BroncStomper06 said:

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I just recently got the AR-15 bug and am learning so much from this thread. Everyone's insight is much appreciated. For my first jump into the platform I have decided to buy a complete rifle and then do a build once I am more knowledgeable of everything. I plan to use it to help with my hog problem, maybe take a deer or two, but mainly just to enjoy on the range. Although I like the idea of being able to really reach out, I doubt that I will realistically be shooting much over 300 yds. All that being said, I have an opportunity to basically pick anything currently offered from Windham Weaponry. I am not really familiar with them and haven't seen Windham mentioned a whole lot on this thread, but given my status, what would you all recommend?

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BroncStomper06 said:

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This is right in line with my initial thoughts. Any specific models you would recommend? Picking from their site, I'm not clear on which is free float, has a two stage trigger, etc. I do really like the looks of the CDI, however. I will most likely add the Vortex Strike Eagle for my glass.

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AGricola08 said:

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re: CharlieBrown, I got a catalog not too long ago from Brownells that had a bunch of vietnam era style ar/m16 parts. Might check that out....

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BroncStomper06 said:

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Thanks for sharing the article. Good info. Windham wasn't really on my radar, but I have a buddy with connections there that owes me a favor. Worst case, I will get it at wholesale. Disappointed to read that about the CDI, as it appears that that is there only model with a ff handguard - although I could be mistaken.

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JRizzle said:

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I just received my PSA rifle build kit. Will go get a lower today.

Anyone know if the triggers they ship with are any good or should I upgrade trigger? PSA has a good deal on a giessele trigger with 10pmags right now.

I've never built one so this is a project gun just to learn how things work.

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BroncStomper06 said:

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Thanks for sharing the article. Good info. Windham wasn't really on my radar, but I have a buddy with connections there that owes me a favor. Worst case, I will get it at wholesale. Disappointed to read that about the CDI, as it appears that that is there only model with a ff handguard - although I could be mistaken.

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3rdGenAg05 said:

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You have a lot of military gear and seem to know your gear, but it doesn't look like you're in the military. What's your story?

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3rdGenAg05 said:

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I don't; so I asked for his story. My only assumption thus far is that he drinks Dos XX (when he drinks beer).
No need for sad faces buddy.

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TheEyeGuy said:

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It's not H&Ks fault on this. It's the German government. It was hell just getting the SP5K (mp5 pistol) exported to us, much less that.

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"Like we mentioned before, the MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that's technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that's it." Mike Cabrera of Heckler & Koch Law Enforcement Sales and veteran law enforcement officer with SWAT unit experience points out that "this is a gun that you do not want in the wrong, slimy hands. It comes with semi-automatic and full-auto firing modes only. Its overall size places it between a handgun and submachine gun. Its assault rifle capabilities and small size make this a serious weapon that should not be taken lightly."

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txyaloo said:

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In the past, HK has said the MP7 is non-sporting so they won't bring it to the US. It's effectively too much for American consumers to handle. Maybe their attitude has changed in the last few years with building the MR series here along with new imports of the MP5, but HK GmbH generally has an f-you attitude toward the American tactical rifle market.

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"Like we mentioned before, the MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that's technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that's it." Mike Cabrera of Heckler & Koch Law Enforcement Sales and veteran law enforcement officer with SWAT unit experience points out that "this is a gun that you do not want in the wrong, slimy hands. It comes with semi-automatic and full-auto firing modes only. Its overall size places it between a handgun and submachine gun. Its assault rifle capabilities and small size make this a serious weapon that should not be taken lightly."

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txyaloo said:

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In the past, HK has said the MP7 is non-sporting so they won't bring it to the US. It's effectively too much for American consumers to handle. Maybe their attitude has changed in the last few years with building the MR series here along with new imports of the MP5, but HK GmbH generally has an f-you attitude toward the American tactical rifle market.

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"Like we mentioned before, the MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that's technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that's it." Mike Cabrera of Heckler & Koch Law Enforcement Sales and veteran law enforcement officer with SWAT unit experience points out that "this is a gun that you do not want in the wrong, slimy hands. It comes with semi-automatic and full-auto firing modes only. Its overall size places it between a handgun and submachine gun. Its assault rifle capabilities and small size make this a serious weapon that should not be taken lightly."

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Uh, that statement was made by the editor of Recoil magazine, not any H&K employee.

H&K actually did issue a statement after he said such a stupid thing.

"Some readers have misinterpreted a recent feature story in RECOIL magazine as a reflection of HK policy. Heckler & Koch has a long presence in the US civilian market and throughout that time has been an ardent and passionate supporter of the Second Amendment and the American civilian shooter. This will always be the case. The contents, opinions, and statements expressed in that feature story are those of the writer, not Heckler and Koch's. Additionally, the writer and RECOIL magazine have issued a clarification and apology for the ill-chosen words used in the story.
The HK MP7A1 4.6 mm Personal Defense Weapon mentioned in the story is a selective-fire product (capable of "full automatic" fire) and is currently restricted to military and law enforcement agencies by BATF. HK-USA has previously researched introducing similar commercial products, chambered in 4.6 mm, but it was determined that the final product would not have enough appeal or be legally feasible.
Heckler & Koch USA"

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I don't; so I asked for his story. My only assumption thus far is that he drinks Dos XX (when he drinks beer).
No need for sad faces buddy.

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Scroll back 2-3 pages. He tells his story.

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AgLA06 said:

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Interesting strategy Cotton:

"We've designed this so that it's too good of a weapon for the average person."

Hard to get. I like it.

So how much longer does it take before everyone is in a complete lather so they can start selling them.

I'm assuming they're a privately or government owned and financed because share holders would have executed someone by now for finding excuses to not make money.

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3rdGenAg05 said:

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I don't; so I asked for his story. My only assumption thus far is that he drinks Dos XX (when he drinks beer).
No need for sad faces buddy.

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