The problem with that is Twitter is integrated into so much.YouBet said:
How long before Silicon Valley has an alternate platform up and running for the left to migrate to?
I'm going with a few weeks max. I suspect work started on it weeks ago.
Elon makes all-cash offer to take Twitter private
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What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
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What I don't understand is the whole "firehose" of data Twiiter supposedly gave Musk throughout the process, yet Elon still needs his guys to review even more code? What kind of game was Twitter playing there?
Even if they did give him everything there isn't a way to know it's 100% true unless you look further. Additionally they could have made modifications since the time they had given it to him.
Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Yep, they've had about 5 months to get their house in order. If anything is left then it's straight up incompetence
Lots.aggiehawg said:
What I don't understand is the whole "firehose" of data Twiiter supposedly gave Musk throughout the process, yet Elon still needs his guys to review even more code? What kind of game was Twitter playing there?
They did not provide access to the algorithms that censor and filter content.
Nor did they reveal the true nature of the bot system (fake accounts).
You rightly don't trust what the constant redactions and incomplete reponses to legal demands in the Mueller thread. Think of this as similar-- would you trust woke activist zealots to give Elon accurate and complete info? requests. Pleased that in this case Elon is not acting like a typical Republican Jeff Sessions type and blithely ambling along trusting the foe and taking their word given their record. He was smart to have his own double-check.aggiehawg said:
What I don't understand is the whole "firehose" of data Twiiter supposedly gave Musk throughout the process, yet Elon still needs his guys to review even more code? What kind of game was Twitter playing there?
Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Yep. I'm wondering if there's a way to integrate some sabotage before they left.
The "firehose" of data was specifically for accessing user data - account info, etc. to find bot stats. It was NOT about viewing the source code that makes up their software. Now, I have no doubt that they viewed some of that source code before as part of due diligence. But in a semi-hostile takeover like this you have to get in there and take a look at EVERYTHING as of this point in time. You just don't know what you might have missed or what might have been done/added since you looked at it.aggiehawg said:
What I don't understand is the whole "firehose" of data Twiiter supposedly gave Musk throughout the process, yet Elon still needs his guys to review even more code? What kind of game was Twitter playing there?
Rockdoc said:Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Yep. I'm wondering if there's a way to integrate some sabotage before they left.
Yeah, I am a bit surprised someone didn't try to burn the whole ship down
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Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Honestly I don't. Because they didn't think they were doing anything unethical. To them, they were saving democracy.
Zarathustra said:Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Honestly I don't. Because they didn't think they were doing anything unethical. To them, they were saving democracy.
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
I think once they got the offer from Musk, then there might be some legal issues...but then I'm not a lawyer.Premium said:Zarathustra said:Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Honestly I don't. Because they didn't think they were doing anything unethical. To them, they were saving democracy.
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
Yes. If done while a public company, securities fraud and possibly bank fraud for any lenders/creditors.Quote:
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
aggiehawg said:Yes. If done while a public company, securities fraud and possibly bank fraud for any lenders/creditors.Quote:
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
Deleting emails would be? I'm no lawyer, but I could def see it being illegal once the deal was made.
can we keep a running tab of the leftists who have now been fired from Twitter?
CEO Agrawal
Chief Leftist Propagandist enforcer of banning information: Vijaya Gadde
Attorney Budgett
who else?
CEO Agrawal
Chief Leftist Propagandist enforcer of banning information: Vijaya Gadde
Attorney Budgett
who else?
there was a "do not delete" as soon as Musk made the offerPremium said:aggiehawg said:Yes. If done while a public company, securities fraud and possibly bank fraud for any lenders/creditors.Quote:
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
Deleting emails would be? I'm no lawyer, but I could def see it being illegal once the deal was made.
it would be pretty illegal to delete emails during a due diligence investigation before the acquisition
and there has to be a way to recover most deleted emails anyway from different servers
i hope musk does not move twitter hq to texas.
Musk is gonna get access to emails and then the Clinton's are gonna put out a hit on him.
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Musk is gonna get access to emails and then the Clinton's are gonna put out a hit on him.
Surprised it hasn't already happened. I think what's he's doing with SpaceX gives him the shield of protection he needs.
If he did that, most of the C-suites would be Texans most likely. San Fran punks wouldn't move to Texas in large numbers in any event.Harry Stone said:
i hope musk does not move twitter hq to texas.
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No way. For all of its foibles, Twitter is subject to about a million foreign and domestic laws and regulations. That means they have to keep data on hand. Same thing for their insurance carriers. So as much as they might want to scrub whatever damning materials inside of their systems, they can't.Premium said:You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
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Once they were litigating with Musk, they were for-sure under litigation hold notices as well.Ag with kids said:I think once they got the offer from Musk, then there might be some legal issues...but then I'm not a lawyer.Premium said:Zarathustra said:Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Honestly I don't. Because they didn't think they were doing anything unethical. To them, they were saving democracy.
