*****2017-2018 San Antonio Spurs*****

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Something has to be going on behind the scenes.
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s13fenton said:




Something has to be going on behind the scenes.
Been a lot of talks about DeMar DeRozan for Kawhi.
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Do not want DeMar.
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https://cleaningtheglass.com/the-nbas-balancing-act/

Interesting thoughts on how to fix the NBA:

1. No Max Salaries. Pay everyone as much as you want.
2. No Draft. Rookies come in as free agents and you can pay them whatever you want.

Which would never pass, because it has to be agreed on by the players association, and the less money rookies get, the more for the veterans.

or, a more realistic approach...

1. Allow teams to pay one player more than the max.
2. Shorten Rookie contracts
3. Change incentives in contracts. Right now, unlikely incentives (such as MVP award) can't be more than 10% of pay.
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Money Ag said:

Do not want DeMar.


How about that?
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So we getting kawhi still or nah ?
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Only if Pop and Co feel like Markelle isn't broken.
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The longer this drags out with Kawhi, the more risk his stock drops further.
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Pumpkinhead said:

The longer this drags out with Kawhi, the more risk his stock drops further.
Nah.

If he comes back and is 100% and looks like the player that finished #2 and #3 in consecutive seasons for MVP, then his stock raises. Especially if a team has a Gordon Hayward-like early season injury, but could compete for a title with Kawhi.
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If Kawhi were really broken I think they would have moved him before the draft... If they even know, which is the absurd thing about all this.
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Really not a huge Derozan fan and I don't know what else they have that we'd want.
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I think he has been 100% since at least the all-star break.

About that same time, Nike/Jordan offered him an extension for 4y/20mm. His deal expires in the fall.

That 5mm/year deal is way below other stars at his level with Harden around $15mm and Durant at $25mm per year.


I think that Nike deal is the root of everything.

But the Supermax is $50mm more than the regular max he could get if he was traded.

So say he is traded to the Lakers, gets the $170mm max and then gets a $15mm/year deal, he comes out even except that he has 13% income tax in LA and 0% in SA.

I assume Uncle Dennis is terrible at math.
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I assume this professional basketball ops person hasn't seen 99.53% of Spurs game since 1967, though.
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Guitarsoup said:



I assume this professional basketball ops person hasn't seen 99.53% of Spurs game since 1967, though.


Savage.
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Guitarsoup said:



I assume this professional basketball ops person hasn't seen 99.53% of Spurs game since 1967, though.
hypeman...give it to him
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Guitarsoup said:



I assume this professional basketball ops person hasn't seen 99.53% of Spurs game since 1967, though.

I... don't agree with that tweet. However, he has shown a ton of upside.
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I think it's pretty clear a lot of rookies are more polished and are looking better than Lonnie.

Guy is super athletic, though.
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flashplayer
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Is this 4 real?
Enzo The Baker
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Walker just went down with a right leg injury. Didn't look like any big impact when I saw it live.
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So if we get Derozan doesn't that basically make us the trailblazers with an older Aldridge?
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Just an ankle sprain. Reinjured the one he tweaked in Utah.
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A lot of rumors about SA/Toronto trade.
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Meh. I only like trading for DeRozan if Spurs turn around and trade him for picks. He's already 29 and sucks at 3s.

Also need to ship Lamarcus off for whatever can be gotten for him.
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Why would we ship our All NBA player who makes below market value?
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3y/83mm due to DeRozan.
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Kawhi and Patty for Derozan and OG Anunoby. I like OG as a young wing prospect, clears Patty's contract to give us room for next summer. Maybe we can get Toronto to throw in a pick as well.
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Quote:

3y/83mm due to DeRozan.
Yea that's a lot. I'd only do it if they gave us a couple of their younger talents, too. Ideally would like to unload Pau, but that won't happen.
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Kawhi
Patty
Pau
First

for

DeRozan
Jonas V
OG
Delon
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Guitarsoup said:

Kawhi
Patty
Pau
First

for

DeRozan
Jonas V
OG
Delon


Don't like giving up any picks for a guy as meh as Derozan.
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Yea. I don't think there is any way the Spurs would give up first rounders while already giving up Kawhi.
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West Texan said:

Guitarsoup said:

Kawhi
Patty
Pau
First

for

DeRozan
Jonas V
OG
Delon


Don't like giving up any picks for a guy as meh as Derozan.


Pop doesn't care about our picks and we'd be dumping Patty and Gasol while taking three starters off a 59 win team. I'm good with giving them #25
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Guitarsoup said:




Now officially no reason to watch the next summer league game. No White, no Metu, no Walker, just a bunch of permanent G League players and no real prospects out there.
 
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