkonnen's depravity isn't really about attraction to underage boys. It's the fact that he buys people, rapes and tortures them, and then disposes of them like garbage. He could be an equal opportunity rapist and killer and it would serve the story almost as well, although I think in the book (and almost certainly in the '84 movie), he was attracted to Feyd, which added another layer onto things.Champ Bailey said:
Lol I know right?
my favorite part is when the writer breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't use Herbert's homophobic writings about Baron Harkonnen. Wasn't his attraction in the books solely towards underage boys?
I think the lynch movie showed this part of his personality effectively. Not perfectly but effectively
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