At this point, my expectations/predictions are as follows...

1) Half the episode or so will be devoted to the final battle. Likely Agatha vs. Wanda, White Vision vs. New Vision, and Pietro vs. Monica. At least to start out. The dynamics will change, of course, especially with Hayward/SWORD in the mix, and alternate/unexpected alliances will be formed.

2) White Vision and Hex Vision will of course fight, but will ultimately (and perhaps unintentionally) merge to become New Vision, so that the character can live on beyond the Hex (and in additional movies).

3) Doctor Strange appears in the final 5-10 minutes. Potentially, he shows up at the end of the final battle to help save the day/tip the scales, then takes Wanda under his wing/care, setting up Doctor Strange 2.

4) Hayward dies, as do some random SWORD agents. Everyone else lives, including Agatha and the twins.

5) However, the twins are left to someone else's care (Monica? Fury?) for proper training, while Wanda gets her sh*t together in DS2.

6) A big-bad villain reveal - the puppet master pulling the strings - setting up the villain for Doctor Strange 2. The caveat is that this is a final reveal, either in the last scene of the episode or, more likely, in a post-credits scene.

7) No Luke Skywalker-level character/actor reveal or cameo.

All that said, I'm not remotely confident in any of the above, and am most likely way off base...

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you would need a 2 hour flick for all of that to happen in though. i am really curious how they get this thing wrapped up. the way the show has been going you would really think we are hitting mid season not the last episode.

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not if there is an initial battle (fewer participants), then a secondary larger battle.

everything else just kinds of fits around those.

I'm not really listing a bunch of time-consuming stuff, though. Hardly any of it, save for the fight stuff, takes up any time at all. Outside of the fights, I'm not really describing any scenes or anything save for a potential big-bag reveal, and if post-credits, that would literally just be like thirty seconds max. Otherwise, what else are they going to do for 50 minutes?

Exactly.

They said more CGI used in this episode than in the last battle in endgame.... going out on a limb. Ow and saying some big BS

Ah, yes. Ha, that makes sense.

Damn... my fingers really need to hit the right keys more often, and auto correct just takes over! My bad.

I believe it was Paul Bethany said in an interview that they used more CGI in the last episode of wandavision than they did during the entire final battle in avengers:Endgame. I am going to call BS on that. I can't imagine this last episode is jam packed with that much CGI.

The interviewer made an offhand comment that the color of each person's magic being a different color is the MCU's version of the lightsaber.

I really hope we get some more magic on magic fighting a la light saber fight scenes whether it be in Wandavision or Doctor Strange 2

Beat40 said:

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The interviewer made an offhand comment that the color of each person's magic being a different color is the MCU's version of the lightsaber.

I really hope we get some more magic on magic fighting a la light saber fight scenes whether it be in Wandavision or Doctor Strange 2

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let's not forget. there are some ties from the upcoming Loki series into Dr Strange as well, and Loki is a big magic user.

i would not be shocked at all if the Loki series ends with him being turned into Kid Loki so he can be in the Young Avengers storylines.

Not saying this is relevant but kind of cool, not the first time musical artists crib from the story to shape the music.

I was looking on wikipedia to see who wrote each episode and read the the section about "Music" and saw this reference:

In order to tie their themes together, Lopez and Anderson-Lopez created a four-note motif that worked in each of the theme song styles. The first two notes of the motif are a major octave, and the last two are a tritone, which is also known as "the devil's interval"; this was their way of saying musically that the series was a "big bright-colored swing while also being really unsettling".Lopez described the motif as "kind of like the WandaVision call-out, easily identifiable in some way in each song" that was incorporated in different ways each time.

https://qz.com/quartzy/1429949/devils-interval-what-makes-music-sound-scary/


Played in sequence or together, the notes F and B clash in a way that feels twitchy, unnatural, foreboding. (If you don't have a keyboard handy, think of the first two notes of Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" or Metallica's "Enter Sandman"or American police sirens.)

It's this interval that folks in the dark ages and the Renaissance called diablous in musicaliterally, "Satan in music." Modern music theorists know it as the tritone (as well as a diminished fifth, or an augmented fourth), though it's also called the devil's interval or the devil's triad.

