***DALLAS COWBOYS 2019 SEASON***

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In reply to MooreTrucker • 1:19p, 12/16/19
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why JG wasn't canned in the last few weeks

He wasn't canned because the team was in first place. Nothing more, nothing less.
He wasn't canned because he's in the last year of his contract and dumping him early, and at this point in the season, doesn't do much good other than to appease the haters.

As bonfarr said

Funny coming from the guy who just a week ago was asking "how do buyouts work, maybe they save money by keeping a lame duck coach until the final game"
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In reply to Grapesoda2525 • 2:13p, 12/16/19
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I have no doubt that the team won today because Garrett knows he's done and said "what the hell let's open things up". Which is what they shoulda been doing all along, but he's too much of a *****. When they're willing to play on the edge they're a better team. I'd bet any amount that every time they've looked like **** it's because Garrett has reigned them in.


But did we really open things up? I saw us getting back to what we're good at which is running the ball a ton.
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3:02p, 12/16/19
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He wasn't canned because he's in the last year of his contract and dumping him early, and at this point in the season, doesn't do much good other than to appease the haters.

Don't be silly. If there's a competent division winner in the NFCE that wasn't the Cowboys, he'd have been gone.
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In reply to diehard03 • 3:41p, 12/16/19
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He wasn't canned because he's in the last year of his contract and dumping him early, and at this point in the season, doesn't do much good other than to appease the haters.

Don't be silly. If there's a competent division winner in the NFCE that wasn't the Cowboys, he'd have been gone.
Key word. And why not. If the Eagles were better, why would that give JJ more incentive to fire him already. Replace him with......?
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3:59p, 12/16/19
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Lots of Monday talk about "maybe the Cowboys were just worn out". Truth be told, I had forgotten about how ridiculous the league made their schedule:

Their past 6 games:
Monday Night @ NY
Sunday Night vs Vikings
Regular game @ Lions
Prime Time 3:30 slot @ NE
Thursday vs Buffalo
Thursday @ Chicago

And finally we got a 10 day break to get ready for LA.

Come the freak on. The real kick in the shorts was after already pulling Sunday/Monday night duty in 2 of the past 3 weeks, they made us go to the east coast @ NE in the later prime time slot when they knew we had to get back home to play the bills 4 days later. And then, after running that gauntlet, they decided we should just go ahead and play another Thursday night game the following week @ Chicago.

Excuses excuses, I know, but that schedule was BS and it's not completely surprising that we couldn't tackle or play worth a crap.
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4:35p, 12/16/19
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Excuses excuses, I know, but that schedule was BS and it's not completely surprising that we couldn't tackle or play worth a crap.

I'm sure everyone else is tired of seeing a 7-7 team in island games as well
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4:41p, 12/16/19
There is no doubt that the Cowboys will beat the sorry Eagles next week and save a Garrett's job regardless of post season play.

I can hear Jerry now, "We won the division and went to the playoffs. I hardly see a reason to start over after this"

Count on it.
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4:51p, 12/16/19
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Random question: Has Randy Gregory just silently rode off into the sunset?

Haven't heard a thing about him in a long time. Is he even trying to get back into the league?
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In reply to Southlake • 4:54p, 12/16/19
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Southlake said:
There is no doubt that the Cowboys will beat the sorry Eagles next week and save a Garrett's job regardless of post season play.

I can hear Jerry now, "We won the division and went to the playoffs. I hardly see a reason to start over after this"

Count on it.
Yep - others above feel like there is no way he returns without getting the Super Bowl, but I have seen Jones make stupid decision after stupid decision and I bet he makes yet another one with a playoff appearance, especially if they find a way to win that first game. I just don't see them getting farther than that with as bad as they have been on the road this year, though.
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5:12p, 12/16/19
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To me it's pretty simple: Jerry will die before he wins another Super Bowl if he signs Jason Garrett long term.
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In reply to Southlake • 5:44p, 12/16/19
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Southlake said:
There is no doubt that the Cowboys will beat the sorry Eagles next week and save a Garrett's job regardless of post season play.

