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Not the first John Roberts I would think of, but, to be fair that's a pretty generic name.

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captkirk said:

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Hmmmmmmm

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Not the first John Roberts I would think of, but, to be fair that's a pretty generic name.

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Not the first John Roberts I would think of, but, to be fair that's a pretty generic name.

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<dons tin foil hat> Didn't Roberts and his wife have some questions about their adoption? Epstein was into child trafficking, after all.<removes tin foil hat>.

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Dr. Mark Siegel: My inside sources have told me there was hemorrhaging in the neck, that there was some bruising.

Paging drcrinum? Is that hemorrhaging that significant?

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Broken bones in the neck would always be associated with localized hemorrhaging at a minimum.

No hemorrhaging would mean the bones were broken postmortem (resuscitation attempt, moving the body)

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Later in October 2008, when Epstein was serving his jail sentence in Palm Beach County, he coerced the young woman into flying to Florida, where he promised her a job at his organization, the Florida Science Foundation.

But the young woman did not do any foundation work. Instead, Epstein again coerced the woman into sex acts - sometimes alone, sometime with another young woman - all while he was supposed to be on work release, the suit said.

If true, it happened as he was being monitored by Palm Beach deputies in plainclothes. Epstein paid the deputies to work as his security detail, and they filed daily reports on the comings and goings at his office - records that have since been destroyed.

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"Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges," wrote Epstein's lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt in a 2007 letter to federal prosecutors.

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Interesting we aren't seeing this in the news....

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"Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges," wrote Epstein's lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt in a 2007 letter to federal prosecutors.

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Interesting we aren't seeing this in the news....

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I sure dang we hope see this brought up. #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonGlobal

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Jeffrey Epstein's former Manhattan cellmate says guards at the lockup have been threatening him since the financier's death, according to a legal filing by his attorneys Tuesday asking a judge to move him to a new prison.

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"The clear message Mr. Tartaglione has received is that if he conveys information about the facility or about [Epstein's] recent suicide, there will be a price to pay," Barket's letter reads. "Whether or not the investigators into the suicide chose to interview Mr. Tartaglione about the attempted suicide to which he was witness or about how the facility is run and the conditions under which the inmates are forced to live, the correction officers know he has information potentially very damaging to the very people now charged with guarding him or their coworkers."

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Aggiehawg- does the suicide attempt just before and successful attempt just days after signing will/trust docs impact the validity of those documents? Couldn't an argument be made that he was clearly not of sound mind?

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Who would challenge that new will? On other words, who was a Beneficiary before that isn't any longer?

The victims will file fraudulent transfer claims against the trust to undo the transfers. Seems like pretty easy case to prove "intent to hinder, delay or defraud" creditors & potential creditors.

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I think the mods deleted my thread about Epstein's Madame teaching girls how to give mouth hugs. I don't understand, I used no foul language and I linked an article to an accredited news org.

What did I do wrong?

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^^^
I didn't know Snake Plisskin's given name was Bernard.

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drcrinum said:

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In any penitentiary where big money players are housed, I would assume that shady dealing is SOP.

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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i thought he was a billionaire? now they are saying $577 million?

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Wouldn't refusing to cooperate with the DOJ put the spotlight on someone who may otherwise be considered innocent of wrongdoing? That tells me that whomever is pulling the strings is a pretty nasty character and those who are refusing to cooperate fear that person (or persons) more than they do the DOJ. Telling, no?

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If you are an accomplished science or technology writer, your books are probably handled by the most powerful literary agency in the field: the famous Brockman Inc., started by John Brockman and now run by Max Brockman, his son. As it happens, Max is also my agentand has been since my first book was sold in 2009. As agencies go, I only have positive things to report: The Brockmans fight for their authors and get us very handsome advances. That's what agents are for.


But that's not the whole story.

