M.C. Swag said:Isn't she a friend of Wanda in the comics? Like, her actual comic character isn't that of a villain, correct?Farmer1906 said:
Why can't Agatha just be the villain?
Fightin TX Aggie said:
How has Dr. Strange not been attracted yet to what is going on just across the way in New Jersey?
All sorts of magics and stuff going down. Shouldn't the "Sorcerer Supreme" want to check things out? I mean, he was pretty quick to question Thor and Loki when they visited earth in Ragnarok.
Jab said:
Isn't it possible that new Pietro isn't actually Pietro and is some new supervillain (like Mephisto) posing as him? That would solve the issue of having to introduce a new antagonist at the last minute and also explains why he doesn't really show any depth of knowledge about Wanda's background and also looks completely different and has no accent.
I'm not dead set on Mephisto, but I'm pretty confident the real antagonist here has yet to be revealed. I just don't think we are done with reveals with 1.5 - 2 hrs of programming left.Farmer1906 said:I watched a Youtube video about her a while back. She was a caretaker for Franklin Richards at first and was a teacher to Wanda. I guess she doesn't fit the bill. But the MCU doesn't;t have to play by the comics.M.C. Swag said:Isn't she a friend of Wanda in the comics? Like, her actual comic character isn't that of a villain, correct?Farmer1906 said:
Why can't Agatha just be the villain?
Why do a big song number to basically say just kidding an episode later. Either way, its cool. I guess I just don;t get why everyone is dead set on it being Mephisto.
Yes they told us she is messing things up and pulling strings inside the hex but you answered your own question with a question "what is agatha's motivation" and most are saying it's another "bigger" villain.redline248 said:
Who's been messing up everything? It was Agatha all along!
Who's been pulling every evil string? It was Agatha all along!
Seriously, they flat out told us. Not to mention she has some creepy ass dungeon in her basement and what appears to be an evil looking magic book. (By the way, did anyone get a good look at what was in that cabinet that Wanda looked at when first going in there?)
The only question is what is Agatha's motivation? She has been messing with Vision since at least episode 3, (two if you count the reveal during the magic show). Was that all just a way to get him away from Wanda?
Because the Sorcerer Supreme was also snapped and gone 5 years, and only back for 3 weeks as well. I am sure a lot of metaphysical **** hit the fan during that time and he is out cleaning up magical messes.Fightin TX Aggie said:
How has Dr. Strange not been attracted yet to what is going on just across the way in New Jersey?
All sorts of magics and stuff going down. Shouldn't the "Sorcerer Supreme" want to check things out? I mean, he was pretty quick to question Thor and Loki when they visited earth in Ragnarok.
Jab said:
Isn't it possible that new Pietro isn't actually Pietro and is some new supervillain (like Mephisto) posing as him? That would solve the issue of having to introduce a new antagonist at the last minute and also explains why he doesn't really show any depth of knowledge about Wanda's background and also looks completely different and has no accent.
Saxsoon said:
Damn burned myself on the stove this morning
Who's been messing up everything
Who's been pulling every evil string
and it is emo Toby Mcguire....Saxsoon said:
I don't know if I saw this mentioned before . . . but what if Tobey Maguire shows up at the end.
C@LAg said:and it is emo Toby Mcguire....Saxsoon said:
I don't know if I saw this mentioned before . . . but what if Tobey Maguire shows up at the end.
Interesting idea , but I am going to disagree. that would be too much of a cheat.amercer said:
So we didn't necessarily see what really happened, we only saw what Agatha showed Wanda. The only things we know are 100% real are shown in MCU widescreen (also this just occurred to me but did they steal the aspect change from westworld? )
So Agatha might still be tricking Wanda for undisclosed purposes. If they don't want her to be a villain, she could be using this all as a setup to get the unstable superpowered Wanda to do something good.
Infinity War started off with a giant hole getting blasted through the Sanctum Sanctorum's roof.C@LAg said:Because the Sorcerer Supreme was also snapped and gone 5 years, and only back for 3 weeks as well. I am sure a lot of metaphysical **** hit the fan during that time and he is out cleaning up magical messes.Fightin TX Aggie said:
How has Dr. Strange not been attracted yet to what is going on just across the way in New Jersey?
All sorts of magics and stuff going down. Shouldn't the "Sorcerer Supreme" want to check things out? I mean, he was pretty quick to question Thor and Loki when they visited earth in Ragnarok.
cav14 said:
I don't know... the fact that Agatha confesses and diabolically laughs at being a dog-killer makes her the "big bad" in my book and not a morally grey character like Loki.
Loki killed or had killed 100s to 1000s of people; some in the service of Thanos some because he too is diabolical.... and yet he gets his on tv show....cav14 said:
I don't know... the fact that Agatha confesses and diabolically laughs at being a dog-killer makes her the "big bad" in my book and not a morally grey character like Loki.
Thor : Have a care how you speak! Loki is beyond reason, but he is of Asgard and he is my brother!cav14 said:
I don't know... the fact that Agatha confesses and diabolically laughs at being a dog-killer makes her the "big bad" in my book and not a morally grey character like Loki.