I can hear Jerry now, "We won the division and went to the playoffs. I hardly see a reason to start over after this"

Count on it.
Not happening. They did both of those last year and no extension. The bar is set higher this year. And 25 years is a long damn time. Like I said earlier, Jerry's window is shrinking.

All y'all that say "Jerry does stupid stuff and gonna do it again" are just wishful hater thinking and you'll be wrong.

Count on it.
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9:28p, 12/16/19
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Just came across this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-reached-out-to-sean-payton-ahead-of-2019-season-were-ready-to-move-on-from-jason-garrett/amp/

They had the right idea, but should have moved on to someone else even after trying for Payton. I also don't blame Payton. Brees is incredible and Payton has that team right where he wants them. No way would I jump ship with Brees at the steering wheel.
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9:51p, 12/16/19
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/16/troy-aikman-breaks-news-dak-prescott-has-hairline-fracture-on-index-finger/

This would explain why Dak looked a little off on his throws Sunday. Hopefully it heals quick.
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In reply to Ag12thman • 9:51p, 12/16/19
I'm sure a call will be made again. Brees cant play forever. Dallas has a strong roster that Payton could put over the top quickly.
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In reply to Macarthur • 10:02p, 12/16/19
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Agree on Payton, but he's gonna come very expensive after that Saints extension. Not sure how that plays into the salary cap or if it does.
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10:07p, 12/16/19
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He's signed thru 2025. I'm guessing they'd be talking upwards of 2-3 first round picks plus some to get him. Back 16-17 years ago, Gruden cost two #1's, two #2's, and $8 million.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 7:38a, 12/18/19
and Gruden had 1 year left on his deal with Raiders when he was traded.
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8:48a, 12/18/19
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So Dak got snubbed from the Pro Bowl. My guess is he's the first alternate and will eventually be in.

Hard to argue against Rogers, Brees, & Wilson though. Big names having good years on teams leading their divisions.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 9:13a, 12/18/19
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So Dak got snubbed from the Pro Bowl. My guess is he's the first alternate and will eventually be in.

Hard to argue against Rogers, Brees, & Wilson though. Big names having good years on teams leading their divisions.
Brees missed 5 games...

Dak has a higher completion %, more passing TDs, more passing yards, more rushing yards, and more rushing TDs than Rodgers does.

Dak should have been in.
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In reply to Saint Pablo • 9:27a, 12/18/19
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Saint Pablo said:
jr15aggie said:
So Dak got snubbed from the Pro Bowl. My guess is he's the first alternate and will eventually be in.

Hard to argue against Rogers, Brees, & Wilson though. Big names having good years on teams leading their divisions.
Brees missed 5 games...

Dak has a higher completion %, more passing TDs, more passing yards, more rushing yards, and more rushing TDs than Rodgers does.

Dak should have been in.
And Dak has the highest drop % among receivers, meaning his stats are actually more impressive. Dak definitely getting the Romo treatment. Never gonna get respect over 3 HOF SB winning QBs no matter how good you play in that year
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In reply to ramblin_ag02 • 9:33a, 12/18/19
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Saint Pablo said:
jr15aggie said:
So Dak got snubbed from the Pro Bowl. My guess is he's the first alternate and will eventually be in.

Hard to argue against Rogers, Brees, & Wilson though. Big names having good years on teams leading their divisions.
Brees missed 5 games...

Dak has a higher completion %, more passing TDs, more passing yards, more rushing yards, and more rushing TDs than Rodgers does.

Dak should have been in.
And Dak has the highest drop % among receivers, meaning his stats are actually more impressive. Dak definitely getting the Romo treatment. Never gonna get respect over 3 HOF SB winning QBs no matter how good you play in that year
Wonder how much of the selection is based on fan vote
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9:35a, 12/18/19
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Dak has a higher completion %, more passing TDs, more passing yards, more rushing yards, and more rushing TDs than Rodgers does.

Dak should have been in.

I don't disagree that he should be in, but these stats will be viewed as empty calories due to the team's record.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 9:37a, 12/18/19
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He's signed thru 2025. I'm guessing they'd be talking upwards of 2-3 first round picks plus some to get him. Back 16-17 years ago, Gruden cost two #1's, two #2's, and $8 million.

