Trump started a movement that is now out of his control. That old guard has got to go.
— Vic DeGrammont (@votedegrammont) January 4, 2023
Do you really want to emphasize how great he is as a deal maker the way he repeatedly ends up destroying what he is trying to achieve by his crazy deals?10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
Trump is a deal maker. It pains him to see actual politics take place.
AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
He's said nothing which is exactly what he should be saying.AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
eric76 said:Do you really want to emphasize how great he is as a deal maker the way he repeatedly ends up destroying what he is trying to achieve by his crazy deals?10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
Trump is a deal maker. It pains him to see actual politics take place.
Take the USFL for example.
AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
The same GOP establishment that's always happy to compromise on budgets and bills with the Democrats is unwilling to budge an inch on McCarthy.
— Tony Kinnett (@TheTonus) January 4, 2023
10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
Imagine thinking that the democratic process of choosing a speaker is somehow bad for democracy. When our representatives are free to disagree—when consensus is hard-earned rather than commanded—*that’s* when representative government is meaningful and worthy of admiration.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) January 5, 2023
10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I mean… pic.twitter.com/0VunBbZvS2
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) January 4, 2023
Congress can't pass any spending bills until the next Speaker of the House is elected. pic.twitter.com/p1abqAmsQ7
— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) January 4, 2023
10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
It is my understanding the 20 R's see the holdout as their one chance to exert leverage to establish an operating framework for this session to steer the agenda in a few key specific areas (term limits, Church Committee-style investigations, reign in spending, etc.) and a mechanism for accountability. If they fold, the opportunity has passed and we go right back to the status quo.MemphisAg1 said:McCarthy only needs 5 liberal/moderate R's to cross over and vote with all Dems to give him the speakership in exchange for a more moderate House.flashplayer said:
If McCarthy so much as whispers about a deal with dems to gain the speakership I'd wager large money that at least 50 GOP will defect away from him. At that point his political career is over short of switching parties.
I don't want that, but that's the reality.
My point is if the 20 R's think they have all the leverage, they're mistaken.
Hopefully cooler heads prevail and we get a conservative majority in the House.
No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
Oh! You want acting like an adult? What does that MEAN? What are you trying to say that is hidden behind euphemism?
He is saying the right things? Get the hell out of here with that! A lot of predators say the right things before they take grannies life savings. Are you saying he is a con artist? That he says all the right things before you let him into bed?
No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
Oh! You want acting like an adult? What does that MEAN? What are you trying to say that is hidden behind euphemism?
He is saying the right things? Get the hell out of here with that! A lot of predators say the right things before they take grannies life savings. Are you saying he is a con artist? That he says all the right things before you let him into bed?
He's Trump without the baggage and immature tweets. Simple.
And no, i don't believe he's a con artist. He hasn't shown anything to make me believe that.
As for the right things, he focuses on his job, showing he can get things done, while not ruling out running in '24.
Worth a listen indeed.sanangelo said:
Apparently Chip Roy is leading the revolt to get rules reverted back to the way the house worked prior to 2016z Ted Cruz gives a concise rundown on his podcast, The Verdict.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/verdict-with-ted-cruz/id1495601614
10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
Oh! You want acting like an adult? What does that MEAN? What are you trying to say that is hidden behind euphemism?
He is saying the right things? Get the hell out of here with that! A lot of predators say the right things before they take grannies life savings. Are you saying he is a con artist? That he says all the right things before you let him into bed?
He's Trump without the baggage and immature tweets. Simple.
And no, i don't believe he's a con artist. He hasn't shown anything to make me believe that.
As for the right things, he focuses on his job, showing he can get things done, while not ruling out running in '24.
Many people say "acting like an adult" including yourself. What does that mean?
Imagine that there are doofuses who actually wanted this guy to be president.lb3 said:lb3 said:
Remember who the establishment wanted for president in 2016?
First it was Jeb Bush and when he flamed out they got behind John Kasich. They don't know their base.A block of House Republicans should get together with Democrats to pick a speaker to run a coalition government, which will moderate the House and marginalize the extremists.
— John Kasich (@JohnKasich) January 3, 2023
John Kasich is Mitt Romney 2.0 which is really John McCain 3.0Ellis Wyatt said:Imagine that there are doofuses who actually wanted this guy to be president.lb3 said:lb3 said:
Remember who the establishment wanted for president in 2016?
