I question Old Main's commitment to the cause. He can get us into the SEC but can't change a simple logo? Something isn't right here.
Letter to the Leadership of Texas A&M regarding the Bevel
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I question Old Main's commitment to the cause. He can get us into the SEC but can't change a simple logo? Something isn't right here.
He got military walk renovated faster than he's convinced the admin to ditch the bevel
Let's just face it. Old Main wasn't committed. If he had just spent a little time on it and maybe had the slightest commitment he could have seen this grand project through.
I'd love nothing more than to see the bevel die.....
Bevel Sucks!
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I question Old Main's commitment to the cause. He can get us into the SEC but can't change a simple logo? Something isn't right here.
You think he could get us into the NFC East?
Bevel
I can go either way.
However, if we have the bevel, at least make it accurate. In the OP there are beveled ATM logos that look very sharp. Unlike our current logo.
However, if we have the bevel, at least make it accurate. In the OP there are beveled ATM logos that look very sharp. Unlike our current logo.
I like the bevel
BEVELS seems to be the Herpes of Texas A&M. No one wants it, irritating, unsightly, and seems to be a mistake that won't EVER go away. Oh, and from the looks of it, we got it from Tech...
http://nobevel.com
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http://nobevel.com
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I think the reason they have not changed it is because the majority of faculty, admin, former students, and donors really don't care about the bevel. If people cared they would have already changed it.
That and it actually looks more professional and official than the alternative
The bevel is the one and only thing I hate about my beloved A&M.
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That and it actually looks more professional and official than the alternative
JJxvi,
How is bad geometry more professional? Geometry is math - it is either correct or incorrect. Our bevel is incorrect.
Texas A&M has programs in engineering, construction science, architecture, visualization, and many others based in part on geometry. You would think that getting the geometry correct on the official logo would be important.
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That and it actually looks more professional and official than the alternative
How is bad geometry more professional? Geometry is math - it is either correct or incorrect. Our bevel is incorrect.
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Let it go old man
It's amusing that Old Main thinks that logo creation is scientific, rather than artistic design.
I like the bevel on our jersey numbers.
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It's amusing that Old Main thinks that logo creation is scientific, rather than artistic design.
MarathonAg03,
If this is really art we need a new artist!
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artistic or scientific really doesn't matter to me.....I view it as a tradition thing. One of the things that makes A&M so special is our traditions and how much respect we have for them. To me the block aTm was more of a tradition thing. Kinda like how the Red Sox or the Yankees have never really changed their logo. It really started bothering me when I realized we were the only school in the SEC that has a beveled logo....also when I found out what other schools have beveled logos....we don't want to be associated with them........the block is simple and strong....nuff said
I agree. The Bevel is more of a virus than a tradition.
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Sorry. But a logo is not "geometry." It is art.
I stand by what I said that the logo with the bevel looks more professional as a mark than the blank aTm you espouse. I don't dispute your assertion that a clean logo with no bevel can look good, but IMO there is years and years of history that shows not only does the plan mark lend itself to *******ization (ie anyone can use a typeface font to create a facsimile of the logo that looks similar to the official one and slap it on merchandise, print, or a website) whereas since the presence of the bevel and A&M's push to standardize merchandise, I can now usually easily tell through the bevel what is official and what "looks fake."
If you want to get rid of the bevel, I think you have to redesign the logo completely so that the shape or base design is more distinctive (like the Tennessee T you seem to love) or find a new type of accent design that works better than the bevel.
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I stand by what I said that the logo with the bevel looks more professional as a mark than the blank aTm you espouse. I don't dispute your assertion that a clean logo with no bevel can look good, but IMO there is years and years of history that shows not only does the plan mark lend itself to *******ization (ie anyone can use a typeface font to create a facsimile of the logo that looks similar to the official one and slap it on merchandise, print, or a website) whereas since the presence of the bevel and A&M's push to standardize merchandise, I can now usually easily tell through the bevel what is official and what "looks fake."
If you want to get rid of the bevel, I think you have to redesign the logo completely so that the shape or base design is more distinctive (like the Tennessee T you seem to love) or find a new type of accent design that works better than the bevel.
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You also seem to try and make "correct bevels" by adding extra shading colors to your design. Those would wash out and blend or not show up on many applications. You don't know what you're doing.
The bevel looks like dung and everybody knows it
Will the back of the new scoreboard have the world's largest bevel?
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Sorry. But a logo is not "geometry." It is art.
The Texas Tech logo is geometrically correct and it achieves what they were going for. I honestly would not call the A&M beveled logo art. If you are trying to go for a 3-D effect using bevels the geometry has to be right or it doesn't work.
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I stand by what I said that the logo with the bevel looks more professional as a mark than the blank aTm you espouse. I don't dispute your assertion that a clean logo with no bevel can look good, but IMO there is years and years of history that shows not only does the plan mark lend itself to *******ization (ie anyone can use a typeface font to create a facsimile of the logo that looks similar to the official one and slap it on merchandise, print, or a website) whereas since the presence of the bevel and A&M's push to standardize merchandise, I can now usually easily tell through the bevel what is official and what "looks fake."
If someone wants to fake something with the beveled logo they can get that artwork (from the internet) just as easily as the Block aTm logo. Both the Block aTm and the Bevel are protected trademarks. Texas A&M protects aTm logos just like they protect the 12th Man trademark. They go after merchandise that isn't licensed. The bevel has nothing to do with it.
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artistic or scientific really doesn't matter to me.....I view it as a tradition thing. One of the things that makes A&M so special is our traditions and how much respect we have for them. To me the block aTm was more of a tradition thing. Kinda like how the Red Sox or the Yankees have never really changed their logo. It really started bothering me when I realized we were the only school in the SEC that has a beveled logo....also when I found out what other schools have beveled logos....we don't want to be associated with them........the block is simple and strong....nuff said
There are many other traditions that are disappearing from campus that you should be more worried about. Try saying howdy to a current student next time you're on campus. Or check to see how those students in the bleachers sit down during commercial breaks in the second half. See how those traditions are being continued.
Anything this trivial that creates this much angst should be kept forever.
I could feel the slow death of Howdy during my time on campus starting in 08. Each year it was said less and less
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artistic or scientific really doesn't matter to me.....I view it as a tradition thing. One of the things that makes A&M so special is our traditions and how much respect we have for them. To me the block aTm was more of a tradition thing. Kinda like how the Red Sox or the Yankees have never really changed their logo. It really started bothering me when I realized we were the only school in the SEC that has a beveled logo....also when I found out what other schools have beveled logos....we don't want to be associated with them........the block is simple and strong....nuff said
The only tradition Texas A&M has, when it comes to the logo, is change.
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I could feel the slow death of Howdy during my time on campus starting in 08. Each year it was said less and less
I always said howdy to the hotties
Bevel
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I could feel the slow death of Howdy during my time on campus starting in 08. Each year it was said less and less
I always said howdy to the hotties
I would say howdy then snatch a quick glance as soon as they walked by, especially on leggings day
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I could feel the slow death of Howdy during my time on campus starting in 08. Each year it was said less and less
I always said howdy to the hotties
I would say howdy then snatch a quick glance as soon as they walked by, especially on leggings day
I miss leggings so much. No one wears those to work
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You think he could get us into the NFC East?
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I could feel the slow death of Howdy during my time on campus starting in 08. Each year it was said less and less
I blame MCA. I'd always say howdy, he'd say hi.