I got the impression "recent years" meant after the FL sentence was over.Quote:
Fisten said associates of Epstein have come forward to him and Edwards alleging that Epstein has traveled with two young women who have procured girls for him in recent years. He said he and Edwards have shared the names of those women and associated information with federal authorities.
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Now it is the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office time in the barrel.
Between Epstein being allowed to skip his check-ins in NYC, that Public Corruption Unit is going to be busy.
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In 2008, a supervisor at the county jail here alerted staff members to the needs of an inmate serving an 18-month sentence for sex crimes involving a minor. Jeffrey Epstein, he wrote in a memo, was a first-time offender "poorly versed in jail routine," and "his adjustment to incarceration will most likely be atypical."
"For the time being, I am authorizing that his cell door be left unlocked and he be given liberal access to the attorney room where a TV will be installed," Capt. Mark Chamberlain wrote in August of that year.
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Under an arrangement with state prosecutors, Epstein served his sentence in the custody of county authorities rather than in a state prison.
Epstein was soon transferred to the lower-security Palm Beach County Stockade, records show. At the request of his attorneys, he was housed in the "T-dorm," an area reserved for inmates who must be separated from other inmates. In February of the following year, he was moved again. "It has been agreed upon by his legal staff that Inmate Epstein will pay for the security staff to supervise him in this previously unstaffed housing unit, the infirmary at the Stockade," an official from the sheriff's office wrote in an email.
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The deputies who monitored him were required to wear suits and to "greet inmate Epstein upon his arrival," documents show. In internal reports about the work-release program, the deputies often describe Epstein as "the client" or "Mr. Epstein." Two deputies refer to him as "Jeffrey."
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At least 92 deputies applied to be with him while he was out of the stockade. They earned overtime pay for the jobs, ranging from $42 to $64 an hour, as Epstein's "permit deputies."
Some of the deputies were confused about their job duties. Lt. Steven Thibodeau wrote in an email to a colleague that he had received "several calls from confused permits deputies regarding" Epstein. "Several permit deputies weren't sure who the client is and how far to push the work release do's and don't," he wrote.
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In their motion, the pair of attorneys behind the Doe case a former prosecutor named Bradley Edwards and a retired federal judge, Paul Cassell claimed that Epstein, for purposes of pleasure and blackmail, had also paid Giuffre to have sex with numerous high-profile individuals, including "prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister and other world leaders." Her affidavit named two of these "friends and acquaintances" of Epstein: Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz. Cassell and Edwards claimed that Dershowitz had a conflict of interest in negotiating a deal that involved immunity for co-conspirators, and it should therefore be invalidated. A judge would later deny the motion and order it stricken from the court record, finding the "lurid details" were "immaterial and impertinent" to the case. But by that time, largely because Prince Andrew was involved, the story was everywhere. (Buckingham Palace denies he committed any wrongdoing.)
"We thought it was comical in the beginning," Cohen said. "Until we realized people were taking it seriously." Dershowitz later came to believe that the affidavit was the bait in a carefully planned trap. And he thinks he knows who laid it: David Boies.
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According to Dershowitz's theory, Giuffre's allegations were never meant to stand up in court. He argues he was merely a "stalking horse," meant to provide an embarrassing example to another man: the billionaire Leslie Wexner, whom he had heard Giuffre had also accused. "The decision to name me publicly," Dershowitz alleges in a recent court filing, "was calculated to send the following message to Wexner: If you don't want to have happen to you what happened to Alan Dershowitz, you should settle the complaint against you, even though the statute of limitations has long expired."
At least some portions of his theory have turned out to be true. Although Dershowitz didn't come to know it until much later, Boies was involved in the Epstein litigation as early as June 2014, six months before Giuffre filed her affidavit in the Doe case. Giuffre's lawyers asserted that Epstein "lent out" their client to his powerful friends, and they wanted to bring in a heavy hitter. Boies met with Giuffre that July, and decided to represent her for free, with an understanding that his firm might later receive a contingency fee in the event of a financial settlement. He claims, however, that he did not press her to name the other men she was accusing of abuse.
