That seems like an odd/large space for a Trader Joes.
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I don't know..there is one in Houston inside the loop in an old theater that is pretty big (and really cool!) I think that would be a great location for TJ - that area needs another grocery store.
The Trader Joe's is 12,000 square feet. The Kroger is about 45,000 square feet (if I recall correctly, I don't have the PDF in front of me). And let's not get started on the demographics.Kbeauty63 said:
I don't know..there is one in Houston inside the loop in an old theater that is pretty big (and really cool!) I think that would be a great location for TJ - that area needs another grocery store.
It's not coming to that location unless there was some sort of incentive like not paying taxes on the space for years.
Rapier108 said:
Looks like all Stripes and Sunoco stores will become 7-Elevens.
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/retail/2017/04/06/7-eleven-buys-1110-stores-sunoco-33-billion-deal
Cool, if they don't touch the former Chicks there at the highway, we could have the distinction of the largest 7-Eleven in the world.
That one is in an "advantaged" part of Houston, unlike the old Kroger's by SW Pkwy/Texas which is more of a disadvantaged part of town.Kbeauty63 said:
I don't know..there is one in Houston inside the loop in an old theater that is pretty big (and really cool!) I think that would be a great location for TJ - that area needs another grocery store.
I don't see that neighborhood demographic supporting a Trader Joes
Around campus would be best given demographics. Considering all the student housing coming online it has a rather dense population footprint.
If there was a Trader Joe's in town, there would only be three places where I can see it realistically succeeding:Cyp0111 said:
Around campus would be best given demographics. Considering all the student housing coming online it has a rather dense population footprint.
1) Century Square
2) Atlas
3) That undeveloped space behind the restaurants at University and Tarrow
A distant fourth would be Caprock Crossing but not until it reaches critical mass with more southern development.
So you are saying it would succeed in Atlas but not south College Station?
Kind of like the old Appletree on Texas at Harvey...we now have the technology to erect walls inside, so they could reconfigure the space.PS3D said:The Trader Joe's is 12,000 square feet. The Kroger is about 45,000 square feet (if I recall correctly, I don't have the PDF in front of me)...Kbeauty63 said:
I don't know..there is one in Houston inside the loop in an old theater that is pretty big (and really cool!) I think that would be a great location for TJ - that area needs another grocery store.
I'm not saying that a TJ is going in there, just that comparing current configured square footage with what they would typically use probably wouldn't as big of a deal.
I think the only area even remotely in consideration would be Century Square.
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I think the only area even remotely in consideration would be Century Square.
In your unbiased opinion, is Century Square the single greatest development ever conceived by God or man?
To me Century Square looks like a nightmare that I will never want to get close to. I'll stick with South College Station.
I think it is going to be amazing and cannot wait for it to go live.armymom said:
To me Century Square looks like a nightmare that I will never want to get close to. I'll stick with South College Station.
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I think it will be both a nightmare and amazing. On the plus side, it will cull traffic elsewhere.
Given College Stations propensity for Katy level strip mall development, yes, it's the first worthwhile development in the history of college station. Everything else is suburban ghetto.
Finally stopped by The Remnant From Nawlins on the way home from work. Very good food
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I think it's going to be very nice but will take many years to realize its potential. I also think locals will be very wary of going there because of its proximity to Northgate and campus.
With the new PetSmart having opened up in south CS, I have very few reasons to ever drive down University given how busy it is all the time. Especially the University/Texas intersection
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My point exactly. To boot, rent for Porter's Steakhouse for example will be probably $22k-$30k/month. College Station simply doesn't support those numbers.
weary before it even opens?australopithecus robustus said:
I think it's going to be very nice but will take many years to realize its potential. I also think locals will be very weary of going there because of its proximity to Northgate and campus.
OR wary?
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Haha correct. Thanks. Got that edited
It will be interesting to see. I do agree porters price point will be challenging for day to day.
Tried the Tipsy Bean tonight! Excellent wines and cheese! We will definitely be back to try the coffee. Thanks for opening a great place in the south!
did they have any of a beer selection for those who are with people drinking wine and do not care for it?
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I think the only area even remotely in consideration would be Century Square.
