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In reply to WLW12SPJ • 9:09p, 6/13/22
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WLW12SPJ said:
Almost stepped on a coral snake (1' -1.5' I'm guessing...it was doubled over) yesterday 3 times. It was laying by the side of the house in a flower bed when getting a hose to water. About a foot from my foot. I was in flip flops...not good I would think. Saw it finally when I went to turn.water on. Tried to take pic, but I guess after changing my shorts I didn't hit the pic button good enough...sorry.

Went to get a hoe, but it had vanished in the flower bed. Now we have a coral snake/s on the loose in our flower beds.

Question is, IF I see it again do I kill it, or try to take it somewhere else by capturing it? It is/was a pretty snake, but I know potentially deadly if you mess with it too much.

I darn sure got lucky I'm guessing. I know they are supposed to be "docile" as long as you don't mess with them. Just don't want one in the flower beds.

I know TexAgs knows stuff as always.
TIA

I don't know how accurate it is, but I've been told that for a coral snake to envenomate you, it needs to grab a fold of skin and chew on it.

When I lived in the Houston area, one friend who grew up in Friendswood told me that a number of high school kids will catch small coral snakes and keep them with pets and make very sure to never tell their parents about their new pet.
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In reply to eric76 • 9:44p, 6/13/22
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eric76 said:
WLW12SPJ said:
Almost stepped on a coral snake (1' -1.5' I'm guessing...it was doubled over) yesterday 3 times. It was laying by the side of the house in a flower bed when getting a hose to water. About a foot from my foot. I was in flip flops...not good I would think. Saw it finally when I went to turn.water on. Tried to take pic, but I guess after changing my shorts I didn't hit the pic button good enough...sorry.

Went to get a hoe, but it had vanished in the flower bed. Now we have a coral snake/s on the loose in our flower beds.

Question is, IF I see it again do I kill it, or try to take it somewhere else by capturing it? It is/was a pretty snake, but I know potentially deadly if you mess with it too much.

I darn sure got lucky I'm guessing. I know they are supposed to be "docile" as long as you don't mess with them. Just don't want one in the flower beds.

I know TexAgs knows stuff as always.
TIA

I don't know how accurate it is, but I've been told that for a coral snake to envenomate you, it needs to grab a fold of skin and chew on it.

When I lived in the Houston area, one friend who grew up in Friendswood told me that a number of high school kids will catch small coral snakes and keep them with pets and make very sure to never tell their parents about their new pet.
They can envenomate you somewhat easier than that, but they don't have hollow fangs to inject it like the other three of the big 4. Unless it has changed recently, no human has ever died from a bite from a Texas Coral Snake.
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In reply to eric76 • 9:45p, 6/13/22
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eric76 said:
WLW12SPJ said:
Almost stepped on a coral snake (1' -1.5' I'm guessing...it was doubled over) yesterday 3 times. It was laying by the side of the house in a flower bed when getting a hose to water. About a foot from my foot. I was in flip flops...not good I would think. Saw it finally when I went to turn.water on. Tried to take pic, but I guess after changing my shorts I didn't hit the pic button good enough...sorry.

Went to get a hoe, but it had vanished in the flower bed. Now we have a coral snake/s on the loose in our flower beds.

Question is, IF I see it again do I kill it, or try to take it somewhere else by capturing it? It is/was a pretty snake, but I know potentially deadly if you mess with it too much.

I darn sure got lucky I'm guessing. I know they are supposed to be "docile" as long as you don't mess with them. Just don't want one in the flower beds.

I know TexAgs knows stuff as always.
TIA

I don't know how accurate it is, but I've been told that for a coral snake to envenomate you, it needs to grab a fold of skin and chew on it.

When I lived in the Houston area, one friend who grew up in Friendswood told me that a number of high school kids will catch small coral snakes and keep them with pets and make very sure to never tell their parents about their new pet.
We never caught them and kept them as pets when I was growing up there, but they were not uncommon to find and harass along Cowart's Creek.
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In reply to txags92 • 9:55p, 6/13/22
txags92 said:
eric76 said:
WLW12SPJ said:
Almost stepped on a coral snake (1' -1.5' I'm guessing...it was doubled over) yesterday 3 times. It was laying by the side of the house in a flower bed when getting a hose to water. About a foot from my foot. I was in flip flops...not good I would think. Saw it finally when I went to turn.water on. Tried to take pic, but I guess after changing my shorts I didn't hit the pic button good enough...sorry.

Went to get a hoe, but it had vanished in the flower bed. Now we have a coral snake/s on the loose in our flower beds.

