McCarthy getting speaker?

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In reply to aTmAg • 4:29p, 1/4/23
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"The answer is that if McCarthy is able to negotiate a deal with the democrats and is able to go through with it, then it will be bad for Rs. Which is why sane people want McCarthy to step down and say far away from any GOP leadership position."

Are you not forgetting a couple of problems with that?

First off, the Republican's in the house are dominated by what this board refers to as RINO swamp rats.

So……… that being the case:

I've read that some republicans have already told the 20 they will refuse to vote for anyone not named McCarthy. Dan Crenshaw went live with that.

Even if they did, it's not likely to be someone from the swamp.

I just don't see an end game for the 20. Personally, if you don't have an end game, why do it? Especially if your party-opponents would rather negotiate with the D's than give in to you?

I don't know, maybe it will work out, but right now it looks a real mess to me.
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In reply to 98PercenterAg • 4:29p, 1/4/23
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98PercenterAg said:
fka ftc said:
For some reason, anytime someone says we need someone in leadership who knows the ropes... and the previous leadership has shown nothing but corruption, I take pause.

If the houses of government are setup in such a way that it takes experience to navigate the swamp up their, then burn it all down.
Well until it's burned down, we need experience.
We've tried experience. Look where that has gotten us. It seems that experience is vastly overrated.

What we really need is somebody who won't give into the democrats and who will actually be conservative for a change.
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In reply to BluHorseShu • 4:30p, 1/4/23
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BluHorseShu said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
BluHorseShu said:
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Somebody in the "stay firm" crowd want to explain to me how this works out good for R's in the end? Seems like dumbassery if this holds true.
Speaks volumes about what McCarthy and the establishment care about.
And Trump
Is that a gotcha of some sort? Trump isn't a conservative (which speaks volumes about the other ****ty, less-conservative republican presidents we have had since Reagan). I don't give the first **** what he thinks.
Wait a gosh darn minute…I was told repeatedly here the last couple of years that he is the GOAT. You don't agree? How could he possibly have so much support and not be truly conservative? Was his Presidency very conservative? I mean, I love that his SC pics shot down R v W. To me if the rest of his presidency did nothing, it was worth it to stomach him for that outcome alone.
He was very conservative, donchaknow? He banned bump stocks, added more to the debt than any President before him, supported men in women's restrooms, and my personal favorite is his best quote "first we take the guns, then we do due process later."
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In reply to BluHorseShu • 4:31p, 1/4/23
Record low unemployment, Tax cuts, locked down border, not being pissed on my foreign adversaries, record stock market (precovid), etc.

He did well as POTUS, but he's taken many many many steps backwards since being ousted
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4:31p, 1/4/23
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Is there any truth to the rumor McCarthy was seen walking into Pelosi's office with a bottle of smirnoff to ask for advice?
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In reply to BluHorseShu • 4:31p, 1/4/23
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BluHorseShu said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
BluHorseShu said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
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Somebody in the "stay firm" crowd want to explain to me how this works out good for R's in the end? Seems like dumbassery if this holds true.
Speaks volumes about what McCarthy and the establishment care about.
And Trump
Is that a gotcha of some sort? Trump isn't a conservative (which speaks volumes about the other ****ty, less-conservative republican presidents we have had since Reagan). I don't give the first **** what he thinks.
Wait a gosh darn minute…I was told repeatedly here the last couple of years that he is the GOAT. You don't agree? How could he possibly have so much support and not be truly conservative? Was his Presidency very conservative? I mean, I love that his SC pics shot down R v W. To me if the rest of his presidency did nothing, it was worth it to stomach him for that outcome alone.

You gonna be ok after that sillyness?
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In reply to 98PercenterAg • 4:32p, 1/4/23
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Irish 2.0 said:
98PercenterAg said:
aTmAg said:
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Everyone is talking about McCarthy negotiating with Democrats, while Kevin McCarthy is currently in a closed door meeting with the 21 members voting against him. I swear, the insider info in here is suspect most of the time.
We didn't make it up here. The sources are plain to see.


Unless he's dropping out it won't do any good. Time for fresh blood! Bring on Donald's!
If they want to oust McCarthy, so be it.
Oust him from what? He isn't the speaker and has never had the votes to be speaker. They want someone without swamp ties, so a shorter tenure to date isn't a negative.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 4:33p, 1/4/23
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Irish 2.0 said:
The Chicken Ranch said:
Steve Scalise needs to be Speaker.
Scalise is the compromise and would get all the required votes.