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Epstein participated in the Edge Foundation's annual questions, and attended its "billionaires' dinners." Brockman may also be the reason why so many prominent academics - from Steven Pinker to Daniel Dennett - have found themselves answering awkward questions about their associations with Epstein; they are clients of Brockman. Marvin Minsky, the prominent MIT scientist who surfaced as one of Epstein's island buddies? A client of Brockman's. Joi Ito, the director of the elite research facility MIT Media Lab, who has recently acknowledged extensive ties to Epstein? Also, a client of Brockman's.

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Knowing that Brockman likes to brag about all the famous people he has met and befriended - you can easily count the seconds until he name-checks "Marshall" (McLuhan) or "Andy" (Warhol) or "Gregory" (Bateson) in a casual conversation - I decided to look over our correspondence over the past decade and see if he might have name-dropped Epstein somewhere. And, of course, he did. Browsing through our email correspondence, I stumbled upon a most peculiar email from September 12, 2013.

It was very laconic: "JE, FYI, JB" - followed by my short bio and some media clippings. (You can check the entire PDF of the correspondence here.) Strangely, it was sent to me and had no other contacts in cc. Perhaps he wanted to send it to "JE" but put my email there by mistake. When I commented on the meaning of this cryptic message, he responded with the following message, reproduced here in full:

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I missed that one.

Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist showed up at this weekend's event by helicopter (with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus). He'll be in Cambridge in a couple of weeks asked me who he should meet. You are one of the people I suggested and I told him I would send some links.

He's the guy who gave Harvard #30m to set up Martin Nowak. He's been extremely generous in funding projects of many of our friends and clients. He also got into trouble and spent a year in jail in Florida.

If he contacts you it's probably worth your time to meet him as he's extremely bright and interesting.
Last time I visited his house (the largest private residence in NYC), I walked in to find him in a sweatsuit and a British guy in a suit with suspenders, getting foot massages from two young well-dressed Russian women. After grilling me for a while about cyber-security, the Brit, named Andy, was commenting on the Swedish authorities and the charges against Julian Assange.

"We think they're liberal in Sweden, but its more like Northern England as opposed to Southern Europe," he said. "In Monaco, Albert works 12 hours a day but at 9pm, when he goes out, he does whatever he wants, and nobody cares. But, if I do it, I'm in big trouble." At that point I realized that the recipient of Irina's foot massage was his Royal Highness, Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.
Indeed, a week later, on a slow news day, the cover of the NYpost had a full-page photo of Jeffrey and Andrew walking in Central Park under the headline: "The Prince and the Perv." (That was the end of Andrew's role at the UK trade ambassador.)

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thanks for clarifying this. I'm sure he's an all-around sweet guy but I'll have to think about it. It could be that I spent far too much time in the Soros bubble but I have zero interest in meeting billionaires - if I did, I'd be going to Davos every year. but I appreciate you taking the time.

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A billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret plus a modelling agency is a different kind of animal. But I hear you and basically agree. Gregory Bateson once advised me that 'Of all our human inventions, economic man is by far the dullest.'
JB

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"A billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret plus a modelling agency" --> one more reason to stay away actually.

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I didn't know who Epstein was at the time. Since I've never been very keen to hang out with billionaires, mine was a natural response (I similarly declined Brockman's invitations to hang out on his farm or attend his famous billionaire dinners). So I didn't think much of that invitation and eventually forgot about it. Needless to say, I never heard from Epstein - or from Brockman about Epstein.

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Prince Andrew will co-operate with police over the Jeffrey Epstein case if asked, the Mail has been told.

Buckingham Palace aides made clear that the embattled Duke of York would be willing to help authorities on both sides of the Atlantic if approached, saying: 'Members of the Royal Family would always co-operate with the police in an appropriate way.'

Last week it emerged that the Metropolitan Police had decided not to investigate claims first made in 2015 that the prince had sex with a 17-year-old victim of the paedophile financier, who committed suicide earlier this month awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

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