Question is, IF I see it again do I kill it, or try to take it somewhere else by capturing it? It is/was a pretty snake, but I know potentially deadly if you mess with it too much.

I darn sure got lucky I'm guessing. I know they are supposed to be "docile" as long as you don't mess with them. Just don't want one in the flower beds.

I know TexAgs knows stuff as always.
TIA

I don't know how accurate it is, but I've been told that for a coral snake to envenomate you, it needs to grab a fold of skin and chew on it.

When I lived in the Houston area, one friend who grew up in Friendswood told me that a number of high school kids will catch small coral snakes and keep them with pets and make very sure to never tell their parents about their new pet.
They can envenomate you somewhat easier than that, but they don't have hollow fangs to inject it like the other three of the big 4. Unless it has changed recently, no human has ever died from a bite from a Texas Coral Snake.


They make you miserable and you feel like you are on fire, as described by my cousin's husband (at the time) who was bitten between the thumb and forefinger.
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7:48a, 6/14/22
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Wife finally saw a copperhead on our place this morning. I was starting to think this drought had run them off.
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7:40p, 6/16/22
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The boy pounces on any snake he finds once I give him the ok
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9:48p, 6/19/22
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Cool. This drought has sent them to low ground near the creeks I think. Haven't seen one in weeks.
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11:30a, 6/20/22
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8 month old GSD found this one in the back, got him inside before he could "play" with it. Probably about 3 feet long.
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In reply to AtlAg05 • 11:38a, 6/20/22
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8 month old GSD found this one in the back, got him inside before he could "play" with it. Probably about 3 feet long.


What kind is it?
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In reply to AtlAg05 • 11:38a, 6/20/22
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Awesome snake... Location?
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 11:40a, 6/20/22
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It is a common kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula) Probably of the Eastern Kingsnake subspecies.
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11:45a, 6/20/22
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1:18p, 6/20/22
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Outside Atlanta, GA.
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3:55p, 6/20/22
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This is not a rat snake even though it was higher than my hat. We were walking the dogs and I was on the phone and this white bird flew right at me. Sort of shocked until he landed in the cedar. It was like he wanted to be around people but would not come close enough to get him to light on me. Hope he finds a fellow escapee for company.
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In reply to Tony Franklins Other Shoe • 7:35p, 6/20/22
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In reply to agcrock2005 • 8:07p, 6/20/22
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A feral budgerigar. More commonly called parakeets in the U.S. It is definitely not the wild type coloration either. That color was bred in.
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10:32p, 6/20/22
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Got closer than I should have on a hike in La Fortuna this weekend. One of world's fastest strikers

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In reply to Bullpen Chias • 10:48p, 6/20/22
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Awesome, beautiful eyelash viper. Too close for comfort though indeed!
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In reply to Badace52 • 8:31a, 6/21/22
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Badace52 said:
A feral budgerigar. More commonly called parakeets in the U.S. It is definitely not the wild type coloration either. That color was bred in.
Funny in that my son lost two of the green variety back in the day. We use to hang the cage up outside on some nice days and our babysitter did that on a windy day. Came out later to find the cage on the ground and bird (Zebra) was gone. Son took it well but my M-I-L bought another one and the second incident the bottom of the cage fell off, apparently when it was cleaned, the clasps weren't put on well enough and Zebra II was free to roam.

We were out of the parakeet ownership after that one.
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In reply to Badace52 • 8:58a, 6/21/22
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Badace52 said:
A feral budgerigar. More commonly called parakeets in the U.S. It is definitely not the wild type coloration either. That color was bred in.
Growing up in Katy I remember there being quite the flock of budgies in Cullen Park. Seemed to be the place to release them before going off to college.
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9:36a, 6/21/22
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Dog got bit by a copperhead this morning. I quickly disposed of it with a shovel. Waiting to confirm if it's a dry bite or not. This is the same dog that got bit last August by a copperhead and he swelled up real bad had to take him to the ER then for a $1200 bill.

10 minutes after bite

1 hour after the bite and 2 Benadryl



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In reply to WestTexAg12 • 9:45a, 6/21/22
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Not a vet but zero swelling after this long would probably indicate a dry bite. Hopefully that's the case!
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9:59a, 6/21/22
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1 1/2 hours after the bite with 50mg Benadryl (60 lb dog).
Left aide is swelling a little bit more now. It's still not as bad as last year, but I may take him in just in case. It was an adolescent copperhead with a green tail, so it shouldn't have been that much venom.