Why on earth would Steve Scalise want to come within 1000 yards of being Speaker? He's already got a good leadership position that is much better suited to his strengths, especially with the policy focus.

Besides, even if he did want the job, he can probably get it when whomever gets it now crashes and burns and is demoted by the Freedom Caucus in a few months.
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In reply to CowboyGirl • 4:33p, 1/4/23
Why would he want to be even more powerful?

That a serous question?

I'm Gipper
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In reply to BluHorseShu • 4:34p, 1/4/23
BluHorseShu said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
BluHorseShu said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
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Somebody in the "stay firm" crowd want to explain to me how this works out good for R's in the end? Seems like dumbassery if this holds true.
Speaks volumes about what McCarthy and the establishment care about.
And Trump
Is that a gotcha of some sort? Trump isn't a conservative (which speaks volumes about the other ****ty, less-conservative republican presidents we have had since Reagan). I don't give the first **** what he thinks.
Wait a gosh darn minute…I was told repeatedly here the last couple of years that he is the GOAT.
You're de-railing the thread. What a lib thinks is completely beside the point. Nobody cares.
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In reply to CowboyGirl • 4:34p, 1/4/23
He doesn't want it. But like I said, he would be a compromise the 20 would accept and have the other 202 votes too
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In reply to aggiedent • 4:36p, 1/4/23
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aggiedent said:
"The answer is that if McCarthy is able to negotiate a deal with the democrats and is able to go through with it, then it will be bad for Rs. Which is why sane people want McCarthy to step down and say far away from any GOP leadership position."

Are you not forgetting a couple of problems with that?

First off, the Republican's in the house are dominated by what this board refers to as RINO swamp rats.

So……… that being the case:

I've read that some republicans have already told the 20 they will refuse to vote for anyone not named McCarthy. Dan Crenshaw went live with that.

Even if they did, it's not likely to be someone from the swamp.

I just don't see an end game for the 20. Personally, if you don't have an end game, why do it? Especially if your party-opponents would rather negotiate with the D's than give in to you?

I don't know, maybe it will work out, but right now it looks a real mess to me.
Their endgame is the same as McCarthy/Crenshaw's endgame. Keep voting until a guy they like is elected. To pretend they have no endgame, but their opponents do is ridiculous.

I say keep voting against McCarthy for 2 years for all I care. If they can't pass bills then they can't infringe on our rights.



And do you agree that if McCarthy is indeed negotiating with democrats, then to hell with him? How can you people even debate this anymore if you believe those sources?
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In reply to aggiedent • 4:37p, 1/4/23
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aggiedent said:
"The answer is that if McCarthy is able to negotiate a deal with the democrats and is able to go through with it, then it will be bad for Rs. Which is why sane people want McCarthy to step down and say far away from any GOP leadership position."

Are you not forgetting a couple of problems with that?

First off, the Republican's in the house are dominated by what this board refers to as RINO swamp rats.

So……… that being the case:

I've read that some republicans have already told the 20 they will refuse to vote for anyone not named McCarthy. Dan Crenshaw went live with that.

Even if they did, it's not likely to be someone from the swamp.

I just don't see an end game for the 20. Personally, if you don't have an end game, why do it? Especially if your party-opponents would rather negotiate with the D's than give in to you?

I don't know, maybe it will work out, but right now it looks a real mess to me.
Let the establishment types join with the Democrat Party. We aren't going to accomplish anything this cycle while Dems hold the Senate and Veto.

And in the long run it will get most of the swamp rats primaried.
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4:38p, 1/4/23
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Is that fake?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:45p, 1/4/23
Someone check truth social…if it's still operational
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:45p, 1/4/23
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Yes, Trump came out and said it's fake via Truth.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:46p, 1/4/23
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The replies to that tweet seems to think it's fake. Plus, that tweet is a few hours old. If it were real, more people would have posted about it
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In reply to 98PercenterAg • 4:51p, 1/4/23
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98PercenterAg said:
Yes, Trump came out and said it's fake via Truth.
Ok, so McCarthy is still a terrible candidate because Trump is supporting him, right? Wasn't that the narrative from the aftermath of the mid-terms?
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In reply to txags92 • 4:53p, 1/4/23
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txags92 said:
98PercenterAg said:
Yes, Trump came out and said it's fake via Truth.
Ok, so McCarthy is still a terrible candidate because Trump is supporting him, right? Wasn't that the narrative from the aftermath of the mid-terms?
Trump is a total lib, but that doesn't make all his endorsement recipients terrible. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis etc.
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In reply to nortex97 • 4:56p, 1/4/23
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Is there any truth to the rumor McCarthy was seen walking into Pelosi's office with a bottle of smirnoff to ask for advice?


