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I absolutely cannot friggin believe I am saying this, but I agree with Joel Klatt entirely.


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They think that this is no longer a Tony Romo window and compared it to Aikman's injury plagued twilight years. The question to them is whether or not Dallas realizes it.

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Face reality and strike while the QB iron is hot. Don't misread your hand, have it blow up in your face, and end up getting your Quincy Carter in a year or two.

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And I reAd someone today, don't remember who that said goff has the best pocket awareness and pocket mobility that he's seen in more than a decade.

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That was probably younger and healthy Romo's best quality - feel for the pocket and ability to buy time even though he wasn't really anything special from a pure mobility standpoint. Tremendous and oftentimes underrated asset.

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That was probably younger and healthy Romo's best quality - feel for the pocket and ability to buy time even though he wasn't really anything special from a pure mobility standpoint. Tremendous and oftentimes underrated asset.

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Yes, I would take Ramsey at 4. He can play corner. He can play safety. He can blitz. He is, IMO, in the mold of eric berry and earl thomas.

He and Jones at the back of that defese would be really really good. Now, you still need to work on the front 7, but Ramsey and Jones would give you a very similar dynamic that Seattle throws out there.

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Yes, I would take Ramsey at 4. He can play corner. He can play safety. He can blitz. He is, IMO, in the mold of eric berry and earl thomas.

He and Jones at the back of that defese would be really really good. Now, you still need to work on the front 7, but Ramsey and Jones would give you a very similar dynamic that Seattle throws out there.

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Ramsey isn't close to Earl Thomas & Eric Berry. They were playmakers. Both double digit career picks. Ramsey has 3.

If you take a safety at 4 he has to be a playmaker. We need better than a bigger Terrence Newman.

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He was solid but not the playmaker we hoped. Plus they didn't let him return punts.

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Yes, I would take Ramsey at 4. He can play corner. He can play safety. He can blitz. He is, IMO, in the mold of eric berry and earl thomas.

He and Jones at the back of that defese would be really really good. Now, you still need to work on the front 7, but Ramsey and Jones would give you a very similar dynamic that Seattle throws out there.

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Ramsey isn't close to Earl Thomas & Eric Berry. They were playmakers. Both double digit career picks. Ramsey has 3.

If you take a safety at 4 he has to be a playmaker. We need better than a bigger Terrence Newman.

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Like I said, he was solid. BUT was he the right pick at #5? Cowboys could've picked Jordan Gross, Terrell Suggs, Kevin Williams, or Troy Polumalu sp? at 5 & still nab Rashean Mathis in the 2nd round.

That's the difference between good drafts & drafts that lay the foundation for championship teams.

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David Moore from DMN was on with The Musers this morning:

1. If Dallas views Goff or Wentz as a franchise QB, they will take whichever is available.

2. Dallas doesn't view Joey Bosa as an elite pass rusher. Dallas has concerns about his "fast twitch" speed and think that he will be a solid DE, but not necessarily worth a high pick. Highly interested in his combine results.

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Like I said, he was solid. BUT was he the right pick at #5? Cowboys could've picked Jordan Gross, Terrell Suggs, Kevin Williams, or Troy Polumalu sp? at 5 & still nab Rashean Mathis in the 2nd round.

That's the difference between good drafts & drafts that lay the foundation for championship teams.

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That's a dangerous and poor game to play. That was back when Dallas had the Nguyen, Singleton, Coackley linebacking corps, which was the fastest and best in the NFC at the time. Darren Woodson was still playing at a high level. Glover, Ekuban, and Ellis were a fantastic Dline. What Dallas needed was a cornerback. Roy Williams was still playing at a pro bowl level. You like to talk about taking "the most pressing need" in this draft. The most pressing need in 2003 was a cornerback.

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Yes, I would take Ramsey at 4. He can play corner. He can play safety. He can blitz. He is, IMO, in the mold of eric berry and earl thomas.

He and Jones at the back of that defese would be really really good. Now, you still need to work on the front 7, but Ramsey and Jones would give you a very similar dynamic that Seattle throws out there.

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Ramsey isn't close to Earl Thomas & Eric Berry. They were playmakers. Both double digit career picks. Ramsey has 3.

If you take a safety at 4 he has to be a playmaker. We need better than a bigger Terrence Newman.

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I don't agree. That is really the only 'knock' on Ramsey is that he didn't have a lot of picks, but I disagree that he doesn't have playmaking ability.

Remember that FSU used him in a variety of ways. He played in lots of diff spots. I think it's a mistake to get too caught up in the INT number.

Eric Berry was great in college and had 14 INTs and 17 TFL

Ed Reed only had 4 INTs in his MIami career

Earl Thomas had 10 INTs but only 7.5 TFL

Ramsey had 4 Forced fumbles and 14 TFL to go with the 3 INTs.

So, clearly Berry stands out, but Ramsey compares favorably to Thomas and Reed.

I think the stats show that Ramsey also has a ton of versatility. Also, keep in mind, that if Ramsey were classified as just a CB he would be rated right with Hargraves for the top CB in the draft. His skill set for a safety is rare.

And I've said this before, elite safety play has such an effect on the rest of the defense that there are a ton of stats that will be affected yet not directly attributed to the safety.

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Like I said, he was solid. BUT was he the right pick at #5? Cowboys could've picked Jordan Gross, Terrell Suggs, Kevin Williams, or Troy Polumalu sp? at 5 & still nab Rashean Mathis in the 2nd round.

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That's a dangerous and poor game to play. That was back when Dallas had the Nguyen, Singleton, Coackley linebacking corps, which was the fastest and best in the NFC at the time. Darren Woodson was still playing at a high level. Glover, Ekuban, and Ellis were a fantastic Dline. What Dallas needed was a cornerback. Roy Williams was still playing at a pro bowl level. You like to talk about taking "the most pressing need" in this draft. The most pressing need in 2003 was a cornerback.

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None of those LB's fit Parcels defense and Roy Williams wasn't smart enough to make it without Woodson holding his hand.

The whole team had to be overhauled.

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That season happened after the draft

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Henry runs 4.5...goodness.

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