McCarthy getting speaker?

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Robert L. Peters
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 12:33p, 1/5/23
And they're using Fox News to make the minority look bad.
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J. Walter Weatherman
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In reply to flashplayer • 12:35p, 1/5/23
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98PercenterAg said:
aTmAg said:
Ben Matlock said:
This is no different than the Dem Quorum Break of '21. No real plan to move forward, just dragging their feet to delay the inevitable.
The plan is to get McCarthy out of the picture. What is hard to understand about that?
The hardest part to understand about it is that it's not going to happen. There have been >10 GOP congress people now express that, due to the detractors, they'll support no person other than McCarthy. So do we sit in stalemate for 2 years? Or does the 10% take their negotiation victory and join the 90%


What great negotiation victory have they won? McCarthy hasn't made a single relevant concession. Why blink first if you still don't get what you want? You'd be a terrible negotiator. They don't have that much to lose at this point.


A ton of concessions they've already made are laid out here.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?525146-9/rep-elect-warren-davidson-speaker-nomination
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In reply to Robert L. Peters • 12:35p, 1/5/23
That's the advantage of having an establishment R shill like Paul Ryan at the network. There is an approved message, and it is never a conservative one.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:36p, 1/5/23
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Ellis Wyatt said:
McInnis 03 said:
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You have a source on any of that - it's honestly the first I've heard those concessions.


Redstate article

That was two hours ago. Their votes don't reflect that.


Their votes don't reflect that's enough
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In reply to Dan Scott • 12:37p, 1/5/23
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Time for McCarthy to go. He had 2 months to lock this up and couldn't. He's coming off super weak now willing to give up on whatever to get the job. The 20 have him by the balls. He can't be trust to negotiate with democrats seeing how weak he is negotiating with the 20.

And the 20 are demonstrating the Republicans can't be trusted to govern. All or nothing attitude with small majority doesn't work. They rather watch the world burn than get most of what they want.
Neither Republicans or Democrats can be trusted to govern. It's why Congress continually has such low approval ratings.
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12:47p, 1/5/23
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What's the end game here…

How does this resolve?
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In reply to FireAg • 12:49p, 1/5/23
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FireAg said:
What's the end game here…

How does this resolve?
Someone other than McCarthy is up for Speaker.
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In reply to Charpie • 12:50p, 1/5/23
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Charpie said:
FireAg said:
What's the end game here…

How does this resolve?
Someone other than McCarthy is up for Speaker.

He's not getting to 218…

So all of these votes are pointless…

What does it take to break through to him?
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In reply to Charpie • 12:51p, 1/5/23
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There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.
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In reply to TRM • 12:52p, 1/5/23
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TRM said:
There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.
If that is the case, then so be it.
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In reply to TRM • 12:53p, 1/5/23
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TRM said:
There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.


Love it.
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12:55p, 1/5/23
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Here we go for Number 8
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In reply to FireAg • 12:55p, 1/5/23
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FireAg said:
What's the end game here…

How does this resolve?

Eventually one side will break, only time will tell which side that will be
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In reply to TRM • 12:55p, 1/5/23
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There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.
At that point, they'll be a deal done with the Democrats.
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In reply to Bubblez • 12:56p, 1/5/23
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TRM said:
There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.
At that point, they'll be a deal done with the Democrats.
No there won't. No deal with dems will yield a win for whomever is speaker
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 12:58p, 1/5/23
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Yeah I think that is wishful thinking. You're seeing the pundits talk about how that compromise is happening at the state level with their local legislatures. There is a lot less risk in doing that.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 12:58p, 1/5/23
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How can dems not influence this to the point of getting something in return for their vote?
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12:58p, 1/5/23
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1:02p, 1/5/23
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Need more information from reputable sources around here.
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In reply to TRM • 1:02p, 1/5/23
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TRM said:
There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.
Good. This congress can do nothing then, and that is way better than what they will do under McCarthy!
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1:03p, 1/5/23
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During the Donalds nomination speech McCarthy was over talking VERY strongly with Andy Ogles (one of the 20)
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In reply to 45-70Ag • 1:03p, 1/5/23
45-70Ag said:
How can dems not influence this to the point of getting something in return for their vote?
McCarthy cannot negotiate with the dems for votes or to walk out to reduce the quorum. Otherwise he'll have at least 20 "HARD NO" votes on anything he tries and probably dozens of new "NO" votes. If McCarthy starts to get "YES" votes from dems, he'll lose votes from GOP because they'll know he gave some sort of ludicrous concessions for those votes. Jeffries isn't going to just let his members cross the line like that.
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In reply to TRM • 1:05p, 1/5/23
TRM said:
There's a group of 50 that is going to support McCarthy to the end. They can do the same thing to whomever the 20 want.


Good, let's have total gridlock for the 2 years.

Best thing the GOP has ever done.
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1:05p, 1/5/23
Gaetz votes for Donald John Trump. lol

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In reply to will25u • 1:06p, 1/5/23
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Welcome to 4 pages ago
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1:08p, 1/5/23
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If you think I am a liberal, you are incorrect. Assume sarcasm on my part. Sorry if something I post has already been posted. Just the way it is!!
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1:08p, 1/5/23
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Boebert goes for Kevin Hern this round.
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1:08p, 1/5/23
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Something has changed, I don't think Boebert is only typically the 2nd non-mccarthy at this point. Did people exit for a piss break?
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 1:08p, 1/5/23
Irish 2.0 said:
45-70Ag said:
How can dems not influence this to the point of getting something in return for their vote?
McCarthy cannot negotiate with the dems for votes or to walk out to reduce the quorum. Otherwise he'll have at least 20 "HARD NO" votes on anything he tries and probably dozens of new "NO" votes. If McCarthy starts to get "YES" votes from dems, he'll lose votes from GOP because they'll know he gave some sort of ludicrous concessions for those votes. Jeffries isn't going to just let his members cross the line like that.
The concessions will come in the form of a guarantee over a handful of stand alone floor votes on a few Dem issues that are highly popular with the public in which can be voted down if the GOP has the stomach to do so.
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In reply to Bubblez • 1:10p, 1/5/23
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Irish 2.0 said:
45-70Ag said:
How can dems not influence this to the point of getting something in return for their vote?
McCarthy cannot negotiate with the dems for votes or to walk out to reduce the quorum. Otherwise he'll have at least 20 "HARD NO" votes on anything he tries and probably dozens of new "NO" votes. If McCarthy starts to get "YES" votes from dems, he'll lose votes from GOP because they'll know he gave some sort of ludicrous concessions for those votes. Jeffries isn't going to just let his members cross the line like that.
The concessions will come in the form of a guarantee over a handful of stand alone floor votes on a few Dem issues that are highly popular with the public in which can be voted down if the GOP has the stomach to do so.
No they won't.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 1:13p, 1/5/23
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They have to be present in the chamber at the time the vote starts to vote, but they don't have to answer the roll call vote immediately, they can wait until the end.
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1:13p, 1/5/23
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Round 9 incoming!
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 1:14p, 1/5/23
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McInnis 03 said:
Something has changed, I don't think Boebert is only typically the 2nd non-mccarthy at this point. Did people exit for a piss break?
Yep, some of the holdouts aren't voting in their order.
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1:15p, 1/5/23
The more the FoxNews pundits keep pumping McCarthy the more I dislike him having the gavel.
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1:19p, 1/5/23
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