I will say I made fun of Aquaman for no reason other than it was the popular thing to do. I have recently started to read the New 52 story for him and I really enjoy him now and could not be happier to see Momoa take the role. Hopefully the story is right though because I agree with swimmer that it might be hard for a big screen adaptation.

He has no credibility, but he should. He can do some crazy ****

So many of us grew up on the incarnations of the Superfriends cartoons where unless they were specifically going underwater, Aquaman was just hanging out at the Hall of Justice in costume monitoring stuff on the computer.

My boyfriend and I just finished up arguing about whether or not anything from Superfriends actually counted as real.

I say that it is not real, it is just a hanna barbera spinoff kiddy thing.

I think the general concept of Aquaman is incredibly stupid. And I just don't see how they're going to introduce a believable underwater civilization in the world established by Man of Steel.

That said, if you're gonna go for it, Moama actually seems like the perfect fit. The traditional, blonde surfer look feels so outdated. Moama definitely fits the more modern, Hawaiian/granola/meditative beach vibe that is seemingly more en vogue/prominent today. I see way more guys surfing out here who fit that general description than the stereotypical blonde/Californian type. Moama's just a super-jacked version of the former. I think he'll actually play well off of Affleck and Cavill. Whether the story even remotely works is another matter...

Meh, ya'll still haven't sold me on Momoa. Cavill and Affleck are the perfectly idealized versions of Superman and Batman. They both look how we have come to expect them to look, especially Cavill. But now we shouldn't expect Aquaman to look like how he has been shown to us all these years?
And Gadot, with the body of a catwalk model, is cast as a (beautiful, yes, but) muscular Amazon? That pic she tweeted out of her bicep as proof of her getting in shape for the role was laughable.

Maybe they went with Momoa because they couldn't find a blonde(ish) actor who has the appropriate size. Personally I think Fassbender would fit the role, off the top of my head, but he's already playing Magneto.

But hey, I'm no casting specialist. I would love to be completely wrong about these hires. And more than likely, what will be the downfall of the Justice League movies won't be the acting, but the writing

If this is true, it goes a long way in explaining what is wrong with DC movies right now. Way to focus on completely the wrong thing.

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Last week was about the fifth time I've heard that there is a mandate at Warner Bros. regarding any of the DC superhero films in development, and it's very simple and direct and to the point.

"No jokes."

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http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/why-dcs-serious-superman-may-give-marvel-the-big-screen-edge#C4iTzvCpj4iPBDWH.99

Hey DC,

Thats the dumbest mandate ever.
Part of the allure of comic book movies to the non-comic book readers is that they are fun to watch.

I hated the TDK (I know, I'm about to get lambasted for that) and would watch a bajillion Iron Mans or GOTG or even the old Batman movies in front of the heavy handed feel of TDK.


Also, it seems like Chris Pine would be the easy casting choice for Aquaman.


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Scoot McNairy as Jimmy Olsen?

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=106716

I'd believe that over Flash

Wondering how they're going to treat the Clark Kent aspect this go-around. Surely they're not actually going with the glasses-as-a-disguise, right?

http://www.superherohype.com/news/314243-more-photos-of-henry-cavill-as-clark-kent-on-the-batman-v-superman-set#/slide/1

Of course they will. It's iconic but also just shows why Superman is so antiquated and silly at this point.

Yep.

DC vs Marvel has been set as action/drama vs action/comedy so far. I like that there is a solid difference between the two, as they both do them very well.

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Wondering how they're going to treat the Clark Kent aspect this go-around. Surely they're not actually going with the glasses-as-a-disguise, right?

http://www.superherohype.com/news/314243-more-photos-of-henry-cavill-as-clark-kent-on-the-batman-v-superman-set#/slide/1

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What other disguise would you suggest?

I don't really have an alternate suggestion. I just think that in the year 2014, it's incredibly hard to believe that anyone above the age of five would be fooled by a simple pair of glasses and some stuttering. I can believe a man can fly, but I can't believe any human being would be that dumb/non-observant. Hundreds of pics had to have been taken of Superman in that final battle against Zod, if not in Smallville. The second Clark was out in public after that, all it takes is one person to recognize him and take a pic, and any moron on the internet would sniff the whole thing out in a matter of hours. That, and Superman apparently appears before congress in BvS. At that moment, anyone who works at The Daily Planet is going to recognize that guy as their co-worker, Clark Kent. You could get away with that in earlier iterations. But now? It's just so stupid.

My vote would be to either A) drop the whole disguise element altogether, or B) rethink the disguise element completely. It's time the character evolves past the same tropes that were being used in the '50s. The world is obviously so incredibly different now. Clark doesn't need a newspaper/news station job to "keep his ear to the ground." There are dozens of other ways to do that now. But who knows, maybe they've figured out a cool angle to take Kent this go around. But judging by those pics, and the final scene of MoS, I seriously doubt it.

Doesn't he part his hair on the other side too?

I get the Superman/Clark Kent thing is a little hokey to believe. But you have to blame that on the writers. To many people just write in that Superman wears glasses to become Kent. In the hands of a good writer it can be a comment on how we stereotype people, and ignore (know little about) people we see everyday. In good comics he also slouches, raises his voice, and acts a role to be Kent. Christopher Reeves does it perfectly in this clip.

Plus it leads to great moments like this where Lex Luthor uses a computer to find out Superman is Clark Kent.