Good point, and would it even be illegal to scrub if the orders came from the then acting CEO?
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How long before Silicon Valley has an alternate platform up and running for the left to migrate to?
I'm going with a few weeks max. I suspect work started on it weeks ago.
A problem with a competing platform is that Twitter has already been adopted worldwide.
Caveat here: As the new owner, a lot of that becomes his problem if they did.Quote:
No way. For all of its foibles, Twitter is subject to about a million foreign and domestic laws and regulations. That means they have to keep data on hand. Same thing for their insurance carriers. So as much as they might want to scrub whatever damning materials inside of their systems, they can't.
Heads up:
Like 99% of software nowadays, their source code is stored via a utility called "git". The way it works is you change a few source files, and then "commit" them. When they are committed, then the change, who made the change, and their why comment is stored forever. And when some developer does a "clone" of the repository to their local computer to make changes, they would have their own copy of that entire history. So even if the CEO tried to order somebody to fabricate a false history to try to hide something (which would be a considerable effort), there would be thousands of copies of the original repository on computers all across the company. So there is pretty much no way to hide any nefarious activity done to the source code.
Like 99% of software nowadays, their source code is stored via a utility called "git". The way it works is you change a few source files, and then "commit" them. When they are committed, then the change, who made the change, and their why comment is stored forever. And when some developer does a "clone" of the repository to their local computer to make changes, they would have their own copy of that entire history. So even if the CEO tried to order somebody to fabricate a false history to try to hide something (which would be a considerable effort), there would be thousands of copies of the original repository on computers all across the company. So there is pretty much no way to hide any nefarious activity done to the source code.
CFO bounced too.LMCane said:
can we keep a running tab of the leftists who have now been fired from Twitter?
CEO Agrawal
Chief Leftist Propagandist enforcer of banning information: Vijaya Gadde
Attorney Budgett
who else?
Zarathustra said:FTAG 2000 said:The problem with that is Twitter is integrated into so much.YouBet said:
How long before Silicon Valley has an alternate platform up and running for the left to migrate to?
I'm going with a few weeks max. I suspect work started on it weeks ago.
A problem with a competing platform is that Twitter has already been adopted worldwide.
It's the social media network effect. Users go where the most users already are, it lends itself to monopolies.
Yes. The same paradox that some skeptics don't understand is why we have such records from the Germans regarding the camps and "processing". They were not bashful about their work. Think of Eichmann's trial.Zarathustra said:Premium said:ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
What is going to be really interesting in the fall out of all of this is all of the email and other company communications that Elon now owns.
I'm sure all of the emails from the DNC and biden administration agencies asking twitter to censor information and shape narrative for them will prove to be some interesting reading.
You don't think they scrubbed it almost 100% clean?
Honestly I don't. Because they didn't think they were doing anything unethical. To them, they were saving democracy.
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I suppose. But the then-in-place D&O policies will obviously need to be triggered and the ensuing litigation will help to get to the bottom of what was destroyed and why.aggiehawg said:Caveat here: As the new owner, a lot of that becomes his problem if they did.Quote:
No way. For all of its foibles, Twitter is subject to about a million foreign and domestic laws and regulations. That means they have to keep data on hand. Same thing for their insurance carriers. So as much as they might want to scrub whatever damning materials inside of their systems, they can't.
This is a large public company. You don't just get to shake it like an Etch a Sketch and pretend everything is just fine.
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I suppose. But the then-in-place D&O policies will obviously need to be triggered and the ensuing litigation will help to get to the bottom of what was destroyed and why.
This is a large public company. You don't just get to shake it like an Etch a Sketch and pretend everything is just fine.
Looking back, offering Musk a board seat might have been a set-up. He was smart to turn it down.
CEO Parag Agrawal, CFO Ned Segal, and Vijaya Gadde, head of legal policy, trust, and safety.
The company's general counsel, Sean Edgett, was also let go according to sources and all were promptly escorted out of the company's offices in San Francisco.
GET THE F OUT!!!
The company's general counsel, Sean Edgett, was also let go according to sources and all were promptly escorted out of the company's offices in San Francisco.
GET THE F OUT!!!
tfw you, like, can't believe this is happening to you pic.twitter.com/XZDqmJgfNH
— Jason Howerton (@jason_howerton) October 27, 2022
LOL, the hate on Vijaya's face. Love it.
Adios, you commie trash.
Reminds of the looks on the WH Obamian staff as Trump came in for the first day after winning the Election. Jen Psaki was one of them, so was that Cermella saboteur whats his name.
Successor liability arises when the acquiring company is liable and responsible for the obligations of the target companyaggiehawg said:Caveat here: As the new owner, a lot of that becomes his problem if they did.Quote:
No way. For all of its foibles, Twitter is subject to about a million foreign and domestic laws and regulations. That means they have to keep data on hand. Same thing for their insurance carriers. So as much as they might want to scrub whatever damning materials inside of their systems, they can't.