Last year


https://i.imgur.com/m1pOhhK.mp4
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10:33a, 6/21/22
Poor pup.

Also, for future reference. Nationwide pet insurance covers snake bites. I know this will probably cause a debate, but so far I have come out ahead having my GSP covered.
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In reply to TacosaurusRex • 10:47a, 6/21/22
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TacosaurusRex said:
Poor pup.

Also, for future reference. Nationwide pet insurance covers snake bites. I know this will probably cause a debate, but so far I have come out ahead having my GSP covered.


I may have to start doing this. So far, in his 2.5 year life span, I've had
(2) copperhead bites
(2) times running through barbed wire chasing jackrabbits while hunting

I'm sure he will do something else
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11:23a, 6/21/22
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Maybe I just grew up in a poor house but we never took snake bit dogs to the vet. We were in East Texas so no rattler issues but when a dog got bit, they hung out swollen and lethargic for a couple of days but it wore off and they moved on. I can think of 3 that we had but at one time or another.

Rattlesnake bites I can totally see dealing with differently.
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In reply to WestTexAg12 • 11:34a, 6/21/22
WestTexAg12 said:
TacosaurusRex said:
Poor pup.

Also, for future reference. Nationwide pet insurance covers snake bites. I know this will probably cause a debate, but so far I have come out ahead having my GSP covered.


I may have to start doing this. So far, in his 2.5 year life span, I've had
(2) copperhead bites
(2) times running through barbed wire chasing jackrabbits while hunting

I'm sure he will do something else


Yep. You have to love GSP's. Mine did the same with the barbed wire. I carry the 3M liquid bandage in all my trucks now, it does great at stopping the bleeding until you can get them into town.
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In reply to Stive • 11:37a, 6/21/22
Stive said:
Maybe I just grew up in a poor house but we never took snake bit dogs to the vet. We were in East Texas so no rattler issues but when a dog got bit, they hung out swollen and lethargic for a couple of days but it wore off and they moved on. I can think of 3 that we had but at one time or another.

Rattlesnake bites I can totally see dealing with differently.


Just all depends on the dog. We have had some where it was benadryl and rest, then some like this.

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In reply to Stive • 11:42a, 6/21/22
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Stive said:
Maybe I just grew up in a poor house but we never took snake bit dogs to the vet. We were in East Texas so no rattler issues but when a dog got bit, they hung out swollen and lethargic for a couple of days but it wore off and they moved on. I can think of 3 that we had but at one time or another.

Rattlesnake bites I can totally see dealing with differently.


I sat around for 2 hours on the first snakebite thinking the same thing. His face swelled up real bad though and my wife begged me to take him in. After the bloodwork, I'm glad I did. The vet said if his blood smear was at 50% or lower, he recommends no antivenin. At 70%, he starts to really recommend it. Ronin was at 93% on the blood smear that night.

I like to be on the safe side since I think my wife loves this dog more than me sometimes.
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In reply to TacosaurusRex • 11:45a, 6/21/22
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TacosaurusRex said:
Stive said:
Maybe I just grew up in a poor house but we never took snake bit dogs to the vet. We were in East Texas so no rattler issues but when a dog got bit, they hung out swollen and lethargic for a couple of days but it wore off and they moved on. I can think of 3 that we had but at one time or another.

Rattlesnake bites I can totally see dealing with differently.


Just all depends on the dog. We have had some where it was benadryl and rest, then some like this.


Was that copperhead or rattler?
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In reply to WestTexAg12 • 11:59a, 6/21/22
Rattler got her. Sticking her nose where it didn't belong will do that.
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In reply to WestTexAg12 • 12:06p, 6/21/22
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Gulf Coast GSP club holds desnaking classes each year, typically right before bird season. Worth the $50 and 30 minutes. The Houston one is at Westside Airport. Pointers are naturally just curious.
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In reply to HoldMyBeer • 12:41p, 6/21/22
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HoldMyBeer said:
Gulf Coast GSP club holds desnaking classes each year, typically right before bird season. Worth the $50 and 30 minutes. The Houston one is at Westside Airport. Pointers are naturally just curious.

He may naturally desnake himself after a couple more bites! He sure didn't like this last one. He was really jumpy and pissed when I approached him right after he was bit.
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In reply to WestTexAg12 • 12:46p, 6/21/22
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Pain is a serious motivation. They use an e collar for desnaking, and give them a solid jolt. After the second one, the dog is headed the opposite direction from the snake.
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1:08p, 6/21/22
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A friend took these at Pedernales Falls SP.

Ribbon?
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