If Rocky can pull this one off...
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In reply to 98PercenterAg • 4:56p, 1/4/23
You really can't claim DeSantis as his endorsement anymore. He's literally been attacking him since he was deemed a true threat to his 2024 bid.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 4:57p, 1/4/23
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Irish 2.0 said:
You really can't claim DeSantis as his endorsement anymore. He's literally been attacking him since he was deemed a true threat to his 2024 bid.
Good point. My intention was just to say that a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes
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4:59p, 1/4/23
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I'm by no means promoting him for Speaker here, but am enjoying learning a little more about some of these folks.
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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 5:02p, 1/4/23
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I'm by no means promoting him for Speaker here, but am enjoying learning a little more about some of these folks.
He's certainly a huge step up from McCarthy, that's for damn sure.
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5:03p, 1/4/23
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ETA: I'm off the Jim Jordan for speaker bandwagon, understanding now why he doesn't want it. However, this is still entertaining.
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In reply to 98PercenterAg • 5:03p, 1/4/23
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98PercenterAg said:
txags92 said:
98PercenterAg said:
Yes, Trump came out and said it's fake via Truth.
Ok, so McCarthy is still a terrible candidate because Trump is supporting him, right? Wasn't that the narrative from the aftermath of the mid-terms?
Trump is a total lib, but that doesn't make all his endorsement recipients terrible. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis etc.
That isn't what we were being told by the GOP-e after the mid-terms. According to them, everybody Trump put forward that defeated one of their selected candidates in the primary was a "terrible candidate" and lost because they were endorsed by Trump, not because the GOP-e deprived them of party support and actively spoke against them in TV and radio interviews. So if Trump goes along with them and supports one of their candidates they are no longer terrible? Sounds like what they are saying is that any candidate not approved by the national level GOP-e is a "terrible candidate" and Trump's endorsement or lack thereof had nothing to do with it.
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In reply to txags92 • 5:04p, 1/4/23
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txags92 said:
98PercenterAg said:
txags92 said:
98PercenterAg said:
Yes, Trump came out and said it's fake via Truth.
Ok, so McCarthy is still a terrible candidate because Trump is supporting him, right? Wasn't that the narrative from the aftermath of the mid-terms?
Trump is a total lib, but that doesn't make all his endorsement recipients terrible. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis etc.
That isn't what we were being told by the GOP-e after the mid-terms. According to them, everybody Trump put forward that defeated one of their selected candidates in the primary was a "terrible candidate" and lost because they were endorsed by Trump, not because the GOP-e deprived them of party support and actively spoke against them in TV and radio interviews. So if Trump goes along with them and supports one of their candidates they are no longer terrible? Sounds like what they are saying is that any candidate not approved by the national level GOP-e is a "terrible candidate" and Trump's endorsement or lack thereof had nothing to do with it.
I'm not sure. I wasn't one of the folks saying any of that.
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In reply to aTmAg • 5:05p, 1/4/23
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No arguments here.
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5:08p, 1/4/23
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Anyone but Kevin
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5:09p, 1/4/23
Cori Bush has already told us that Donaldson is not black enough and supports white supremacy.

We haven't had a true KKK leading the House back in the 1950s, right? I know Dems idolized Robert Byrd in the Senate, including the worship and praise POTUS heaped on him when he passed.

Its obvious Rs voting Donalds just brings those good ol Dem days back. Of course, we all know Cori Bush is a renegade for the Dems so they probably would support white supremacists Donalds.
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5:13p, 1/4/23
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 5:14p, 1/4/23
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Ellis Wyatt said:
GarryowenAg said:
Adjourning until 8pm. Guess they want to have a meeting to hash things out. Gonna be a late night!
You can be certain this is so McCarthy and the swamp critters can hammer out a deal with democrats.
If you can't work across your own internal aisle, then no way you can be fair to your constituency that put you there when you are supposed to actively legislate. I guess it's good these rats really don't do much anyway.

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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 5:14p, 1/4/23
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