rgag12 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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Like it or not, the "establishment" has a lot more votes than the freedom caucus. They will vote for a very moderate Republican for speaker with dem help and what will end up happening is no COVID investigations, no Dems will be banned from committees, and big budgets won't be questioned.

But hey, at least republicans got to publicly squawk for a couple of days about how a guy from their party wasn't pure-blood conservative enough!

I hate Trump, but he is right. These 20 or so Republicans want to take a small victory and turn it into an embarrassing defeat.

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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rgag12 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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Like it or not, the "establishment" has a lot more votes than the freedom caucus. They will vote for a very moderate Republican for speaker with dem help and what will end up happening is no COVID investigations, no Dems will be banned from committees, and big budgets won't be questioned.

But hey, at least republicans got to publicly squawk for a couple of days about how a guy from their party wasn't pure-blood conservative enough!

I hate Trump, but he is right. These 20 or so Republicans want to take a small victory and turn it into an embarrassing defeat.

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girlfriend_experience said:

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nobody outside of this threads cares about any of this.

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74OA said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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First of all, I couldn't care less who is elected Speaker, whether it is McCarthy or someone else.

Second, that term is being reported as coined by GOP members of the House, not by me.

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98PercenterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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didn't you hear? She's out now. Super RINO. 100% Swamp. Epstein island.

/s

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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redcrayon said:

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74OA said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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First of all, I couldn't care less who is elected Speaker, whether it is McCarthy or someone else.

Second, that term is being reported as coined by GOP members of the House, not by me.

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So because you read it in a tweet, you have to use it? Again, lazy.

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74OA said:

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redcrayon said:

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74OA said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

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So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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First of all, I couldn't care less who is elected Speaker, whether it is McCarthy or someone else.

Second, that term is being reported as coined by GOP members of the House, not by me.

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So because you read it in a tweet, you have to use it? Again, lazy.

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It is being reported all over the place. Keep up.

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aezmvp said:

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No.

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girlfriend_experience said:

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nobody outside of this threads cares about any of this.

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74OA said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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First of all, I couldn't care less who is elected Speaker, whether it is McCarthy or someone else.

Second, that term is being reported as coined by GOP members of the House, not by me.

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BluHorseShu said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

---

They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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Kind of…She's like one of those extra parts left over when you build something from IKEA. It works perfectly without her and would likely cause problems if you attach it somewhere

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

---

They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

---

You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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74OA said:

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redcrayon said:

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74OA said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

---

They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

---

You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

---

First of all, I couldn't care less who is elected Speaker, whether it is McCarthy or someone else.

Second, that term is being reported as coined by GOP members of the House, not by me.

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So because you read it in a tweet, you have to use it? Again, lazy.

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It is being reported all over the place. Keep up.

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aTmAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Then they aren't very effective leaders either if they couldn't get this done on the best timeline. They should have won the first battle...when the caucus nominations were made.

---

They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

He isn't threatening the Taliban 20, they're threatening him.

---

So now they are the "Taliban 20". Pathetic.

The moron you support is reportedly trying to make a deal with the democrats. And you call the FC the taliban? Good God.

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Isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene part of the Freedom Caucus?

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What is your point?

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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Boebert says that Trump called them and told them to "knock this off" and vote for McCarthy.

She then says that Trump should tell McCarthy to withdraw. pic.twitter.com/s7wVyh3pTY

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 4, 2023

98PercenterAg said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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74OA said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They're not running for Speaker. He obviously isn't a good leader as he has never had enough votes and he has done nothing to secure enough, other than threatening fellow republicans.

Sounds like an establishment dick to me.

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You do understand that 202 House Republicans voted for McCarthy, right?

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What does 202 votes do?

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If 32 Democrats vote "present," it wins.

Unlikely but possible.

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lb3 said:

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He can deny committee assignments but more importantly, he can leverage his position to starve the FC of access to GOP funding or access to the big GOP donors during the next election cycle.

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TRM said:

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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There are more then 20 Freedom Caucus members. There are more FC members supporting McCarthy then not.

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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aTmAg said:

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Is the 5th vote over?

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redcrayon said:

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TRM said:

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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There are more then 20 Freedom Caucus members. There are more FC members supporting McCarthy then not.

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I'm clearly talking about the 20 not supporting him.

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Quote:

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McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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He's been reaching out to them for months and they made numerous concessions already (Davidson outlined every single thing they've agreed to). The remaining holdouts current negotiating position is just "no", why would he continue trying?

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TRM said:

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redcrayon said:

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TRM said:

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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There are more then 20 Freedom Caucus members. There are more FC members supporting McCarthy then not.

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I'm clearly talking about the 20 not supporting him.

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You said:

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McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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redcrayon said:

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Wow, McCarthy hasn't even reached out to the Freedom Caucus. Terrible leader. He needs to be working with all 20.

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He's been reaching out to them for months and they made numerous concessions already (Davidson outlined every single thing they've agreed to). The remaining holdouts current negotiating position is just "no", why would he continue trying?

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nortex97 said:

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Boebert says that Trump called them and told them to "knock this off" and vote for McCarthy.

She then says that Trump should tell McCarthy to withdraw. pic.twitter.com/s7wVyh3pTY

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 4, 2023

Just posting this here because, umm, well, some of y'all/us needed a slight change in subject. Not to derail.

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redcrayon said:

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aTmAg said:

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Is the 5th vote over?

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Almost.

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