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In reply to 35chililights • 3:49p, 7/2/16
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Iffffff you were to go with a new optic....

My choices would either this or this
That strike eagle is what i put on top my 300blk. For 300 bucks, its pretty damned good.
FYI that PA optic is made in the same factory as the vortex.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 5:12p, 7/2/16
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Those of you who have way more experience than I... vertical, angled or hand stop? I think im leaning angled
I prefer a stubby vertical as far out on the handguard as possible. Gives me the most control.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 5:19p, 7/2/16
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Those of you who have way more experience than I... vertical, angled or hand stop? I think im leaning angled


Plenty of experience with all of them. If you know what you're doing it won't matter at all. If you're new to ARs, I still don't think it will matter much. 90 percent for looks.
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6:00p, 7/3/16
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I'm going with the Strike Eagle on my grab bag gun.
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8:59p, 7/3/16
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Tell me about twist...556 in 1x7 or 1x8

I don't have enough experience to pick???
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9:36p, 7/3/16
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6 of one, half dozen of another.
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In reply to Our-turn-to-rule • 7:28a, 7/4/16
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Tell me about twist...556 in 1x7 or 1x8

If this is your first AR and you are going to be shooting mostly 55gn or 62gn (M855) then either one if fine. Twist has impact on the stability of a bullet in a ratio to the length of the bullet. There are various formulas for calculating it and many online twist rate calculators but here's a good chart for general explanation.



90% of the ammo on the shelf at your local outdoor store will be some variety of 55gn or 62gn and a few 65 grain varieties of 5.56mm/.223. The Military's first generation 5.56mm round was the M193 with a 55gn FMBJ and the most common current round is the M855 which is 62gn with a steel core pentrator,
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10:48a, 7/4/16
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Keep in mind that it's going to be very difficult to load anything above 77 gr to magazine length. I think even the 75 gr Hornady amax won't fit in a magazine when properly loaded.

So like Charlie Brown said, it doesn't matter. That chart is more useful (at the high end) for bolt-action or single shot rifles.
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In reply to CactusThomas • 12:29p, 7/4/16
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Keep in mind that it's going to be very difficult to load anything above 77 gr to magazine length. I think even the 75 gr Hornady amax won't fit in a magazine when properly loaded.

So like Charlie Brown said, it doesn't matter. That chart is more useful (at the high end) for bolt-action or single shot rifles.
I think the chart is useful for showing what twist CAN do but a lot of people blindly follow it. I have a 1:7 that seems to love 55 FMJ and 60 Vmax and hasn't shot the heavier stuff near as well.

Basically, get anything 1:7-1:9 and buy 6 or 7 different types of round to see what works for your gun.
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8:11a, 7/8/16
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Not a hunter, this is purely for home defense/SHTF scenarios.

And because i grew up in a country with no 2nd amendment.

Thanks for all the info.


Budget around $1000

On my AR-15:
I would like a foregrip
Purely aesthetic- i like the Picattinny rails - how much will that will push up the cost?
I'm thinking 18'' barrel
don't think i need a scope to begin with.
What options do i have on the front sight?

EyeGuy, do i get a texags discount if I visit your store in Houston? :-)
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8:13a, 7/8/16
If you are buying for home defense I would say get a 16" barrel.
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In reply to 26.2 • 11:16a, 7/8/16
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If it's pure home defense, I would build/buy a pistol with a shorter barrel.
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11:20a, 7/8/16
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1:7 to eat my 77gr OTM.
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11:27a, 7/8/16
You don't use a AR for home defense....
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 11:29a, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 11:29a, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....

False.

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11:33a, 7/8/16
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Bender,

I am currently building a 6.8 and now I want to complicate life and build an A2 type like the one you have pictured. Where did you get the upper with the fixed carry handle?

