You knew Pop wouldn't trade without getting a awkward at times white guy from overseas back.
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-The best fit to me as it stands would be to start Murray, DeRozan, Belinelli, Aldridge and Gasol. That's the best hope for adequate defense and adequate spacing
flashplayer said:
That novel made me hopeful until I got to this part:Quote:
-The best fit to me as it stands would be to start Murray, DeRozan, Belinelli, Aldridge and Gasol. That's the best hope for adequate defense and adequate spacing
That might be the worst spurs defensive line up of all time
Which one? 4 or 14?mike_ags_fan12 said:
Per basketball reference (spurs career): second in made 3 pointers, 7th in blocks.
Will spurs retire Danny greens number?
just what i've been told. take it for what it's worth. i've said this before on this thread several times. we were never gonna pay him until he proved he could play again. that's why he kept our doctors away. he ain't healthy. can't play defense like he did before. take his defense away and he's not top 10 player. his main value was that he could guard anybody in the league and score 20+ game. nobody in the game can do that right now.Old Army Metal said:That's a scorching hot take, anything to back it up?DSAg44 said:
kawhi's career is over. spurs got what they could get.
tank next season and pick up David Robinson. Tank another and we get Duncan and we're back in business!Ulrich said:
Who's talking about tanking?
Malcolm52 said:
Have some of y'all looked at the rosters around the league? We aren't golden state but we have a solid damn roster after this trade. You can poke holes in almost everyone's roster if that is your goal.
Modern NBA is obsessed with you have to be a favorite to win it all or you might as well say screw it and blow it up. Losing KL sucks, it really does. However this roster will compete ever night and give us a chance at a good season. You never know what will happen. I swear the idea of tanking sounds better to some fans.
Ulrich said:
The Spurs have about 8 solid second team guys but only two clear starting caliber players, three if Gay returns to form. A lot of times the right stars can make a role player an effective starter (see: Danny Green), but I'm not sure the spurs have those kind of starters. There aren't enough guys who are average or better on both ends and the role players are good at one thing in one end, not one thing on each end.
There are paths to contention but they all seem to involve at least two vets making dramatic changes to their game and one young guy becoming twice the player he was last year.
Gonna be an interesting year.
I think Derozan has done more over a longer period. You could say Kawhi is better today if healthy. So that makes Derozan the 2nd best perimeter offensive player the Spurs have had since forever.DTP02 said:
You believe DeRozan is a better offensive player than Kawhi? It's Kawhi and I don't even think it's a close call.
Enzo The Baker said:
Pop said in his interview that he watched Lonnie play in the summer league. He said Lonnie's athleticism and doing things off of the cuff reminded him of Manu when he was younger.
DTP02 said:
Timvp is back on Spurstalk? Haven't visited there in a couple years at least and he had been gone for a while (which coincided with the site going more downhill). I'm in agreement with his view on DeRozan, although I like Poetl more than he does.
My concern is Aldridge's buy in had a lot to do with him not needing to share the ball with Kawhi, and being the uncontested alpha dog on offense. Does that still apply with Demar on the floor?Ulrich said:
If you're right we'll end up with a hell of a team in 2019-2020.
I think if you want guys to change their stripes, it takes a coach but it also takes a critical mass of players who are bought in.
Tony Parker came in probably without the kind of attitude that he has today, but NBA champions David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Gregg Popovich, et al taught him the way. SJax came in at the same time but it didn't stick so they moved him. Repeat 100x through today.
I'm not convinced that Aldridge is a true evangelist for the spurs' way just yet. Defensively he bought in, but offensively he still plays his way and he was apparently requesting a trade just 12 months ago. If Manu retires there's really no one left on the court that I'm confident is truly committed to the spurs way of doing things and has championship cachet and the performance to back up the things they're saying.
All the production is going to come from Rudy Gay with his well known history, the recent convert Aldridge, and benched-in-the-playoffs DeRozan. Murray is probably the wild card there, he might be able to step into a leadership role but those other guys have been a lot better for a lot longer.
evan_aggie said:
Saw on ESPN them grading a spurs D+ and raptors A for this trade.
Not really sure what else the spurs could have done...they would get zero for Leonard after this year, assuming he even played at all.