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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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I cannot speak to her thought process, but I absolutely despise politicians making decisions based on what will help them get elected next time. If she's doing more of the same then that is commendable being consistent.

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LMCane said:

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McInnis 03 said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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Jinx said:

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LMCane said:

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McInnis 03 said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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You know how cult leaders have their right hand men/women who truly believe in the cause and throw their whole existence behind it?

She isnt worried about the "next election campaign" because in her mind its impossible not to win once people see "the truth".

Unfortunately, those same people are all slowly waking up and not in the way she thinks.

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He was never accused of pedophilia. He was accused of banging a 17 year old

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LMCane said:

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McInnis 03 said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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txags92 said:

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LMCane said:

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McInnis 03 said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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Tell me you haven't actually listened to any of her interviews without telling me...

She has been anything but crazy and right wing in what she has been saying and doing. She was asking for crazy right-wing stuff like returning the house to normal order so that bills came out of committees instead of locked backrooms of the speaker's office. Extremist stuff like single issue bills and the ability to remove amendments that are offtopic. Crazy nutjob stuff like allowing a vote on proposed amendments to a bill on the floor.

Yeah, that is just crazy talk. We all know that the founding fathers intended for the government to be run by giant legislative funding packages that were created in backrooms and dropped on the floor with less than 24 hours for reps to read them before being forced to vote on them.

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Yeah, that is just crazy talk. We all know that the founding fathers intended for the government to be run by giant legislative funding packages that were created in backrooms and dropped on the floor with less than 24 hours for reps to read them before being forced to vote on them.

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Jinx said:

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LMCane said:

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McInnis 03 said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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Unfortunately, those same people are all slowly waking up and not in the way she thinks.

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I cannot speak to her thought process, but I absolutely despise politicians making decisions based on what will help them get elected next time. If she's doing more of the same then that is commendable being consistent.

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Isn't part of representing a constituency doing what they want you to do...in other words, doing what would help you get elected?

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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I used to think F16 was populated by mostly principled conservatives......

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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I used to think F16 was populated by mostly principled conservatives......

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Not liking Gaetz or Boebert does not mean people aren't principled conservatives.

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Wild thought just popped into my head that I'm sure has significant flaws due to my lacking knowledge of how the House operates.

D have Presidency,
D have Senate with VP tie breaker
R has the House.

Under these conditions not much will get passed legislatively from either side.

Even if we had a D SOTH, that does not mean that D controls the House. It's not like if the D SOTH refuses to bring R majority legislation to a vote will matter because it will not get passed in the Senate.

What's the harm in this scenario of holding ground against McCarthy and forcing him to deal with D's thus exposing his lack of conservative ideals?

Accepting concessions now just keeps the status quo where establishment gives an inch but takes a mile, though this would be one of the rare times where establishment gave an inch.

Force the RINO's to admit they would rather side with the D's than support a conservative candidate and agenda and hopefully the sheeple will finally get to see the wolf in sheeps clothing that they foolishly have been voting for these past decades and thus correct their voting habits.

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You do have significant flaws in the how the House works.

Your plan means that Dems appoint the Chairs of every committee and thus control the bills and agenda of those committees, that's what the Speaker does. So no Oversight or very little (Hunter Laptop, Church Committee, on and on) happens. Essentially the little power the GOP was going to get they just give up.

Your plan also is FAR more likely to have the opposite effect. It will show the GOP can't work together and can't govern. Now I understand as a conservative how that sounds great but the reality is conservatives are not the majority in this country, at all. Even among conservatives many still want government to operate and to get some wins. In order for your plan to work you would need a massive wave of conservatives to sweep the GOP Primaries and then to win the General in '24. Oh, and they have to do it somehow without much money because the money comes from folks that actually want to get legislation done. If you have a few billion of your own sitting around to fund it then great but otherwise you are talking about suicide.

This is not the time to go for the golden ring. This is the time to send a message and get significant concessions and fight for more in '24 hopefully with DeSantis or Trump as President and a GOP Senate. Hell this session of Congress is only going to be relevant for a few months before the '24 race takes over and even sooner if Biden doesn't run and you have both Parties fighting over the nomination.

Chip Roy did this the right way. He was reasonable and clear and got concessions. He made good points and won over folks. In the end though he also knows that there is no hard core conservative with enough pull to win the Speaker's race this cycle because there are enough RINO's to block it just as the conservatives are doing now. In the end these folks have to work together and burning every bridge with no plan that has a chance of succeeding is idiocy, that is unless you don't care about actually enacting real change and would rather just talk about it.

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What just happened

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Whirligigs said:

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aggie93 said:

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Tea Party said:

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Wild thought just popped into my head that I'm sure has significant flaws due to my lacking knowledge of how the House operates.

D have Presidency,
D have Senate with VP tie breaker
R has the House.

Under these conditions not much will get passed legislatively from either side.

Even if we had a D SOTH, that does not mean that D controls the House. It's not like if the D SOTH refuses to bring R majority legislation to a vote will matter because it will not get passed in the Senate.