I see Century Square as more of a lodging/entertainment/dining spot instead of a destination to buy groceries.
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did they have any of a beer selection for those who are with people drinking wine and do not care for it?
Yes. Someone posted a pic on Yelp of their craft beer selection.
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Given College Stations propensity for Katy level strip mall development, yes, it's the first worthwhile development in the history of college station. Everything else is suburban ghetto.
WTF do you expect them to build? College station is a suburban city without a downtown. It's history is in old school country taverns. Do you expect them to build skyscrapers? You're never going to get an inner city feel in a small town. Don't like it? Move.
Residents on this board ***** every year about the lack of upscale and fancy development. Now you get stuff that fits with the city demographics and it's all just "suburban trash". Give me a break.
Everybody stop asking for nice things!
I think he was referring to the William Fitch area as "suburban ghetto" as opposed to Century Square which is a bit more of an upscale and interesting development. I could be wrong though.mazag08 said:Cyp0111 said:
Given College Stations propensity for Katy level strip mall development, yes, it's the first worthwhile development in the history of college station. Everything else is suburban ghetto.
WTF do you expect them to build? College station is a suburban city without a downtown. It's history is in old school country taverns. Do you expect them to build skyscrapers? You're never going to get an inner city feel in a small town. Don't like it? Move.
Residents on this board ***** every year about the lack of upscale and fancy development. Now you get stuff that fits with the city demographics and it's all just "suburban trash". Give me a break.
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mazag08 said:
WTF do you expect them to build? College station is a suburban city without a downtown. It's history is in old school country taverns. Do you expect them to build skyscrapers? You're never going to get an inner city feel in a small town. Don't like it? Move.
Visit Ann Arbor, Michigan, to see a college town of a similar size that has far better variety and quality of shopping, restaurants, etc. Bryan and College Station together are actually larger than Ann Arbor by quite a bit, yet we seem to be stuck in chicken strip/drive-up bank/nail shop/pizza delivery/cheap-hair-salon hell except for a few bright spots here and there.
Ann Arbor, with a population of roughly 117,000, manages to have things like a vibrant restaurant scene, a massive children's museum, great chain options like P.F. Changs, etc.
What do I expect? I'd be happy with something even half as good as Ann Arbor.
Isn't Ann Arbor actually a suburb of Detroit?
About as much as College Station is a suburb of Houston. Ann Arbor is a bit closer to Detroit than we are to Houston, but it isn't like people in Detroit are flocking to Ann Arbor to go out to eat. The dining scene there is local.AGnCS said:
Isn't Ann Arbor actually a suburb of Detroit?
AA is a good town but part of a larger Metro which allows some retailers to stretch. AA has done a fanstastic job of creating a unique city feel in a small town.
My comments were not against Century Square, its against development in BCS as a whole, which, to date, requires a mattress store, nail salon, phone store and chicken finger joint to be developed.
The city as a whole has done a terrible job of ushering in sustainable, development that creates any resemblance of a community. Hence the suburban ghetto comment.
I'm hoping Century Square provides the impetus for a true urbanized development. Granted, many townies on this thread freak out at the thought of a 10-15 min commute which does create issues.
My comments were not against Century Square, its against development in BCS as a whole, which, to date, requires a mattress store, nail salon, phone store and chicken finger joint to be developed.
The city as a whole has done a terrible job of ushering in sustainable, development that creates any resemblance of a community. Hence the suburban ghetto comment.
I'm hoping Century Square provides the impetus for a true urbanized development. Granted, many townies on this thread freak out at the thought of a 10-15 min commute which does create issues.
Don't forget that this community is very conservative and against spending any kind of tax dollars on that kind of thing. Plus it helps to have access to an interstate which AA seems to be surrounded by.Quote:
The city as a whole has done a terrible job of ushering in sustainable, development that creates any resemblance of a community
The downtown area is pretty well integrated with the campus, and to be fair, CS has sunk a lot of money into Northgate with mixed results.AGnCS said:Don't forget that this community is very conservative and against spending any kind of tax dollars on that kind of thing. Plus it helps to have access to an interstate which AA seems to be surrounded by.Quote:
The city as a whole has done a terrible job of ushering in sustainable, development that creates any resemblance of a community