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Boies says that because the motion accusing Dershowitz was made by other lawyers, Edwards and Cassell, he wasn't even aware that Giuffre was making the claim. Pottinger has said he only told Boies when the motion was filed. "When I informed Mr. Boies," Pottinger says in his affidavit, "he told me that while he was aware of Mr. Dershowitz's reputation for running naked on beaches in Martha's Vineyard and hitting on students and girlfriends of students, he was disappointed to learn of his involvement with someone as young as Virginia." When I read this sentence to Dershowitz he gave an amused look to his wife and admitted that he has occasionally gone skinny-dipping at a nude beach near his house. But he denied the part about hitting on students.
It seems inconceivable that Boies, a litigator known for his piercing powers of perception, would have been unaware of one of his client's most explosive claims, and his co-counsels' plans to detonate them in public. On the other hand, he points out an obvious logical flaw in Dershowitz's shakedown theory. "What in the world would lead someone to use Alan Dershowitz as a stalking horse, for heaven's sake?" Boies said. Whatever else he may be, Dershowitz is no one's idea of a patsy.
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At the time the defamation suit was filed, though, Dershowitz still wasn't aware that Boies was his opponent. After his Today appearance, he even received a supportive email from a lawyer in the firm of Boies Schiller Flexner, with whom he had worked in the past. "Thank you for your kind words," Dershowitz wrote back. "I would love your help." The lawyer, who claims he was unaware of the boss's role, said he would be willing to represent him in the defamation case. Dershowitz discussed the lawsuit with him and sent along a memo that he describes as "the whole strategy of my defense." Soon after, the lawyer wrote back, saying the firm had informed him of a conflict, "the nature of which we are not at liberty to discuss." It wasn't until later that Dershowitz discovered Boies was representing his accuser. He would file four separate bar complaints, claiming Boies and his firm acted unethically. None of them have resulted in sanctions.
I just ran across this.aggiehawg said:
Read that. But so far they weren't underage. No actual "new crime" other than the Sheriff's department allowing that crap to happen under their noses.
I think we both can agree on one thing, Epstein is a sicko but was given extraordinary special treatment because of his perceived wealth.
That's just wrong.
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But on nearby St. Thomas, locals say Epstein continued to bring underage girls to the island as recently as this yeara decade after he was forced to register as a convicted sex offenderand that authorities did nothing to stop him.
Two employees who worked at the local airstrip on St. Thomas tell Vanity Fair that they witnessed Epstein boarding his private plane on multiple occasions in the company of girls who appeared to be under the age of consent. According to the employees, the girls arrived with Epstein aboard one of his two Gulfstream jets. Between January 2018 and June 2019, previously published flight records show, the jets were airborne at least one out of every three days. They stopped all over the world, sometimes for only a few hours at a time: Paris, London, Slovakia, Mexico, Morocco. When they left St. Thomas, the employees say, they returned to airports near Epstein's homes in Palm Beach and New York City.
"On multiple occasions I saw Epstein exit his helicopter, stand on the tarmac in full view of my tower, and board his private jet with childrenfemale children," says a former air traffic controller at the airstrip who asked to remain anonymous. "One incident in particular really stands out in my mind, because the girls were just so young. They couldn't have been over 16. Epstein looked very angry and hurled his jacket at one of them. They were also carrying shopping bags from stores not on the island. I remember thinking, 'Where in the world have they been shopping?'"
Another employee at the airstrip, who requested anonymity because he is not allowed to speak about travelers in his official capacity, says Epstein would land at St. Thomas twice a month on average. "There'd be girls that look like they could be in high school," the employee recalls. "They looked very young. They were always wearing college sweatshirts. It seemed like camouflage, that's the best way to put it." Epstein would be dressed in a tracksuit, but the girls carried shopping bags from designer labels: Gucci, Dior.
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Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground. When he's "home" on Little St. James, Epstein's plane is always parked right in front of the control tower.
"The fact that young girls were getting out of his helicopter and getting into his plane, it was like he was flaunting it," the employee says. "But it was said that he always tipped really well, so everyone overlooked it."
Would that really stand out to any normal person? To a normal eye, it just looks like random people going somewhere. If I see an older man and woman with younger women, I don't automatically think: "Sex Trafficking!!!" Most people wouldn't need to be bribed to look the other way, unless they were cops who actually knew something.Quote:
Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground.
Probably not on occasion, but as a regular occurrence with many different underage girls, I think that it would likely stand out.Social Media Influencer said:Would that really stand out to any normal person? To a normal eye, it just looks like random people going somewhere. If I see an older man and woman with younger women, I don't automatically think: "Sex Trafficking!!!" Most people wouldn't need to be bribed to look the other way, unless they were cops who actually knew something.Quote:
Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground.
