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Letter to the Leadership of Texas A&M regarding the Bevel

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WaffleHouseAg
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I cant figure out if 12 ag is old as hell or a flaming compulsive nerd


Another example of personal attacks rather than discussing the merits of the issues.


which is it?
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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You wanna know what i think. Go read the first 2 or 3 pages of this stupid thread. Embarrassing
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I thought I would catch up on some light reading so I pulled down War and Peace from the bookshelf. Then I thought, naw, too long a read. I go to TexAgs and started reading this thread. I chose poorly.
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12th ag I just re read your post and I have to admit, I have never read a worse argument in my life. That sucked.


Again, you attack me and provide no explanation as to why my argument has flaws. Anyone can just say someone else's opinion is wrong if they do not provide a logical explanation as to "why". You remind me of a guy that once told me he hated a certain talk show host. I asked why and he said he didn't agree with him. I asked him to name a few things specifically, and he could not name a single thing. Really thought provoking.

[This message has been edited by 12th Ag (edited 6/11/2013 10:21p).]
Personal Best
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God, I like Texas Aggies better too, but the way you argue things is way over the top and aggressive. When I read your points my first inclination is to point out why you are choosing bad points and are presenting them in inappropriate ways. You argue in a very divisive and angry way.

You make me want to disagree with things that I like because of the way you debate.

Is that personal enough?
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And lat, your business savy is pretty lacking. Companies have been crippled by the inefficiency and impossibility of trying to please all customers. And I think you're trying to use the 80/20 rule to support your claim of not ignoring some customers. I'm sure the people who aren't purchasing beveled items don't make up 80% of historic revenues.
Gregory House
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Here's my OPINION:

This thread is a ****ing microcosm of our culture in the 21st Century. It's a logo, for a resource sapping, bloated state institution who's only claim for your attention, at least on this site, is a GAME played by kids (or barely men)...

The fact that some obviously intelligent people are getting so worked up as to personally attack others (yes, Ragnar D and STX, you are personally attacking other people, as have many others on this site) is truly mind boggling.

What does this amount to in the end? A logo on ESPN or a baseball hat or a polo style shirt? The letterhead on your personal stationary that happens to be a representation of your longing to belong so much that your only claim to "fame" is the university you attended? Seriously, this is what you are hacking each other to pieces in the Internet about?

If one of you pulled his head out of his ass long enough to breathe clean air for three minutes and put this energy into something that actually matters, there's no telling what you could accomplish.

But hell no, you'd rather argue about three bars on a ****ing T, or personally attack someone for not liking the three bars on a ****ing T than do something of actual consequence...

Here's a ****ing hint: the bevel doesn't matter, and neither does the opinion of a few self important people that hate the bevel.

Or at least discuss it without tearing each other down. You'd think that this site was full of a bunch of kids that got their **** kicked in on the playground and are out for revenge....

I am not an Aggie, but from what I know about them, you guys should be better than this.


12th Ag
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12th Ag, maybe the "bevel lovers" are just ****ing tired of your dumb ass bumping this thread with a thumbs up and no additional content every day. Nobody cares. People aren't even attacking the bevel. They're attacking the fact that you are and old main are obnoxious idiots for taking this **** so seriously.


1. Again, personal attacks rather than logical discussion of the merits of the issues.
2. Every time you post a personal attack on this thread, you yourself are bumping the thread back up to the top, the very thing you are attacking me about.
3. I have provided tons of additional content.
4. You used five curse words and/or insulting names in the quote above and then accused ME and Old Main of being serious. Wow. Do you see any hypocrisy in that AT ALL? Why does the Staff not care about this kind of language! It is obvious what you said and all one has to do is hit the quote button and one sees an uncensored version of what you wrote.
5. You say nobody cares. there are lots of posters on TexAgs who have voiced that they DO care.



[This message has been edited by 12th Ag (edited 6/11/2013 10:40p).]
Lateralus Ag
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And lat, your business savy is pretty lacking. Companies have been crippled by the inefficiency and impossibility of trying to please all customers. And I think you're trying to use the 80/20 rule to support your claim of not ignoring some customers. I'm sure the people who aren't purchasing beveled items don't make up 80% of historic revenues.


I am not referring to the Pareto Principle. I said that good companies FOCUS ON reaching customers that they can get through product differentiation, price points, etc.

All companies ALL COMPANIES focus some part of their energies on lost revenues, whether they realize it or not.

That is not the same thing as trying to please all customers...

[This message has been edited by Lateralus ag (edited 6/11/2013 10:46p).]
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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Ok, you win. You officially trolled me into this.

What i think is...if it aint broke, dont fix it. if the marketing dept thought to change it years ago. Then it must have been broken or needing a tune up.

Fact: sales have never been higher than they are now.

Why change it? Because you and a small % here on the.....drum roll, internet dont like it? wow!

Heres a thought. Dont waste your time campaigning to change it. Get a new hobby or get more friends. To exert all this effort and time means you have too much time on your hands

Also, there is more than enough non beveled merchandise available. I for one know this because i own some. So both sides are covered yet anti bevel obsessing Ags want it their way

Go back and check Aggie history. I have because im redass like that. Many and i mean many things have changed over the years when it comes to the uniforms and so forth. Example: lightening bolts on the sides of aggie helmets with NO block A&M on the helmet. Black helmets were used years ago

Please for the love of all that is holy. Stop with this. I once thought this was a typical texags joke. Now that i know its real its just embarrassing
Personal Best
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Woah.. All that was pretty personal.

