Now you have me thinking about some details I want to go back and watch. It feels like there are times where Vision can only do things he's directed to do.
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Farmer1906 said:
I think Vision is just fast. It doesn't have anything to do with Quicksilver.
That might be the case, I can't speak to his comic book powers. It's just interesting that in the mcu we've never seen that side of him before. But it's been a fairly common feature in the show, which leads me (perhaps as a red herring) to wonder if there's more to it.
I think Wanda gave him some of her brother's powers as well.
texasaggie04 said:Farmer1906 said:
I think Vision is just fast. It doesn't have anything to do with Quicksilver.
That might be the case, I can't speak to his comic book powers. It's just interesting that in the mcu we've never seen that side of him before. But it's been a fairly common feature in the show, which leads me (perhaps as a red herring) to wonder if there's more to it.
I'm not sure if it's related to quicksilver or not but it DEFINITELY resembles quicksilver a powers and I DEFINITELY don't remember Vision being associated with that power. I tend to think there is something to it... not just coincidental.
I've always been told that when it comes to movies and TV shows, the things they say and do on camera all have a purpose... everything is for a reason. So, I tend not to think it's just happenstance.
I also tend to think that is actually Visions body, and not just Wandas imagination. Think about how in that scene reality is starting to impose on the sitcom world with Geraldine/Monica and Wanda is emotionally weak in that moment... She's a little surprised and maybe disappointed with herself for disproportionately blowing up Monica to the moment... then she has to put everything back together again... then Vision comes in, as he actually is, and when she sees him, she gasped and looks away... recomposes herself (perhaps to put him back to pleasant view) then he's back to normal again.
Plus, as someone else mentioned, Vision is questioning this "perfect space" through several episodes and she undoes every one of his moments.
By the way, that scene (grey vision) was absolutely breathtaking. Couldn't believe how effective such a simple shot was... the music didn't even cheapen it... it was a soft music hit, not a cheap horror loud music hit.
Plus, as someone else mentioned, Vision is questioning this "perfect space" through several episodes and she undoes every one of his moments.
By the way, that scene (grey vision) was absolutely breathtaking. Couldn't believe how effective such a simple shot was... the music didn't even cheapen it... it was a soft music hit, not a cheap horror loud music hit.
To me it makes sense that she could rebuild the mind stone and actually recreate Vision. That would be a pretty standard comic book move. However, I don't see the MCU going that direction and really bringing him back. So maybe he's real but without the stone (maybe Agnes or hydra magic), or maybe he's real but can only be held together within a Wanda bubble. (Which leads us to kind of a WW84 ending)
Still I expect Wanda to fully lose it and disappear at the end of this show, setting up the Dr Strange plot.
Still I expect Wanda to fully lose it and disappear at the end of this show, setting up the Dr Strange plot.
When Wanda sent Monica flying through the walls, was that the first time in this "show" that her powers had the red aether-like cloud she usually has? She looked at her hands in a weird way right after as the red was fading.
When she was trying to get rid of the stork she did so with a red poof of magic.
I think her magic effect is being displayed using the special effects available in the decade they're representing. So the modern red magic only showed up when she broke the fourth wall and stopped pretending to be in the other decade.
It just occurred how funny it is that when Wanda basically acknowledged the show isn't real, she kicked Monica out by literally breaking the fourth wall and then putting it back together again .
I think her magic effect is being displayed using the special effects available in the decade they're representing. So the modern red magic only showed up when she broke the fourth wall and stopped pretending to be in the other decade.
It just occurred how funny it is that when Wanda basically acknowledged the show isn't real, she kicked Monica out by literally breaking the fourth wall and then putting it back together again .
Thanks and gig'em
Is it true they're dropping 5 and 6 on Friday?
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
I heard the rumor since major episode 6 spoilers have already leaked
agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
Apparently my friend can't read. He saw an article about premiering with 1-2.
I do wonder how quickly Strange got to his buddies and told them the game plan. They got there QUICK.
Well, he knew the plan before they even fought Thanos on titan. So maybe his bros were prepared.
Some of y'all either have bad memories or just don't pay attention to what's on screen. It was a fairly big and memorable scene in Endgame showing how everyone got to the battlefield.
My only hangup with the portals is that if Dr Strange can use his portal to beam everyone across the galaxy, then why didn't he just do that when they were on the donut ship instead of asking Tony Stark to turn the ship around?YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
Saxsoon said:
2 episodes this week confirmed then
B/c they wanted to ambush Thanos there on Titan as they knew he was coming and felt they had the advantage in that he wasn't aware that there was more than just Dr. Strange waiting for him.cav14 said:My only hangup with the portals is that if Dr Strange can use his portal to beam everyone across the galaxy, then why didn't he just do that when they were on the donut ship instead of asking Tony Stark to turn the ship around?YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
Remember, they had Strange, Spidey, Tony, Quill, Mantis and Drax and that is before Nebula showed up during the fight. Thanos thought he'd find Ebony Maw there with Strange. Maw was dead and the other Black Order member was left back in the Artic on Earth when Strange portaled him there.