What's the harm in this scenario of holding ground against McCarthy and forcing him to deal with D's thus exposing his lack of conservative ideals?

Accepting concessions now just keeps the status quo where establishment gives an inch but takes a mile, though this would be one of the rare times where establishment gave an inch.

Force the RINO's to admit they would rather side with the D's than support a conservative candidate and agenda and hopefully the sheeple will finally get to see the wolf in sheeps clothing that they foolishly have been voting for these past decades and thus correct their voting habits.

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You do have significant flaws in the how the House works.

Your plan means that Dems appoint the Chairs of every committee and thus control the bills and agenda of those committees, that's what the Speaker does. So no Oversight or very little (Hunter Laptop, Church Committee, on and on) happens. Essentially the little power the GOP was going to get they just give up.

Your plan also is FAR more likely to have the opposite effect. It will show the GOP can't work together and can't govern. Now I understand as a conservative how that sounds great but the reality is conservatives are not the majority in this country, at all. Even among conservatives many still want government to operate and to get some wins. In order for your plan to work you would need a massive wave of conservatives to sweep the GOP Primaries and then to win the General in '24. Oh, and they have to do it somehow without much money because the money comes from folks that actually want to get legislation done. If you have a few billion of your own sitting around to fund it then great but otherwise you are talking about suicide.

This is not the time to go for the golden ring. This is the time to send a message and get significant concessions and fight for more in '24 hopefully with DeSantis or Trump as President and a GOP Senate. Hell this session of Congress is only going to be relevant for a few months before the '24 race takes over and even sooner if Biden doesn't run and you have both Parties fighting over the nomination.

Chip Roy did this the right way. He was reasonable and clear and got concessions. He made good points and won over folks. In the end though he also knows that there is no hard core conservative with enough pull to win the Speaker's race this cycle because there are enough RINO's to block it just as the conservatives are doing now. In the end these folks have to work together and burning every bridge with no plan that has a chance of succeeding is idiocy, that is unless you don't care about actually enacting real change and would rather just talk about it.

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Been hearing this sorry ass excuse for decades.

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Faustus said:

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LMCane said:

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Boebert and Biggs vote for Jordan...

Gaetz will be a no.

Keep an eye on Crane, Good, Harris, Rosendale. https://t.co/hekc813852

— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 6, 2023

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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She's building a brand (hot, guns, "patriot") that will survive being a House Rep. (smart given her last showing) and not have to go back to running the restaurant.

The more spotlight the better.

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When you simply ignore how the world works don't be surprised you can't get the changes you want. BTW, one of Trump's biggest flaws is he didn't understand how DC worked and it sunk him over and over again. You have to know how to play the game in order to win it.

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TXAggie2011 said:

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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She doesn't know how to do anything else. And if she loses an election, she can go make more money speaking to those who love her "conviction."

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TXAggie2011 said:

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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She doesn't know how to do anything else. And if she loses an election, she can go make more money speaking to those who love her "conviction."

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Exactly. Her thought process is whatever gets her the most camera time. She doesn't care about governing or passing anything,which is why she almost got booted from a pretty safe district.

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When you simply ignore how the world works don't be surprised you can't get the changes you want. BTW, one of Trump's biggest flaws is he didn't understand how DC worked and it sunk him over and over again. You have to know how to play the game in order to win it.

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The only way to return to anything resembling a functional constitutional republic is to remove power from D.C. The corruption is so long-standing and so deep, you aren't going to get any meaningful change by electing the Trump's of the world. We don't need different people in Washington. Well we do, but that's not a realistic goal, the system has literally been designed to keep people with goodwill away from holding any legitimate power. Literally the only way forward is removing power.

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Rodney Ruxin said:

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When you simply ignore how the world works don't be surprised you can't get the changes you want. BTW, one of Trump's biggest flaws is he didn't understand how DC worked and it sunk him over and over again. You have to know how to play the game in order to win it.

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The only way to return to anything resembling a functional constitutional republic is to remove power from D.C. The corruption is so long-standing and so deep, you aren't going to get any meaningful change by electing the Trump's of the world. We don't need different people in Washington. Well we do, but that's not a realistic goal, the system has literally been designed to keep people with goodwill away from holding any legitimate power. Literally the only way forward is removing power.

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I can't understand Boebert's thought process.

her election took 2 weeks to confirm as she won by barely 500 votes in a GOP +3 district. she underperformed literally every single Republican in Colorado.

so her grand strategy now is to act EVEN MORE CRAZY AND RIGHT WING.

how does that help her next election campaign?!

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She doesn't know how to do anything else. And if she loses an election, she can go make more money speaking to those who love her "conviction."

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Exactly. Her thought process is whatever gets her the most camera time. She doesn't care about governing or passing anything, which is why she almost got booted from a pretty safe district.

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I'd much prefer my congressman passing nothing vs. a $1.7 trillion dollar bill that adds to our already enormous debt. All at the expense of the American taxpayer.

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