Mag, I am in the very staunch anti-bevel crowd. I guess I just really don't understand why people are in support of it. I understand the apathy of, it is what it is, but there are Ags out there who outright hate it, myself included. It could be attributed to the fact that I have an engineering degree from our fine university, and know that it looks absurd, but its mostly from the fact that, when you look at the Block ATM on our football helmet, what is wrong with that? Absolutely nothing. There is not one single thing anyone can look at that and say, no I dont like this, I dont like that. But you throw a bevel on and all the sudden its almost like a democrat v. republican argument. I have not met a single Ag, who given the choice, prefers bevel to non-bevel. Some may be apathetic, and I understand that, but the vocal minority who don't like it at all, I guess we just don't understand why anyone would prefer it, given the alternative. A great university like A&M deserves better than that trash, and I wish that we had a forum, other than TexAgs, to make that point. This is basically the only outlet where, hell, almost 50,000 people have at least seen this thread, and probably have one view or another, but this is an issue that should at least be addressed and talked about. That's all I'm saying. Old Main made a great argument and people seemed to have just blown off all that he did. I don't think thats right, and I think its something that is worth addressing.