Everyone's been so focused on who blipped where but the real tragedy is people who died because of the snap but weren't snapped themselves. Like you're in the backseat and your driver gets snapped and you die in a car wreck.
Those poor folks are just dead. No blipping back for them.
Those poor folks are just dead. No blipping back for them.
duh....my bad....completely forgot about that.YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
cav14 said:My only hangup with the portals is that if Dr Strange can use his portal to beam everyone across the galaxy, then why didn't he just do that when they were on the donut ship instead of asking Tony Stark to turn the ship around?YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
One does not simply teleport into Titan
Yes I know about that plan which Tony Stark proposed to Strange when they were arguing with each other on the ship as far as what to do next. But it still stands that Strange initially wanted to go back to Earth... hence why he asked Tony to turn the ship around. My question is why did Strange even need to ask at all if all he could just have done was sling ring portal his way immediately back to Earth himself?Capitol Ag said:B/c they wanted to ambush Thanos there on Titan as they knew he was coming and felt they had the advantage in that he wasn't aware that there was more than just Dr. Strange waiting for him.cav14 said:My only hangup with the portals is that if Dr Strange can use his portal to beam everyone across the galaxy, then why didn't he just do that when they were on the donut ship instead of asking Tony Stark to turn the ship around?YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
Remember, they had Strange, Spidey, Tony, Quill, Mantis and Drax and that is before Nebula showed up during the fight. Thanos thought he'd find Ebony Maw there with Strange. Maw was dead and the other Black Order member was left back in the Artic on Earth when Strange portaled him there.
Maybe there's a weight limit on the portals and he wanted to keep the ship.
It's a sweet ship.
He already simmed over 14,000,000 possibilities that failed. Surely it was considered in those.cav14 said:Yes I know about that plan which Tony Stark proposed to Strange when they were arguing with each other on the ship as far as what to do next. But it still stands that Strange initially wanted to go back to Earth... hence why he asked Tony to turn the ship around. My question is why did Strange even need to ask at all if all he could just have done was sling ring portal his way immediately back to Earth himself?Capitol Ag said:B/c they wanted to ambush Thanos there on Titan as they knew he was coming and felt they had the advantage in that he wasn't aware that there was more than just Dr. Strange waiting for him.cav14 said:My only hangup with the portals is that if Dr Strange can use his portal to beam everyone across the galaxy, then why didn't he just do that when they were on the donut ship instead of asking Tony Stark to turn the ship around?YellowPot_97 said:agracer said:
The 4th episode last night showed everyone reappearing where they disappeared. If that were true, how did Spider Man/Guardians get back to earth so quick in End Game? Their were NO SHIPS on Titan. Stark and Nebula barely made it back in a derelict ship they pieced together.
Do you not remember all the portals that Strange and his wizard buddies made? There were dozens of them.
Remember, they had Strange, Spidey, Tony, Quill, Mantis and Drax and that is before Nebula showed up during the fight. Thanos thought he'd find Ebony Maw there with Strange. Maw was dead and the other Black Order member was left back in the Artic on Earth when Strange portaled him there.
Seems like a bit of hyperbole. I'm not sure that there's a single Marvel character that would rival Luke at this point.
Spoiler tagging my guesses in case some don't like speculation:
Iron Man?
Black Panther if they filmed something a while back?
X-Men character?
Spider-Man (not Tom Holland) - lead into next phase
Spoiler tagging my guesses in case some don't like speculation:
Iron Man?
Black Panther if they filmed something a while back?
X-Men character?
Spider-Man (not Tom Holland) - lead into next phase
One of my friends predicted Fantastic Four, but that's not a "vet".
I'm sure it's Doctor Strange or someone that leads into one of the other shows based on existing characters.
I'm sure it's Doctor Strange or someone that leads into one of the other shows based on existing characters.
I'm not spoiler tagging guesses.
Other potential surprises, some of which probably don't make sense
Falcon (nowhere close to Luke)
Cap, a literal Vet in more ways than one.
Black Widow (if vision is alive in a not reincarnated way, why couldn't she?)
Red Skull - guide to the soul stone, Wanda could be doing soul type power
Loki - who knows wtf he's up to
And, obviously, it won't be as stunning by virtue of giving everyone a heads up. So, I agree that it's just hype train.
Other potential surprises, some of which probably don't make sense
Falcon (nowhere close to Luke)
Cap, a literal Vet in more ways than one.
Black Widow (if vision is alive in a not reincarnated way, why couldn't she?)
Red Skull - guide to the soul stone, Wanda could be doing soul type power
Loki - who knows wtf he's up to
And, obviously, it won't be as stunning by virtue of giving everyone a heads up. So, I agree that it's just hype train.
Charles Xavier makes the most sense from a storyline perspective - someone needs to get in her head, and the mutant connection (yeah, I know they started down a different route with her, but that can be retconned)
Doesn't fit the criteria for "MCU vet."
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