quote:And, that's exactly what I was afraid of (and, it's the only way I can think they'd get 4-6 months life off of any batteries). So, more likely, if it's in a house it could be recording a hundred times the projected amount for battery life - if outside, it could still be recording dozens of times more than Netgear projected, which I find very disconcerting, to the point of false advertising. I guess if that is the case, you just have to make sure you are using it in the way Netgear designed it, which would certainly reduce its usefulness.
The documentation says they record when movement is detected. Unless there is a time feature I imagine one would be recording quite a bit during the day on any outdoor cams and indoor if you have pets or a spouse who works from home.
This would be interesting to check out.
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Where did you see it uses CR123s? I looked all over those docs and couldn't find any reference to the batteries other than "4-6 months".
And that would suck about not being able to use the NAS if true. I would think NETGEAR would try to get their ReadyNAS users to pick these things up since the RNs have security cam software and apps.
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Each base station can support up to four cameras, and Netgear will sell stand-alone cameras for $170 each. The cameras will not function in the absence of a base station.
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The entire system still requires a base station, something the company says is necessary to use ultra low power WiFi, and to work with as wide a range of routers as possible (including ones from competitors). Connecting directly to a router directly would also drain the batteries in two days, the company says.
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As part of the smart home push, Netgear is introducing a hub to which up to four Arlo IP cameras can connect. Rules can be created for management of smart devices. Currently, the VueZone cameras (like Dropcam) allow for remote viewing, but recording to the cloud requires monthly plans. The new Arlo IP cameras will follow the same route. Fortunately, Netgear does realize that users would like to record to a local NAS. Since they also have the ReadyNAS product line, the Arlo team is definitely thinking about ensuring some sort of interoperability. However, cloud-free operation is not going to be a feature when the units ship to retail in January.
quote:quote:And, that's exactly what I was afraid of (and, it's the only way I can think they'd get 4-6 months life off of any batteries). So, more likely, if it's in a house it could be recording a hundred times the projected amount for battery life - if outside, it could still be recording dozens of times more than Netgear projected, which I find very disconcerting, to the point of false advertising. I guess if that is the case, you just have to make sure you are using it in the way Netgear designed it, which would certainly reduce its usefulness.
The documentation says they record when movement is detected. Unless there is a time feature I imagine one would be recording quite a bit during the day on any outdoor cams and indoor if you have pets or a spouse who works from home.
This would be interesting to check out.
quote:I'm your Huckleberry.
If these got sent out for testing, it would be one hell of a long (or maybe short!) test to verify the battery life claims in real world usage.
Fixed link... it's not nearly as exciting as TracerX's though... quote:It says I don't have access.
quote:Yeah, I think he tried to post a link to a screenshot or something he has saved on his evernote camera roll, but it's not public and I can't see it either.quote:It says I don't have access.
quote:1TB drives. Not NAS, they are ST1000DM003's.
what size are the hard drives? those look like the new Seagate NAS drives. Confirm?
now I really wish I'd gotten one because I want to compare the seagate and WD nas drives to each other
quote:They use CR123 or CR123A (rechargeable). We have on our roadmap the ability to backup to our NAS so that you can get off the cloud and have unlimited storage. That's going to be cool if the software engineers can pull that off.quote:Depends on if those batteries are replaceable. I can't see spending $170 for a new camera every 4-6 months which is what they are spec'd for on battery life.
http://www.arlo.com/
so much want
Also depends on if they are usable with existing NAS devices. I'm not dropping $350 for something my NAS's are designed to do.
quote:The cameras use low-power WIFi and are on demand, meaning they only turn on when they detect motion. That's how we can claim 6 month battery life.quote:
On that CNET article, it states netgear is basing the 4-6 month claim on users only viewing the camera 4 minutes a day. How does that work? The cameras are still rolling 24/7, right?
quote:The GUI has a setting for motion sensitivity. You can turn it all the way down to prevent it from recording rustling leaves or stuff like that. It takes a little playing with, but once you find the right settings, the battery life claims are actually true. I use an older model and I got 12 months of battery out of one of my cameras. it's definitely not meant for 24/7 security, only personal monitoring.quote:And, that's exactly what I was afraid of (and, it's the only way I can think they'd get 4-6 months life off of any batteries). So, more likely, if it's in a house it could be recording a hundred times the projected amount for battery life - if outside, it could still be recording dozens of times more than Netgear projected, which I find very disconcerting, to the point of false advertising. I guess if that is the case, you just have to make sure you are using it in the way Netgear designed it, which would certainly reduce its usefulness.
The documentation says they record when movement is detected. Unless there is a time feature I imagine one would be recording quite a bit during the day on any outdoor cams and indoor if you have pets or a spouse who works from home.
This would be interesting to check out.
quote:Thanks for the info. Netgear may want to carefully consider how they market these, as many systems are set up to record most of the time, and I haven't seen that distinction obviously made clear in the materials available (other than the reviews from other tech sites).quote:The GUI has a setting for motion sensitivity. You can turn it all the way down to prevent it from recording rustling leaves or stuff like that. It takes a little playing with, but once you find the right settings, the battery life claims are actually true. I use an older model and I got 12 months of battery out of one of my cameras. it's definitely not meant for 24/7 security, only personal monitoring.quote:And, that's exactly what I was afraid of (and, it's the only way I can think they'd get 4-6 months life off of any batteries). So, more likely, if it's in a house it could be recording a hundred times the projected amount for battery life - if outside, it could still be recording dozens of times more than Netgear projected, which I find very disconcerting, to the point of false advertising. I guess if that is the case, you just have to make sure you are using it in the way Netgear designed it, which would certainly reduce its usefulness.
The documentation says they record when movement is detected. Unless there is a time feature I imagine one would be recording quite a bit during the day on any outdoor cams and indoor if you have pets or a spouse who works from home.
This would be interesting to check out.
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My previous experience leads me toward WD simply because their replacement process is painless. Any technical advantages between the two?
quote:Can't you just set the time machine to exclude everything you don't want backed up? Open up time machine and select the options button at the bottom right. You should be able to add either what you do or don't want backed up.
Agreed, time machine on a Mac was easy to set-up, however, I'm having a really hard time just backing up a couple of specific folders instead of using time machine.
Anyone running on a Mac that can give me some hints? I really just want to backup photos/videos b/c of space constraints.
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Just got an email for the Powerline Adapter
quote:Yeah, I've got it set-up that way right now - it works fine, but I guess this is more of a 'I want to figure out how to do this' kind of a thing.quote:Can't you just set the time machine to exclude everything you don't want backed up? Open up time machine and select the options button at the bottom right. You should be able to add either what you do or don't want backed up.
Agreed, time machine on a Mac was easy to set-up, however, I'm having a really hard time just backing up a couple of specific folders instead of using time machine.
Anyone running on a Mac that can give me some hints? I really just want to backup photos/videos b/c of space constraints.
quote:Can't get much more automated than TimeMachine. It does it every hour on the hour for you.
I assume you're looking for an automated solution, since one time is as easy as drag an drop? If so, there are a few apps in the app store. I don't have experience with any of them though. I'm sure some of the Apple homers will have some suggestions for you though.