"The reason it's unsettling is that it's ambiguous, unresolved," Gerald Moshell, music professor at Trinity College in Connecticut, told NPR. "You don't know where it'll go, but it can't stop where it is."

To put it another way, if you change one of the two notes just slightly, the dissonance turns to harmony. What's really happening when we hear dissonance has to do with the relationship between frequencies.

The two pitches of the devil's interval create a much more complicated ratio of frequencies than other intervalswhich makes them, therefore, much harder for the human ear to reconcile. (For instance, using our C major example, the frequency ratio of C to G is 3:2, while for the tritone, it's 45:32, according to Classical FM.)

C@LAg said:

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Not saying this is relevant but kind of cool, not the first time musical artists crib from the story to shape the music.

I was looking on wikipedia to see who wrote each episode and read the the section about "Music" and saw this reference:

In order to tie their themes together, Lopez and Anderson-Lopez created a four-note motif that worked in each of the theme song styles. The first two notes of the motif are a major octave, and the last two are a tritone, which is also known as "the devil's interval"; this was their way of saying musically that the series was a "big bright-colored swing while also being really unsettling".Lopez described the motif as "kind of like the WandaVision call-out, easily identifiable in some way in each song" that was incorporated in different ways each time.

https://qz.com/quartzy/1429949/devils-interval-what-makes-music-sound-scary/


Played in sequence or together, the notes F and B clash in a way that feels twitchy, unnatural, foreboding. (If you don't have a keyboard handy, think of the first two notes of Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" or Metallica's "Enter Sandman"or American police sirens.)

It's this interval that folks in the dark ages and the Renaissance called diablous in musicaliterally, "Satan in music." Modern music theorists know it as the tritone (as well as a diminished fifth, or an augmented fourth), though it's also called the devil's interval or the devil's triad.

"The reason it's unsettling is that it's ambiguous, unresolved," Gerald Moshell, music professor at Trinity College in Connecticut, told NPR. "You don't know where it'll go, but it can't stop where it is."

To put it another way, if you change one of the two notes just slightly, the dissonance turns to harmony. What's really happening when we hear dissonance has to do with the relationship between frequencies.

The two pitches of the devil's interval create a much more complicated ratio of frequencies than other intervalswhich makes them, therefore, much harder for the human ear to reconcile. (For instance, using our C major example, the frequency ratio of C to G is 3:2, while for the tritone, it's 45:32, according to Classical FM.)

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I hate the circle of 5ths, when I teach my students we just do everything in a chromatic pattern, less to think about LOL was not expecting to see this video on here!

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I'm not really listing a bunch of time-consuming stuff, though. Hardly any of it, save for the fight stuff, takes up any time at all. Outside of the fights, I'm not really describing any scenes or anything save for a potential big-bag reveal, and if post-credits, that would literally just be like thirty seconds max. Otherwise, what else are they going to do for 50 minutes?

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Agree about possible post credits scene.

Post credits scene could really be as simple as the book falls off the shelf and flips through pages and we see a silhouette of a figure emerge.

Or the basement collapses after a battle and a bunch of red smoke seeps up through the rubble.

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7) No Luke Skywalker-level character/actor reveal or cameo.

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Does Dr. Strange showing up to clean up the mess not qualify as this?

Is Wanda supposed to make an appearance in DrStrange 2?

So....Yes?

Short of Tony Stark showing up alive, is there anyone that could come close to the "Luke" reveal. I just don't think it's possible.

Chadwick Boseman.

Hugh Jackman Wolverine.

Old Cap?

Even Stark wouldn't be on Luke's level, IMO.

I think the only one that would be close is if they had footage of T'Challa/ Chadwick Boseman... and that doesn't make any sense.

This whole cameo thing got blown way out of proportion. Sounds like even the director is trying to tamper expectations for the finale.


Edit : beat to the punch by 1 minute.

It apparently took me two minutes to come up with those since CapitolAg posted after I clicked reply but befor I hit post.