I get what you're saying, and I appreciate the thematic elements the disguise can explore, but it all feels so been-there done-that now. Let's explore some new/different themes about identity. Plus, I don't care how many ticks or mannerism he adds, it's just not going to do the trick. Not in the year 2014. Superman would be the most famous, most recognizable person on the planet. If Lebron James somehow got a job at The Cleveland Plain Dealer, showed up to his first day of work in glasses, a slightly different haircut, and even gave a creditable performance as a lovable, bumbling nerd, everyone and their dog would still be thinking, "Why the hell is Lebron James dressed like that and acting like such a weirdo." It just doesn't make sense anymore. There's too much exposure, and too much critical thinking nowadays. I understand that movies are all about escapism and suspension of disbelief and all that, but this goes beyond that. It's just dumb.

TC, that reminds me of this commercial

I like the idea of owning the fact that he is Superman. It made Ironman a lot cooler in my eyes. It would be interesting where this movie picks up.

Hey, it's just another one of his superpowers. He puts on the glasses and no one recognizes him.

Yeah, I thought that since Lois knows Clark's real identity they might do away with Daily Planet Clark Kent, but not to be. Still could be fun though.

Actually, at the risk of taking this in an even nerdier direction, here's how I'd tackle a new Superman take...

Something else that has never made sense to me is why Superman ages exactly like the rest of us. Wouldn't the sun not only affect his muscles and all that, but also the aging process? Since he's super-human, give him a super-long life span. And I know certain comics have explored that angle, with him living basically forever, but they still had him reach maturity in roughly the same amount of time it takes a normal human to reach his 20s/30s. So why not expand that? What if he arrives on Earth in the early 1900s? And for the sake of this example, let's say he ages twice as slowly as we do. So by 1950, he'd look like a 25-year-old man. Have a montage of him being a reporter at The Daily Planet during that time, when the disguise element was more believable. But then he has to quit eventually - after 10-15 years or so - when maybe a few people start to really recognize that he's not aging. Maybe they even finally put two and two together. Point is, you could still honor that disguise element, but then take the bulk of the story in a completely different direction, and fast forward to modern day. Where is Superman living now? Who is Clark Kent now? Did finally own up to his identity, or he is *just* Superman? I obviously haven't thought this all the way through, but I just feel like that angle is ripe for exploring, and would be something fresh. You could honor the vintage elements of Superman/Clark Kent, but also explore this whole other Wolverine-esque element of man who's been alive - and will continue to live - a lot longer than the rest of us. Alienate him in that way even more.

Ha, TajMaballer, forgot all about that commercial. Awesome.

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Yeah, but that seems just as hokey. I can buy his cells/muscles/etc being super-powered, but having some kind of super-psychic ability feels a little too out there. Then again, I guess the sun would affect his mind too? So maybe? I don't know.

Why does Superman need a job at all?

^ I mean, he still has to eat and live somewhere, right? I guess he could just live at the Fortress of Solitude, though. And could fairly easily kill whatever food he needed. But I love even asking that question. If Superman is going to succeed in pop culture going forward, those kinds of questions need to seriously be considered. He needs to be completely re-thought, while still remaining true to the basic essence of his character.

Supes doesn't need a job, but he does need a place to land. He can't just float around listening for cries of distress. He needs human interaction.

^ Agreed.

Does Superman need to eat? I know he drinks beer but I assumed it's cause he likes the taste

I thought he built the Fortress of Solitude to have a place to live.

Surely that thing has a kitchen in it.

All the knowledge of the codex probably has a few recipes mixed in - maybe some stuff he could put in a slow-cooker so it won't burn if he has to rush out to stop and earthquake or a space monster.

If he wanted to hold down a job, how about boxer, MMA fighter or play a professional sport? Would he be DQ'ed for not being human?

That's the movie I want to see, Superman's quest to win the heavyweight championship of the world, or to break the all-time home run record.

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Supes doesn't need a job, but he does need a place to land. He can't just float around listening for cries of distress. He needs human interaction.

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I think this would be critical to actually having Superman turnout how he is. He would need everyday normal human interactions to keep him grounded.

Seeing as how the topic is alien super beings, I can suspend belief enough to think that you wouldn't assume the nerdy guy you work with is actually a god even if he has a similar look. I think it has to be the Reeves version of Kent though and not this hipster/cool version it looked like they went with in MoS.

He has to look physically different and be a forgettable person. They've already made a lot of mistakes with how they portrayed his time in Smallville and his interactions with people from The Planet that will prevent them from pulling it off, but it can be done. The only thing they got right was having Lois know. She has to know to make it believable.

I like the idea that maybe Superman left home after discovering his powers and heritage. He spent a decade up at the fortress, maybe working secretly as Superman, but misses being human. For that reason this Clark Kent guy shows up out of nowhere, applying for jobs in Metropolis.

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Christopher Reeves does it perfectly in this clip.

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Good example of how the glasses disguise can best be handled. I'll be shocked if they have this Clark Kent be a dweeb, though. They'll want him to be cool, because "cool" is what DC is all about.

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Good example of how the glasses disguise can best be handled. I'll be shocked if they have this Clark Kent be a dweeb, though. They'll want him to be cool, because "cool" is what DC is all about.

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In fairness, Clark Kent in today's real world would be a hipster god.

Ha, I was about to say the modern Clark Kent would be an uber hipster.