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With so many disturbing true-life films made each year, it's hard to believe that anyone's story could be off-limits to Hollywood. But, a proposed documentary about the billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has officially been nixed due to it's "distasteful" material, The Hollywood Reporter reported.
Filmmaker Barry Avrich told the publication that when he was developing the story behind the now-shelved documentary, there was little interest in the subject matter or Epstein. This despite the fact that Epstein was convicted years prior in 2008 for soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14 and continued to move freely in high-profile circles.
When neither the man nor the woman have any children? Are they pretending to be foster parents?Social Media Influencer said:Would that really stand out to any normal person? To a normal eye, it just looks like random people going somewhere. If I see an older man and woman with younger women, I don't automatically think: "Sex Trafficking!!!" Most people wouldn't need to be bribed to look the other way, unless they were cops who actually knew something.Quote:
Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground.
The execs know better than to make a film involving a known pedo that has dirt on a bunch of A list celebs and DC politicians like Spielberg, Clinton, Obama, Tom Hanks and dozens others. No point in lighting a bigger fire about the satanic pedo cult. Back to regularly scheduled Trump hate and pro socialism programmingeric76 said:
Hollywood has its limits!
From https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/07/238372/jeffrey-epstein-documentary:Quote:
With so many disturbing true-life films made each year, it's hard to believe that anyone's story could be off-limits to Hollywood. But, a proposed documentary about the billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has officially been nixed due to it's "distasteful" material, The Hollywood Reporter reported.
Filmmaker Barry Avrich told the publication that when he was developing the story behind the now-shelved documentary, there was little interest in the subject matter or Epstein. This despite the fact that Epstein was convicted years prior in 2008 for soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14 and continued to move freely in high-profile circles.
I wouldn't think anything about seeing some older guy with younger girls unless he was touching them. I'd figure it was girls with an uncle or father or grandfather. I bet all of us have witnessed that and thought nothing of it. As someone mentioned earlier though, for those who work where he landed and took off, the fact that he was always with young girls, and different young girls, would be something most would notice.aggiehawg said:When neither the man nor the woman have any children? Are they pretending to be foster parents?Social Media Influencer said:Would that really stand out to any normal person? To a normal eye, it just looks like random people going somewhere. If I see an older man and woman with younger women, I don't automatically think: "Sex Trafficking!!!" Most people wouldn't need to be bribed to look the other way, unless they were cops who actually knew something.Quote:
Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground.
And that's the unanswered question here. Either Epstein had a vasectomy years ago or one of those girls, at a minimum, got pregnant.
I think Epstein is sterile and has been for a very long time.
But since he supposedly pimped those girls out to other men, someone had to have gotten pregnant. Who was his abortionist?Quote:
Good point on the pregnancy angle, you would figure if he was as active as apparently he was, some of them got pregnant unless he had been clipped.
My daughter has an evil semse of humor. She really stood out in a crowd and when id take her to restaurants lots of people stared and gave me very dissaproving looks. She'd play it up and hang on my arm and though totally inappropriate, the look on some of their faces was hysterical. Just thought i'd share. Lol.30wedge said:I wouldn't think anything about seeing some older guy with younger girls unless he was touching them. I'd figure it was girls with an uncle or father or grandfather. I bet all of us have witnessed that and thought nothing of it. As someone mentioned earlier though, for those who work where he landed and took off, the fact that he was always with young girls, and different young girls, would be something most would notice.aggiehawg said:When neither the man nor the woman have any children? Are they pretending to be foster parents?Social Media Influencer said:Would that really stand out to any normal person? To a normal eye, it just looks like random people going somewhere. If I see an older man and woman with younger women, I don't automatically think: "Sex Trafficking!!!" Most people wouldn't need to be bribed to look the other way, unless they were cops who actually knew something.Quote:
Epstein apparently made no attempt to hide his travels with young girls. The airstrip in St. Thomas sits in plain sight of a central highway, and a nearby parking lot at the University of the Virgin Islands provides a complete view of the tarmac and almost every aircraft on the ground.
And that's the unanswered question here. Either Epstein had a vasectomy years ago or one of those girls, at a minimum, got pregnant.