First it was Jeb Bush and when he flamed out they got behind John Kasich. They don't know their base.A block of House Republicans should get together with Democrats to pick a speaker to run a coalition government, which will moderate the House and marginalize the extremists.
— John Kasich (@JohnKasich) January 3, 2023
No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
Oh! You want acting like an adult? What does that MEAN? What are you trying to say that is hidden behind euphemism?
He is saying the right things? Get the hell out of here with that! A lot of predators say the right things before they take grannies life savings. Are you saying he is a con artist? That he says all the right things before you let him into bed?
He's Trump without the baggage and immature tweets. Simple.
And no, i don't believe he's a con artist. He hasn't shown anything to make me believe that.
As for the right things, he focuses on his job, showing he can get things done, while not ruling out running in '24.
Many people say "acting like an adult" including yourself. What does that mean?
Unfortunately, acting like an adult nowadays is actually something subjective to some people. No, I am not saying you are one of them.
That being said, those that say "acting like an adult", and I'm including folks on the right, can see the difference in how Desantis carries himself compared to Trump and see that as acting like an adult. Not acting like one is what put enough conservatives off of Trump that they voted against him in the last election, and acting like one is what's bringing those same people, and more on the right, to Desantis' side.
If someone can't see the differences in how each acts then I don't know what can be said to help them see.
10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:No Spin Ag said:10thYrSr said:AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
I think he was asking where Desantis has weighed in. He hasn't.
And he won't. He's a very well seasoned, shrewd, and disciplined politician who will wait until all is said and done to give any kind of response.
He's got '24 in his sights and right now he's the front runner with a margin that just keeps getting bigger by the day. He's got nothing to gain by jumping into this mess.
He hasn't even declared, and you are jumping on his jock. Who is your first choice under those who HAVE declared their intent?
I don't care who's declared, I don't like any of them, left or right.
Desantis is the only one who's not only acted like an adult while governor, but more importantly, has led by common sense.
I seriously doubt that he won't run, and by what history has shown, Desantis is saying and not saying all the right things that have precluded someone running for the White House.
Oh! You want acting like an adult? What does that MEAN? What are you trying to say that is hidden behind euphemism?
He is saying the right things? Get the hell out of here with that! A lot of predators say the right things before they take grannies life savings. Are you saying he is a con artist? That he says all the right things before you let him into bed?
He's Trump without the baggage and immature tweets. Simple.
And no, i don't believe he's a con artist. He hasn't shown anything to make me believe that.
As for the right things, he focuses on his job, showing he can get things done, while not ruling out running in '24.
Many people say "acting like an adult" including yourself. What does that mean?
Unfortunately, acting like an adult nowadays is actually something subjective to some people. No, I am not saying you are one of them.
That being said, those that say "acting like an adult", and I'm including folks on the right, can see the difference in how Desantis carries himself compared to Trump and see that as acting like an adult. Not acting like one is what put enough conservatives off of Trump that they voted against him in the last election, and acting like one is what's bringing those same people, and more on the right, to Desantis' side.
If someone can't see the differences in how each acts then I don't know what can be said to help them see.
I understand what you have said. But in all of that you still haven't stated what "acting like an adult" is. I want to understand, and if you want to tell me "it's just a colloquialism" I'll understand.
45-70Ag said:
I don't like any politician really, they're all self serving and liars.
Never go full r-tard.AggieKeith15 said:AGHouston11 said:AggieKeith15 said:
Last straw for me -- I'm done with Trump. Give me DeSantis in 2024.
What has Desantis said about any of this ?
Supporting McCarthy- the 20?
DeSantis was one of the founders of the freedom Caucus. That stands for a lot more than (D) Trump's recent comments about abortion and now his siding with the Uniparty to make McCarthy speaker.
In 2024, I won't vote for Trump. I'd rather Dems win if he's on the ballot.
Congress has spent more time picking a House Speaker than they did reading that $1.7 Trillion Bill they just passed
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) January 4, 2023
May have to ring up Rep Weber myself.Swan Song said:
Discovered my rep Weber voted McCarthy. I called and let a message saying my household doesn't support that vote.