Edit: To lat

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Lateralus Ag
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Woah.. All that was pretty personal.

Edit: To lat

[This message has been edited by Personal Best (edited 6/11/2013 10:43p).]


I like you as a poster and think we would get a long outside of this ****ing place. Sorry for attacking you personally. I will edit my post.
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Back at ya.. This bevel is tearing us apart. I apologize.
12th Ag
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God, I like Texas Aggies better too, but the way you argue things is way over the top and aggressive. When I read your points my first inclination is to point out why you are choosing bad points and are presenting them in inappropriate ways. You argue in a very divisive and angry way.

You make me want to disagree with things that I like because of the way you debate.

Is that personal enough?


I am totally amazed by you accusing me of being overly aggressive, when I am being called insulting names and having curse words thrown at me like rain. Do you REALLY think that repeatedly making direct personal insults and calling someone names and cursing at them is NOT overly aggressive and over the top?
Lateralus Ag
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Back at ya.. This bevel is tearing us apart. I apologize.


I know...damn thing...

It's cool. I am done with this whole discussion. I feel like I got sucked into an argument about something that really doesn't matter...damn I hate when I do that.

Sorry guys. Thanks and Gig em.

Rags, you're still fired.
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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LOCK THIS THREAD
ElephantRider
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Get a room, Lat and PB
Lateralus Ag
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Get a room, Lat and PB


Says the hooker with a *****....

And just FYI ER, that WAS a personal attack..

Damn sellout.
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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When are the gaybies due and what will yall name them?
WaffleHouseAg
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Kill this thread
Personal Best
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Get a room, Lat and PB

Haha.

I'm outta here too.

12th Ag, for the record the reason people call you names is because you're a common troll. From the threads you start, to the posts you make you are a full time troll.

Peace
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I despise the bevel and wish it would go the way of the dinosaurs but if it must stay then it should be everywhere - even and especially on our helmets.
We already ave bevels on the pants, gloves, and now cleats - keep it consistent.
ElephantRider
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Lat is having PBs butt babies?


And Lat, I believe you know what my response to that is. BTW, you ever listen to any Jason Isbell?
12th Ag
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Ok, you win. You officially trolled me into this.

What i think is...if it aint broke, dont fix it. if the marketing dept thought to change it years ago. Then it must have been broken or needing a tune up.

Fact: sales have never been higher than they are now.

Why change it? Because you and a small % here on the.....drum roll, internet dont like it? wow!

Heres a thought. Dont waste your time campaigning to change it. Get a new hobby or get more friends. To exert all this effort and time means you have too much time on your hands

Also, there is more than enough non beveled merchandise available. I for one know this because i own some. So both sides are covered yet anti bevel obsessing Ags want it their way

Go back and check Aggie history. I have because im redass like that. Many and i mean many things have changed over the years when it comes to the uniforms and so forth. Example: lightening bolts on the sides of aggie helmets with NO block A&M on the helmet. Black helmets were used years ago

Please for the love of all that is holy. Stop with this. I once thought this was a typical texags joke. Now that i know its real its just embarrassing


Thank you for the advice on how to live my life and what I should consider important.

I take this just as seriously as a sip would take it if Dodds decided to put nostrils on the bevo logo. Dodds has ruined a lot of things for tu, but if he did that he would be toast,, because a school's logo IS important.

If it is not important to you, then why did you post such a long emotional post? If the bevel is not so important, then why can't we just get rid of it?


[This message has been edited by 12th Ag (edited 6/11/2013 11:01p).]
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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Its not. Hence why i own both types. I chimed in because you trolled me. You are so obsessive over something so minute, it has worked the nerves of mine and others (obviously) its embarrassing and we are hoping yall will stop already.
Lateralus Ag
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Lat is having PBs butt babies?


And Lat, I believe you know what my response to that is. BTW, you ever listen to any Jason Isbell?


I know spare me the pointing of the finger up my own ass...

Not familiar with Jason Isbell. Should I become familiar?
12th Ag
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Get a room, Lat and PB

Haha.

I'm outta here too.

12th Ag, for the record the reason people call you names is because you're a common troll. From the threads you start, to the posts you make you are a full time troll.

Peace


So, you are rationalizing why it is OK for you or others to personally attack others and call them insulting names and curse at them. If someone posts an opinion that is different than yours then they "must" be a troll and it is OK to treat them as mean spirited as you want. History is full of organizations and people that think this way..."end justifies means".

But I suppose your closing with the word "peace" means you really took the high road.

[This message has been edited by 12th Ag (edited 6/11/2013 11:09p).]
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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Dont get rid of it because its not broke


Sincerely,
Sales
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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12th Ag

You keep pointing out the personal attacks. What about your post padding? Rules are rules
ElephantRider
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Not familiar with Jason Isbell. Should I become familiar?

Our musical tastes seem to overlap quite a bit, I was just curious. He used to be in DBT (wrote/sang several of their best songs). New album dropped today and it's ****ing fantastic

12th Ag
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Dont get rid of it because its not broke


Sincerely,
Sales


Sales, you are fired.

Boss
Brick Tamland
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12th Ag calling people out on "personal attacks" is rich considering he trolls by saying anyone who doesn't agree with him (insert negative phrase here).
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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Actually the boss is by far more experienced and qualified than you and is employed still

Nice try
WaffleHouseAg
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You attack me daily 12th Ag
Alois von Schweinsteiger
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How old are you 12th Ag?
 
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