I think Epstein is sterile and has been for a very long time.
Good point on the pregnancy angle, you would figure if he was as active as apparently he was, some of them got pregnant unless he had been clipped.
True, the odds are highly skewed to more than a few having gotten pregnant. He likely had an abortionist on call! Or close ties with Planned Parenthood that he could funnel them to. What a mess.aggiehawg said:But since he supposedly pimped those girls out to other men, someone had to have gotten pregnant. Who was his abortionist?Quote:
Good point on the pregnancy angle, you would figure if he was as active as apparently he was, some of them got pregnant unless he had been clipped.
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http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/220153876/stop-what-you-are-doing-and-get-in-here
Warning: This is a 4chan post. The first six posts at the above link provide many reference links. Provides more thought to the hypothesis that Epstein is somehow linked to 'intelligence'.
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The appeals court also added an unusual warning to the public and the media "to exercise restraint" regarding potentially defamatory allegations.
It said New York law provides immunity from defamation liability for anyone who makes oral or written statements in connection with a proceeding before a court.
Thus, it said, "court filings are, in some respects, particularly susceptible to fraud. For while the threat of defamation actions may deter malicious falsehoods in standard publications, this threat is non-existent with respect to certain court filings."
Have to confess I too have been guilty of asking dumb questions on occasion but I didn't have Google back in the day to look up pictures of Dersh's former homes that have been photographed often.Quote:
BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Is there a kitchen at the entry level?
A. There is only an entry level and so --
Q. One-story home?
A. It's a one-story home.
Q. And so the kitchen is on that first floor?
A. Kitchen is on the first floor to the left, yes.
Parts like that were wtf moments for me. Any idea what they were trying to establish there?aggiehawg said:
Page 132. Asking about the floorplan of Dersh's Harvard home.Have to confess I too have been guilty of asking dumb questions on occasion but I didn't have Google back in the day to look up pictures of Dersh's former homes that have been photographed often.Quote:
BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Is there a kitchen at the entry level?
A. There is only an entry level and so --
Q. One-story home?
A. It's a one-story home.
Q. And so the kitchen is on that first floor?
A. Kitchen is on the first floor to the left, yes.
I honestly don't know where Scarola was trying to go with that line of questioning about the floorplan of his house. But it was obvious that he wasn't prepared to complete that line of questioning because it got derailed so fast he dropped it. It happens that what you thought was a fruitful avenue of inquiry disappears, leading to a dead end.Quote:
Parts like that were wtf moments for me. Any idea what they were trying to establish there?
On the other hand, I don't see that deposition - esp part 2 - as a net positive for Dershowitz. I was struck by how he keeps referring to Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton as if accusations against them are so obviously false that Roberts must have made stuff up about him.
Maybe other docs that will be released are better for him.
Well yes, but the point was that the lawyers for Roberts, Epstein, and the two lawyers Dersh accused of defamation were there. So which person was claiming to have been in Dersh's Harvard home and which point were they trying to make?cbr said:
im not following but sometimes you do that in depo to see if the person really has been there?
dont know.
Two things.will25u said:
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In total, the records I assembled contained 77 actual days of Jeffrey Epstein's work release from October 2008 through July 2009. The top of the form identifies it as a "Work Release Log," the day of the week, and the date. Below is the name of the prisoner (Jeffrey Epstein) with his sign-out time (8 a.m. or 10 a.m.) and his sign-in time for when he returns from work. Both the sheriff's deputy and Epstein were required to sign separately each day when he left and when he returned.
Below is an example from Nov. 5, 2008, that appears to be in compliance. The officer who signed Epstein out and the officer who signed him back in both put their signatures and badge numbers on the top two lines. On the bottom two lines are Epstein's "infinity loop" signature (he signed when he left and signed when he returned).
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However, across the 77 days of records from the PBSO, I found an officer did not sign 30 of Epstein's sign-in/sign-out sheets. See an example below where it appears Epstein signed himself in and out. Also, the time he returned has been altered, where 22:00 (10 p.m.) is crossed out and an earlier time is written in to make it appear he returned at 9:34 p.m. No signature or initials are written next to the modification.
[url=https://theweek.com/speedreads/854066/venezuelan-fighter-jet-aggressively-shadowed-navy-plane]Epstein paid deputies $128,000 to provide him security while on work release.[/url]