Money is irrelevant. JJ would pay whatever if it's just about $

You are right about draft picks. It's gonna hurt, but if you think, as most of us do, that coaching really matters in this razor thin margin league, you do it.
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9:38a, 12/18/19
Oh darn, pro bowl snub.
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In reply to diehard03 • 9:46a, 12/18/19
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Dak has a higher completion %, more passing TDs, more passing yards, more rushing yards, and more rushing TDs than Rodgers does.

Dak should have been in.

I don't disagree that he should be in, but these stats will be viewed as empty calories due to the team's record.
Since it is an individual accolade, team success should not trump superior individual performance IMO.
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9:47a, 12/18/19
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You are right about draft picks. It's gonna hurt, but if you think, as most of us do, that coaching really matters in this razor thin margin league, you do it.

The reports are smoke screens, imo. (at the very least, putting some rumors out there during a playoff push against a likely opponent) There's no way Jerry is giving up roster control to Payton and sitting there like a chump when he Jimmie Johnson's him again.
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10:03a, 12/18/19
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Since it is an individual accolade, team success should not trump superior individual performance IMO.

You're not wrong. If you sort the season by QBR, it very curious thing happens. There's a cluster at the top. It's 5 of the 6 Pro Bowl QBs....plus an injured Stats Padford...and one Dak Prescott. Many spaces farther down...you find the last Pro Bowl QB.

I can see how record caused the Prescott snub. But the Jimmy G snub? I dunno. It's like they made that choice purely on interceptions.
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In reply to diehard03 • 10:33a, 12/18/19
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You are right about draft picks. It's gonna hurt, but if you think, as most of us do, that coaching really matters in this razor thin margin league, you do it.

The reports are smoke screens, imo. (at the very least, putting some rumors out there during a playoff push against a likely opponent) There's no way Jerry is giving up roster control to Payton and sitting there like a chump when he Jimmie Johnson's him again.
I disagree.

JJ wants to win a SB worse than anything before he dies. IF there's one guy outside of the guy in New England that gives you the best chance is Payton.
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10:53a, 12/18/19
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I disagree.

JJ wants to win a SB worse than anything before he dies. IF there's one guy outside of the guy in New England that gives you the best chance is Payton.

He's spent an enormous amount of energy telling us how important he is and that he's the decision maker.

I just don't see a path where he plays kingmaker and just sits back.
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In reply to diehard03 • 11:14a, 12/18/19
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I disagree.

JJ wants to win a SB worse than anything before he dies. IF there's one guy outside of the guy in New England that gives you the best chance is Payton.

He's spent an enormous amount of energy telling us how important he is and that he's the decision maker.

I just don't see a path where he plays kingmaker and just sits back.
But you're assuming Payton wants to come in and run player personnel. NO has a GM.

Payton has a history with the Jones'. He may deep down not want to work for them as their HC, but if JJ could work with Bill Parcells, I think it's silly to think he couldn't work with Payton.
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11:19a, 12/18/19
After last season ended, Payton leveraged dallas interest into a new 5yr deal. If he wanted to be in dallas he would the coach right now.
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In reply to expresswrittenconsent • 11:39a, 12/18/19
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After last season ended, Payton leveraged dallas interest into a new 5yr deal. If he wanted to be in dallas he would the coach right now.

You may very well be right about that, and Payton may never have any intention of working for the Jones'.

My point was only that I think if JJ believes Payton would give him the best chance to win another SB, he would find a way to work with Payton.
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1:09p, 12/18/19
That's meaningless when qualified.
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2:14p, 12/18/19
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But you're assuming Payton wants to come in and run player personnel. NO has a GM.

Payton has a history with the Jones'. He may deep down not want to work for them as their HC, but if JJ could work with Bill Parcells, I think it's silly to think he couldn't work with Payton.

What about Sean Payton leads you to believe that he's going to give up roster control just to coach the Cowboys?

Loomis isn't a GM in the traditional sense.
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9:18a, 12/19/19
Anyone worried about Dak's shoulder Sunday?
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