Thanks
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 11:44a, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....
An AR with a red dot and a white light is one of the best tools for home defense. 5.56 penetrates less than most common handgun cartridges.
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In reply to deddog • 11:52a, 7/8/16
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In Mumbai on vacation, do i get points for reading this entire thread in the land of the slow internet connection?
Not a hunter, this is purely for home defense/SHTF scenarios.

And because i grew up in a country with no 2nd amendment.

Thanks for all the info.

Noob with guns, have a .38 revolver and the wife has a 9mm

Will be buying an AR next month, as soon as i am back in the country,
Budget around $1000

On my AR-15:
I would like a foregrip
Purely aesthetic- i like the Picattinny rails - how much will that will push up the cost?
I'm thinking 18'' barrel
don't think i need a scope to begin with.
What options do i have on the front sight?

EyeGuy, do i get a texags discount if I visit your store in Houston? :-)
Of course. I may even have what you want built up.
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In reply to txyaloo • 11:56a, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....
An AR with a red dot and a white light is one of the best tools for home defense. 5.56 penetrates less than most common handgun cartridges.

Less penetration than handgun rounds or buckshot through walls, incredibly easy to mount lights/optics, adjustable stock means both my 6' 1" self and 5' 1" wife can comfortably use the same gun if needed, recoil is minimal, capacity is great....

Unless you live in a ban state or flat out can't afford an AR (though these days they're pretty damn cheap), there is no better option for home defense, period. Other options can work, but they are not ideal. A properly set up AR-15 is the best option for home defense, bar none.



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In reply to JB!98 • 11:58a, 7/8/16
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Bender,

I am currently building a 6.8 and now I want to complicate life and build an A2 type like the one you have pictured. Where did you get the upper with the fixed carry handle?

Thanks

So mine is technically an A4, because that's actually a detachable carry handle on top of a railed upper. A2s have the carry handle fixed to the receiver.

I had EyeGuy build this one for me. It's a very good shooter, and one of my favorite ARs. Now I just need to save up for an ACOG for it and my A4 clone will be complete.

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12:05p, 7/8/16
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Ok thanks.
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 12:53p, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....


Sips are trolling this board too now!?
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In reply to TheEyeGuy • 12:57p, 7/8/16
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Hey EyeGuy, I emailed and PM'd a follow up about my questions early in the thread. Let me know if they went sideways on us. Much appreciated, sir.
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 1:00p, 7/8/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....


Since one of your core values is "no guns", what is it you suggest for home defense?
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In reply to CactusThomas • 1:03p, 7/8/16
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I hear bear spray or wasp spray works

Let him try that out while I'll stick to my ole trusty ARs... Well before they fell in a lake.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 1:21p, 7/8/16
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I hear bear spray or wasp spray works

Let him try that out while I'll stick to my ole trusty ARs... Well before they fell in a lake.
I like to let wasps into my house when they choose

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In reply to TheEyeGuy • 6:44a, 7/9/16
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Of course. I may even have what you want built up.
Fantastic, Will get in touch when i am back in the US!
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 6:51a, 7/9/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....
Of course *you* don't.
*You* wait for the government to come help you.
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 7:01a, 7/9/16
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You don't use a AR for home defense....


You may not. I do.
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In reply to deddog • 2:43p, 7/9/16
I've probably built/own more ARs than anyone on here.

I just think a hand gun or shotgun would be easier to use inside a home
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 2:48p, 7/9/16
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I've probably built/own more ARs than anyone on here.

I just think a hand gun or shotgun would be easier to use inside a home
You and mfbarnes.
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3:05p, 7/9/16
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Already have a .300blk SBR.

What's the better choice, for about $1000?

a) buy a mid range AR in 5.56

b) buy a better complete upper and switch with my .300blk (use same lower)
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In reply to Texas_Aggies12 • 3:10p, 7/9/16
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If you've built more than 200, you might have me beat.
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In reply to tx4guns • 3:11p, 7/9/16
Okay, you and eye guy don't count since y'all sell them
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